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VOGGS-LS3-1LE · 01-07-2014, 09:06 AM

^ditto

VOGGS-LS3-1LE · 01-07-2014, 09:06 AM

Good info SS1LETX...

lbls1 · 01-07-2014, 09:42 AM

Can stress cracks happen just from sitting?

1bad1le · 01-07-2014, 10:56 AM

Driving mine tomorrow morning. No other choice. Supposed to be aroung 8 degrees and warming to 30.

toehead93 · 01-07-2014, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Firefighter

Mine are fine...

I know I'm a dick... lol

LOL, I was coming here to say the same thing. I just ran my first autoX in the 1LE Sunday, very fun! Good luck for the rest of you...hopefully warmer days aren't too far away.

ss1letx · 01-07-2014, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by lbls1

Can stress cracks happen just from sitting?

No not normally. Stress cracks normally happen do to long run times under inflated or over loading the tire, as in having a tire not rated for the load of the car on the vehicle. The other problem could be found in the manufacturing of the tire or just the way the tire was designed. Now the reason Goodyear tells use not to run our tires in cold weather is because as the temp drops the rubber they used to make them become less flexible and thus makes the sidewalls very stiff. This is what leads to the problem we would probably see on the 1LE or ZL1.

Schluney · 01-07-2014, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ss1letx

Just as a heads up if up can go to a Discount Tire they will warranty them there. Goodyear should replace them though DTC 100%. I bet you could get the dealer to cover the mount and bal for you also then get the warranty on them from DTC. Just saying it is a good fall back plan it dealer gives you a hard time about replacing them. I know goodyear tires and I put warranty on them as soon as i got the car to cover this kind of problem or even road hazard 100% though DTC. Also with the finish of the wheel make sure they have someone that knows what they are doing to not jack up the wheel.

Thanks for the heads up! I'll post what my dealer says when I get there... If not I know a guy at discount tire so I'll be heading there! Also I should point out my car was out doors at the rail yard dec 19th-jan4th and on a trailer for 5 days with close to a dozen days below 0 so I believe that's when the real damage was done

lbls1 · 01-07-2014, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ss1letx

No not normally. Stress cracks normally happen do to long run times under inflated or over loading the tire, as in having a tire not rated for the load of the car on the vehicle. The other problem could be found in the manufacturing of the tire or just the way the tire was designed. Now the reason Goodyear tells use not to run our tires in cold weather is because as the temp drops the rubber they used to make them become less flexible and thus makes the sidewalls very stiff. This is what leads to the problem we would probably see on the 1LE or ZL1.

Good to know, thanks. My car is sitting in the garage as we speak (waiting for spring, unfortunately). I will make an effort to closely monitor the tire pressure on my ZL1.

Dropspeed · 01-07-2014, 01:51 PM

No way tires don't crack, there are no issues with these tires, that is ridiculous!!!

At least those were the remarks (OK, maybe the above is exaggerated) I received when I posted that I purchased different wheels and tires for when my car was in storage.... It is -8 outside.....I am happy with my purchase

Good info ss1LEtx,

-Matt

Smartguy · 01-07-2014, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Dropspeed

No way tires don't crack, there are no issues with these tires, that is ridiculous!!!

At least those were the remarks (OK, maybe the above is exaggerated) I received when I posted that I purchased different wheels and tires for when my car was in storage.... It is -8 outside.....I am happy with my purchase

Good info ss1LEtx,

-Matt

They absolutely crack, but this forum does seem to create the persona it is a common thing. Eh crack, but it's still fairly uncommon.

Smartguy · 01-07-2014, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by lbls1

Can stress cracks happen just from sitting?

Yes, they can and have. They can happen under any circumstances

Age
Hard use
Temps

Tires crack

Extreme cold wether increases chances of cracking. Driving in the same weather increases the chances more.

lbls1 · 01-07-2014, 06:14 PM

^Bummer...just as my hopes were getting high!!

Anthony @ LG Motorsports · 01-07-2014, 06:34 PM

We see this same issue with a lot of our race tires during the winter. If we keep a few sets to have for testing we have to make sure they stay inside, preferably in a dark spot out of the sunlight and never below 50 degrees.

They don't have to be on the car, they don't even have to be on a wheel to crack either....so just something to be careful of.

Now at the same time, I don't know how this effects the GoodYears but on our slicks we could still practice on them and they were typically fine. Never would introduce that tire on the car for qualifying or a race..but practice they were always fine. I would suggest keeping the tire if it is still under warranty but if you have to go someplace and that is your only choice it should be fine.

Smartguy · 01-07-2014, 06:38 PM

All summer tires have similiar issues. Drives me nuts this gets put in the gm/Goodyear bucket of problems.

Bad traction and cracking in bad weather is summer tire issue. If theses summer tires worked well in winter they would be summer tires, they'd be all season!

A summer jacket isn't going to keep you warm in the winter just like a summer tire isn't going to give you good performance in the winter

01-07-2014, 09:06 AM	#15
VOGGS-LS3-1LE Angry by Nature Drives: 13' Camaro 1SS/RS/1LE/NPP 1 of 76 Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 343	^ditto __________________ 2013 CHEVROLET CAMARO 1SS/RS/1LE/NPP 1 OF 76 Roto Fab CAI 1LE BADGES

01-07-2014, 09:06 AM	#16
VOGGS-LS3-1LE Angry by Nature Drives: 13' Camaro 1SS/RS/1LE/NPP 1 of 76 Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 343	Good info SS1LETX... __________________ 2013 CHEVROLET CAMARO 1SS/RS/1LE/NPP 1 OF 76 Roto Fab CAI 1LE BADGES

01-07-2014, 09:42 AM	#17
lbls1 Drives: 2002 Camaro SS SOM; 2015 Malibu LTZ Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 4,071	Can stress cracks happen just from sitting? __________________ '02 CAMARO SS SOM; 5.7L LS1/FLS6B '08 TBSS AWD Black Granite Metallic '15 Malibu LTZ 2LZ Turbo *'14 CAMARO ZL1 Blue Ray Metallic* '25 Silverado 1500 High Country 6.2L

01-07-2014, 01:51 PM	#23
Dropspeed 2013 Camaro SS1LECTSVZ28 Drives: 2013 AGM 1SS/1LE Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Suburbs of Detroit, MI Posts: 2,440	No way tires don't crack, there are no issues with these tires, that is ridiculous!!! At least those were the remarks (OK, maybe the above is exaggerated) I received when I posted that I purchased different wheels and tires for when my car was in storage.... It is -8 outside.....I am happy with my purchase Good info ss1LEtx, -Matt __________________ My 1LE Build/Journal : http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=351990

01-07-2014, 06:14 PM	#26
lbls1 Drives: 2002 Camaro SS SOM; 2015 Malibu LTZ Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 4,071	^Bummer...just as my hopes were getting high!! __________________ '02 CAMARO SS SOM; 5.7L LS1/FLS6B '08 TBSS AWD Black Granite Metallic '15 Malibu LTZ 2LZ Turbo *'14 CAMARO ZL1 Blue Ray Metallic* '25 Silverado 1500 High Country 6.2L

01-07-2014, 10:56 AM	#18
1bad1le Drives: 2013 Camaro 1LE Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Lebanon, OH Posts: 127	Driving mine tomorrow morning. No other choice. Supposed to be aroung 8 degrees and warming to 30.

01-07-2014, 06:34 PM	#27
Anthony @ LG Motorsports Drives: 1994 1LE / 2006 Z51 Corvette Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Plano, TX Posts: 2,829	We see this same issue with a lot of our race tires during the winter. If we keep a few sets to have for testing we have to make sure they stay inside, preferably in a dark spot out of the sunlight and never below 50 degrees. They don't have to be on the car, they don't even have to be on a wheel to crack either....so just something to be careful of. Now at the same time, I don't know how this effects the GoodYears but on our slicks we could still practice on them and they were typically fine. Never would introduce that tire on the car for qualifying or a race..but practice they were always fine. I would suggest keeping the tire if it is still under warranty but if you have to go someplace and that is your only choice it should be fine.

01-07-2014, 06:38 PM	#28
Smartguy Drives: Chevy Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Moon Posts: 14	All summer tires have similiar issues. Drives me nuts this gets put in the gm/Goodyear bucket of problems. Bad traction and cracking in bad weather is summer tire issue. If theses summer tires worked well in winter they would be summer tires, they'd be all season! A summer jacket isn't going to keep you warm in the winter just like a summer tire isn't going to give you good performance in the winter