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Nor Cal ZL1 · 05-23-2014, 09:24 PM

Hill assist work great for low speed things like pulling into the garage on a sloped driveway. It is in traffic where it acts strange, you need to take off slow. If you try to take off quickly you either smoke the tires when it releases, or stall if your not in the throttle enough. I just wait a second to feel the release. It would be better if it was something you could turn on manually.

notmidlife · 05-23-2014, 10:40 PM

I have a 2014 ls and it seems to work fine, even kind of like it. My car is only two weeks old and I have not quite found the feel for where the back end is with regard to how close people are to me on a hill. No stall issues, and disengages pretty quick. Would like to have manual control of it.

SimpleGreen · 05-24-2014, 12:46 AM

I don't care for it at all. Only thing it has done for me is let me stall the car out because I'm not expecting the brakes to be locked up. I'll probably change the yaw sensor one day to get rid of it.

Better yet, it should have been selectable in the DIC or MyLink menu.

Squillo · 05-24-2014, 01:02 AM

I love the hill start assist. I think that a lot of people who hate it and are complaining about it not letting go are pressing their brakes too hard. The HSA only holds the brakes as hard as you do.

If you only press hard enough to keep your car still and not stand on the brakes for no reason it lets go as soon as you start forward motion.

That being said I also hated it at first because I've driven manual transmissions my whole life. I've never owned a car with an automatic. The HSA really threw off my equilibrium (like others have said, I was used to rolling back a bit at first) and I stalled the car almost every night going up my hill when I got caught at the red light.

But once I got used to it, and figured out not to overdo it on brake pedal pressure I love it. I just take off as if I were on flat ground and it works great.

*Milk 1027* · 05-24-2014, 01:16 AM

I hate it. I've never needed it before, I don't need it now. There's one particular hill that I drive frequently. I have to wait until it disengages to actualy move. Otherwise, like someone else said I do a burnout, or stall out.

sonnydurden · 05-24-2014, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisBlair

Ah, good. So what is HSA needed for? I used my manual trans Pontiac while living on a steep hill in Boston for four years, parallel park each afternoon, had to leave the spot each morning. Never hit anyone. Sounds like a nice option if you're uncomfortable using the e-brake to help but it seems like something that should be an option to me.

I have been driving manuals for over 20+ years.. Never had any problems with steep hills or haven't had to use a e-brake before.. The Hill Assist sometimes activates when on a hill.. It holds the car in place without rolling back while you give it gas and come off the clutch... IMO it slows you down.. I think it's a great tool for beginners, not experienced drivers... Sounds like you are an experienced driver, so you may not like it..

pontiac_4_ever · 05-24-2014, 06:35 PM

It takes a little getting used to but I like the hill assist!

fgg60 · 05-24-2014, 07:34 PM

It takes 30 minutes to replace the sensor with one from an automatic. Problem solved, for good!! Did mine about a year ago and have never looked back... no more HSA!!! same thing with the skip shift, 15 minutes, simple hand tools!

Philar299 · 05-24-2014, 07:44 PM

y'all scared me with the hill assist so i went auto :P

sonnydurden · 05-24-2014, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by fgg60

It takes 30 minutes to replace the sensor with one from an automatic. Problem solved, for good!! Did mine about a year ago and have never looked back... no more HSA!!! same thing with the skip shift, 15 minutes, simple hand tools!

Good Stuff..

My 5th · 05-24-2014, 07:59 PM

My '62 Studebaker Lark Daytona (a really fast car--honest) had what they called a Hill Holder clutch. Worked like a charm every time. It was probably a lot simpler design than this new one--it had to be--it was 1962! If you let up even a little on the clutch pedal, or touched the gas pedal it released.

Todd in Vancouver · 05-24-2014, 07:59 PM

Not sure what the big deal is as mine seems to work fine. Maybe the hard brake idea is correct because it seems to be OK for me and I've driven standards my whole life.

Baer383 · 05-24-2014, 08:08 PM

My hill assist held the car way too long so I just changed the sensor,I don't miss it at all.

RxRated · 05-24-2014, 08:10 PM

It is terrible. First 2 things to do to an M6 is replace the yaw sensor, and install a skip shift eliminator.

05-24-2014, 12:46 AM	#31
SimpleGreen Drives: 2015 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Southeast Louisiana Posts: 2,112	I don't care for it at all. Only thing it has done for me is let me stall the car out because I'm not expecting the brakes to be locked up. I'll probably change the yaw sensor one day to get rid of it. Better yet, it should have been selectable in the DIC or MyLink menu. __________________ 2015 Camaro 2SS/RS SIM 2016 Jeep Wrangler 2DR Willys Wheeler 1993 C1500 Single Cab Stepside 5.3L LS Swap

05-24-2014, 01:16 AM	#33
Milk 1027 Camaro➎ moderator Drives: '13 BLK 1LE Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: AZ Posts: 13,567 View My Garage	I hate it. I've never needed it before, I don't need it now. There's one particular hill that I drive frequently. I have to wait until it disengages to actualy move. Otherwise, like someone else said I do a burnout, or stall out. __________________

05-24-2014, 07:34 PM	#36
fgg60 Sweet Annie!! BRM Drives: '13 2SS/RS 1LE BRM NPP CF5 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Bristol, CT Posts: 354 View My Garage	It takes 30 minutes to replace the sensor with one from an automatic. Problem solved, for good!! Did mine about a year ago and have never looked back... no more HSA!!! same thing with the skip shift, 15 minutes, simple hand tools! __________________ FGG60 - (BRM 2SS 1LE) 1 of 70!!

05-24-2014, 07:44 PM	#37
Philar299 Drives: 2021 Forte GT Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 455	y'all scared me with the hill assist so i went auto :P __________________ If the whole world was blind, how many people would you impress? Previous cars: 2014 V6 Spring Edition 2018 WRX 2022 K5 2022 Stinger

05-24-2014, 07:59 PM	#39
My 5th Drives: 2010 2SS/RS M6 Black on Black Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Global Citizen Posts: 1,243	My '62 Studebaker Lark Daytona (a really fast car--honest) had what they called a Hill Holder clutch. Worked like a charm every time. It was probably a lot simpler design than this new one--it had to be--it was 1962! If you let up even a little on the clutch pedal, or touched the gas pedal it released. __________________ Meh

05-23-2014, 09:24 PM	#29
Nor Cal ZL1 Drives: 2013 ZL1 M6 Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 1,825	Hill assist work great for low speed things like pulling into the garage on a sloped driveway. It is in traffic where it acts strange, you need to take off slow. If you try to take off quickly you either smoke the tires when it releases, or stall if your not in the throttle enough. I just wait a second to feel the release. It would be better if it was something you could turn on manually.

05-23-2014, 10:40 PM	#30
notmidlife Drives: 2014 Camaro LS Join Date: May 2014 Location: toronto Posts: 97	I have a 2014 ls and it seems to work fine, even kind of like it. My car is only two weeks old and I have not quite found the feel for where the back end is with regard to how close people are to me on a hill. No stall issues, and disengages pretty quick. Would like to have manual control of it.

05-24-2014, 01:02 AM	#32
Squillo Drives: 2013 Camaro 2SS/RS BRM LS3 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Hawaii Posts: 1,172	I love the hill start assist. I think that a lot of people who hate it and are complaining about it not letting go are pressing their brakes too hard. The HSA only holds the brakes as hard as you do. If you only press hard enough to keep your car still and not stand on the brakes for no reason it lets go as soon as you start forward motion. That being said I also hated it at first because I've driven manual transmissions my whole life. I've never owned a car with an automatic. The HSA really threw off my equilibrium (like others have said, I was used to rolling back a bit at first) and I stalled the car almost every night going up my hill when I got caught at the red light. But once I got used to it, and figured out not to overdo it on brake pedal pressure I love it. I just take off as if I were on flat ground and it works great.

05-24-2014, 06:35 PM	#35
pontiac_4_ever GM F-Body Enthusaist Drives: 2013 ZL1 # 3542 - Blue Ray Metallic Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Central Iowa Posts: 21 View My Garage	It takes a little getting used to but I like the hill assist!

05-24-2014, 07:59 PM	#40
Todd in Vancouver Drives: 2014 ZL1 Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 1,538 View My Garage	Not sure what the big deal is as mine seems to work fine. Maybe the hard brake idea is correct because it seems to be OK for me and I've driven standards my whole life. __________________ Todd in Vancouver '14 ZL1 Camaro '67 Camaro SS Pro-tour in process How hard can it be... Check out my other build http://www.pro-touring.com/threads/9...ject-Obsession

05-24-2014, 08:08 PM	#41
Baer383 Drives: 2013 ZL1 Ashen Gray Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Lawrenceville,Ga Posts: 668	My hill assist held the car way too long so I just changed the sensor,I don't miss it at all.

05-24-2014, 08:10 PM	#42
RxRated Drives: 2013 SS/RS LS3 NPP/Hurst Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Hickory, NC Posts: 55	It is terrible. First 2 things to do to an M6 is replace the yaw sensor, and install a skip shift eliminator.