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Old 05-18-2008, 11:43 AM   #211
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Old 05-18-2008, 12:56 PM   #212
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You two wouldn't understand unless you driven a few years on the Nordschleife and had a few hundred laps under your belt.
You don't come to the ring on a public day to test , you come to show the world what you got. Evidently the car or the driver wasn't ready.
Don't get me wrong here I would like to see the new Camaro cut a good BTG time. I would hope it could surpass my camaros time of 8m 30 secs BTG. I am still hoping it will .
Here is a shot from a few years back of my camaro on the ring driving to its 8:30BTG Time.
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Old 05-18-2008, 01:16 PM   #213
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You two wouldn't understand unless you driven a few years on the Nordschleife and had a few hundred laps under your belt.
You don't come to the ring on a public day to test , you come to show the world what you got. Evidently the car or the driver wasn't ready.
Don't get me wrong here I would like to see the new Camaro cut a good BTG time. I would hope it could surpass my camaros time of 8m 30 secs BTG. I am still hoping it will .
Here is a shot from a few years back of my camaro on the ring driving to its 8:30BTG Time.
And your point would be?? Perhaps you don't understand that suspension tuning is a process of trying parts, seeing how they perform, trying other parts, go out and see how they do, try different settings, etc. The ZR1 Vette was there for quite a bit undergoing suspension tuning prior to running lap times that they wanted to release publicly. You don't just show up and hope you got it right, it is a process to ensure that you do get it right.
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Old 05-18-2008, 01:51 PM   #214
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...Evidently the car or the driver wasn't ready.
Maybe you're right and the car wasn't ready.... especially considering that the start of regular production isn't until nine months from today. It looked like it was doing pretty well to me but luckily we still have some time to get the engine and suspension tuned right while the dies are being made and the suppliers are making the molds for the parts etc.
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Maybe you're right and the car wasn't ready.... especially considering that the start of regular production isn't until nine months from today. It looked like it was doing pretty well to me but luckily we still have some time to get the engine and suspension tuned right while the dies are being made and the suppliers are making the molds for the parts etc.
That and I'm sure that engineers and test drivers don't go all out first time they take a prototype of a car to a track like the ring, regardless of if the car is fully tuned or not.
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Old 05-18-2008, 11:41 PM   #216
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What I am getting at is, you test on a closed track and get it right, Not on an open track with car makers and privateers out there that use you as a moving chicane. If you come to Nordschleife with a nonsorted car or driver that doessn't know the track , you can expect that type of performance.
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Old 05-19-2008, 08:53 AM   #217
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What I am getting at is, you test on a closed track and get it right, Not on an open track with car makers and privateers out there that use you as a moving chicane. If you come to Nordschleife with a nonsorted car or driver that doessn't know the track , you can expect that type of performance.
You do. I would. Everyone (mostly) on here would.

But do Manufacturers? They take it out, see how it feels, and tune it. Repeat. Notice how they moved over to let that porche pass? They're not trying to time themselves. They're tuning.

You mentioned the track would eat you alive...I agree - what other reason would they want to do some suspention tuning there?
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Old 05-19-2008, 11:10 AM   #218
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i think the driver in the car knows the track. gm would not put a novice out there with no experience to test one of the most anticipated vehicle in the world. mater of fact i think they had a legend in the car at that time. im sure when it is done they will come back to get ur dun.
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What I am getting at is, you test on a closed track and get it right, Not on an open track with car makers and privateers out there that use you as a moving chicane. If you come to Nordschleife with a nonsorted car or driver that doessn't know the track , you can expect that type of performance.
You're telling professional tuners/race car drivers how to tune. What did you say your last name was Roy?
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im totally getting this car , well my daddy is getting it for me ,and were already on the waiting list ,im not an expert on it like alot pf people here, but i do know some things im sooooo excited for it to come out
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Old 06-01-2008, 09:26 PM   #221
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im totally getting this car , well my daddy is getting it for me ,and were already on the waiting list ,im not an expert on it like alot pf people here, but i do know some things im sooooo excited for it to come out
Welcome! As far as not being an expert, last year at this time I wasn't an expert either. I joined up and got up to speed on the facts (took a week or two) then I learned all the speculation, guesses, and wishlists. Now I'm an expert.
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Old 06-04-2008, 08:03 PM   #222
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This video is both sweet and glorious. This car will own. I'd like to see how an LS3 camaro with a full exhaust and intake upgrade and ECU tune would stack up against a 911 GT3 or turbo in a highway run from 50 to 150.
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Old 06-05-2008, 12:37 AM   #223
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I just want to know all the times for all the trims around the track! THAT'S what I want to know!
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Old 06-05-2008, 11:11 AM   #224
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This video is both sweet and glorious. This car will own. I'd like to see how an LS3 camaro with a full exhaust and intake upgrade and ECU tune would stack up against a 911 GT3 or turbo in a highway run from 50 to 150.
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That my friend would be a bridge way to far . Just think of the GT3 as a Z06 made by Porsche. Every nut and bolt on that car methodically and purpose built.
On the other hand you throw enough money at it , it can be done.
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