Have gas prices made you rethink about getting a Camaro?

[DGthe3]

I have considered getting the V6 some times, but since the base V8 will get reasonable mileage, I'm going to stick with it. I would consider the Volt of fuel savings make it cheaper to own over a period of 5 years. Even then, I'd only consider it

Originally Posted by BBfan24

whatever happened to the Evo1?

You mean GM's EV1 experiment? If you meant the Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution 1, please ignore the following. Short answer for what happened to the EV1: they got crushed. The EV1 was supposed to be like the Volt, an extended range electric car, but California mandated that X# of cars needed to be 0 emission. So the EV1 became a heavy, limited range all electric car that was impractical for most. After the leases were up, GM crushed every one they could get ahold of. A full detailed explanation hasn't really been given. Who killed the electric car? I blame California, the ones who wanted it in the first place.

Many engineers who worked on the EV1 were put onto the Volt. I'm sure that an early name for the Volt was the EV2.

[z28collection]

im buying the biggest v8 i can afford, i like big power and that is the bottom line. and my 99 z with an m6 gets great highway mileage, i would jump in it and drive cross country with no worries.

[MerF]

Not sure which option to choose for my thinking, so I chose "maybe". Basically I may get a DI V6 vert instead of a V8. It all depends on the test drives honestly. But lucky me (sorta) I get to wait a bit longer for my car to release so I can try out as many coupes as possible to gauge both packages.

[theholycow]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

Wait a second, the numbers you provided are very good and all...but I very much doubt that the 27mpg mark is combined fuel economy for the V6 (because you know the V8 will be lucky to breach 26mpg hwy.)

Also, even if you're going to assume that the Camaro will get 27 combined, why not look at how many car are above 27mpg instead of 30mpg? That may be a surprisingly fertile area...

The CTS gets 26mpg hwy with the DI V6. And the Camaro V6 should only weigh 100-200lbs less than that car. So it's VERY possible that they managed to (through gearing/weight savings, etc) squeeze out an extra mpg hwy and probably a couple city.

Highway mileage is more about drag and gearing, weight doesn't make much difference. City mileage is where weight matters, but 200lbs at the scale we're talking about isn't worth much anyway.

But if fuel economy is your primary buying decision, and you're looking for a 30+ mpg econobox, you're looking in the wrong place. Even with the Turbo 4-cylinder, I don't think that's going to happen this 5th generation Camaro.

I'll get more than 30mpg from my Camaro. My current car is rated 24 combined, and I do less highway driving than the EPA figures into the combined rating, but I'm consistently over 30 and have been working on my style; my last tank was 34mpg. If 24 is a reasonable expectation for EPA combined rating, I'm sure people can get 30 with less effort than I'm making now.

[The_Stache]

Originally Posted by theholycow

Also, even if you're going to assume that the Camaro will get 27 combined, why not look at how many car are above 27mpg instead of 30mpg? That may be a surprisingly fertile area...

I wasn't trying to compare that, I was only trying to point out that to get better than average (20-30MPG) your limiting yourself to 2% of possible cars in the selection process. Also the average person is not going to notice 2-3MPG, BUT they will notice 4-5 or more.

Highway mileage is more about drag and gearing, weight doesn't make much difference. City mileage is where weight matters, but 200lbs at the scale we're talking about isn't worth much anyway.

Agree completely, but this is off the original top of why should we accept a 20-30mpg combined camaro

I'll get more than 30mpg from my Camaro. My current car is rated 24 combined, and I do less highway driving than the EPA figures into the combined rating, but I'm consistently over 30 and have been working on my style; my last tank was 34mpg. If 24 is a reasonable expectation for EPA combined rating, I'm sure people can get 30 with less effort than I'm making now.

Good for you, but to have ANY statistical merit you can't use one off situations. Thats why the epa has a formula they use on EVERY car. So that the same test is done and the results are comparable without outside influences.

I'm just tired of everyone saying there are more and better fuel efficient cars out there.. when really there is a VERY limited selection and on most of that selection you pay a premium for the "Hybrid" tech.

[pinkcamaro10]

I was a little worried before i learned about what the gas milage a camaro would get, but im more than happy with 27mpg for a camaro, It's a muscle car, its not supposed to get 40. I've waited too long for it to affect my decision. The car means more to me than getting good milage.

[radz28]

EXPLATIVE - NO!!! I have a DD and only plan for this car to be a weekend cruiser and track player. Gas is a concern, but if GM makes a Super Camaro, I want it.

[The_Blur]

I want a performance car. If that means that I have to get a performance V6 instead of a performance V8, I'm okay with that.

[theholycow]

Originally Posted by diarmadhi

Good for you, but to have ANY statistical merit you can't use one off situations. Thats why the epa has a formula they use on EVERY car. So that the same test is done and the results are comparable without outside influences.

My point was actually that, for anyone who is specifically interested in MPG, the Camaro should easily beat 30. It doesn't take crazy hypermiling efforts or crawling slow speeds, just a small amount of study and practice. In fact, that DI V6 with all its torque available right at 1000 rpm should be awesome simply by shifting low, if you are willing to give up some engine roar on your daily commuting accelerations.

Of course, those willing to go tediously slow and make large amounts of effort could do even better, but it's highly unlikely that such people would buy a Camaro.

[Fandango]

I think the only thing I've done because of gas prices is basically change from getting the SC V8 to just the Standard V8. But, I could change my mind. I've tried to figure out this whole gas thing, I fell short. However, I still think Ethenol is the way to go. If we can just produce more corn and wheat to off set the demand for food for gas. Then again my plan is to by a volt and then just drive my gas guzzlers on the week ends for now. I thought I knew, what this economy was headed a few months back. I knew there was going to be a spike in gas because of Summer travel. I just didn't think it would be this high. I know I am voting for John McCain though. I think we should see a change after the olympics and the election.

I have to say this though, Come hell or high water, I will have a Camaro!

[chadrcr]

Originally Posted by SSmoked

guys it the 70's all over again. after 2009 gm will do the same thing they did in the 70's and thats make the motors smaller, and put less hp in them in order to achive a higher fuel economy. perhaps the inline turbo 4 that was brought up awhile ago??
but has it changed my dads decision. no it has not. and the chance of him getting are still pending the final outcome of it.

It can not be the 70's, the turbo4 has more horsepower than the biggest V8 in the mid-late 70's, and current V8's get better mpg than MOST 4/6 cylinders back then.
Technology has come too far, for it to be like the 70's early 80's. The 500 hp cars may be fewer and further between though........in a few years.

[Eisenhower]

Naaa... I still want the biggest engine available, but I was thinking of making it my weekend and holiday car.

[chadrcr]

Originally Posted by pinkcamaro10

I was a little worried before i learned about what the gas milage a camaro would get, but im more than happy with 27mpg for a camaro, It's a muscle car, its not supposed to get 40. I've waited too long for it to affect my decision. The car means more to me than getting good milage.

While I am not MORE than happy with 27 mpg ( not confirmed ? )
Is this V6 mpg? Since nobody told me for SURE which engines we will get
I will be plenty happy if the V8 mpg is equal to the LS1 mpg.... which would almost get 30 hiway mpg when driven nicely, I think it was rated at 25/26 hwy (02 Z/28).

[Iroczlover]

Everything I Currently own is a V8 (or has a v8 ready to go in it)The two vettes get the best gas milage out of all of the cars lo.

So my answer will be no When the Vert comes out we will get one.