2010 Camaro Crash Test results - Full (almost)

[rodimus prime]

So apparently they only do 1 run for each test? Thats pretty scientific.

So apparently there is no control to this yet again gov run mess. LOL.

That would be like me having to shoot only 1 round from each of the 3 distances in the Marines to rifle qualify.

[MLL67RSSS]

Originally Posted by MontyCarlo

You're trying to use the single worst 2010 Camaro accident yet as a typical case? In most cases, yes, people DO walk away from bad Camaro accidents with no issues.

Originally Posted by caverman

I want more information other than the title of a YouTube video. After all, I can post the same video and put 3 star rating in the title.

From what I've heard and seen it looks like the Camaro is holding up well in crashes. I saw a post where someone hit a tree really hard in the front and it definately totalled the car yet he walked away with no issues.

Just kindly pointed out to caverman that in the crash HE mentioned the driver didn't walk away with no issues, that was the ONLY point I was making. I happen to appreciate it when someone corrects me when I've stated something not entirely accurate.

[Vash]

Originally Posted by rodimus prime

So apparently they only do 1 run for each test? Thats pretty scientific.

So apparently there is no control to this yet again gov run mess. LOL.

That would be like me having to shoot only 1 round from each of the 3 distances in the Marines to qualify.

But GM does smash a bunch of cars (correct me if wrong..) too.

It can be improved for 2011+. I am sure they might need to play with the passenger airbag. As far as the seat and the dash. Don't see that changing or need to be changed. Maybe the dash bottom if it's hitting the leg and causing leg points to go up.

[GTAHVIT]

Merged,

Now we can discuss it in one place.

[rodimus prime]

According to NHTSA' your safer in a 1992 Camaro as both a driver and a passenger. Your head injury criterion, chest deceleration g's and femur loads all tested better in a 1992 camaro than a 2010 camaro with dual front (didnt have a passenger airbag until 1993) curtain and side airbags.


Okay, I almost belive that.

1992 camaro: with 1 airbag

Head Injury Criterion 585 583
Chest deceleration (g's) 39 42
Femur load l/r1 (lb) 717 / 627 150 / 174


2010 camaro: with 6 airbags

Head Injury Criterion 661 626
Chest deceleration (g's) 53 49
Femur load l/r1 (lb) 908 / 866 280 / 390


Really Im at a higher risk for head injuries in a 2010?? really??

Is that even possible?

[MLL67RSSS]

Originally Posted by Vash

But GM does smash a bunch of cars (correct me if wrong..) too.

It can be improved for 2011+. I am sure they might need to play with the passenger airbag. As far as the seat and the dash. Don't see that changing or need to be changed. Maybe the dash bottom if it's hitting the leg and causing leg points to go up.

Yeah they made the Camaro strong , TOO STRONG! Needs to crumple more to absorb more frontal impact and increase the de-acceleration rate (I think that's right.) As Vash points out now that they KNOW there is an issue they can go about correcting it. They can play around with where they have high-strength steel as opposed to normal strength. Adjust where bends in the metal are, or add bends if necessary, etc., etc. There have been instances where a certain model of car didn't perform as well as they would like and a few tweaks in the design achieved better results in the same model the next year.

[Sleestack]

Originally Posted by Brokinarrow

meh, could care less. 11-20% chance of injury isn't all that bad imo.

I could care about 11-20% of the time......

[Zeus]

Originally Posted by dursin

Looks like 4 stars for front driver & passenger, 5 stars side driver and 5 star rollover. Only thing not rated yet is rear passenger.

Go to www.safercar.gov to see results and watch videos of Camaro's being destroyed!

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I thought the added weight was to secure 5 Stars for current and future tests????

[Supermans]

Originally Posted by 1973CamaroZ/28

The HICs in the test were a little high, but not fatal, like the survivor of that Black Camaro, he would made it out, but surely would have been sore in the morning!
I uploaded the video on my channel..

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31883

A broken back, two broken wrists, a broken ankle, and a concussion...

Just a little sore in the morning..lol..

The guy was lucky. Since we don't have any more info on that crash, or how fast he was going.etc.. It would be nice to know how has in order to compare it with the 40mph crash test dummy results.

Originally Posted by rodimus prime

According to NHTSA' your safer in a 1992 Camaro as both a driver and a passenger. Your head injury criterion, chest deceleration g's and femur loads all tested better in a 1992 camaro than a 2010 camaro with dual front (didnt have a passenger airbag until 1993) curtain and side airbags.


Okay, I almost belive that.

1992 camaro: with 1 airbag

Head Injury Criterion 585 583
Chest deceleration (g's) 39 42
Femur load l/r1 (lb) 717 / 627 150 / 174


2010 camaro: with 6 airbags

Head Injury Criterion 661 626
Chest deceleration (g's) 53 49
Femur load l/r1 (lb) 908 / 866 280 / 390


Really Im at a higher risk for head injuries in a 2010?? really??

Is that even possible?

Yes you are. This is why I foresee insurance rates going up the moment they get their hands on this. The troubling thing is GM had to have tested a dozen or more of these vehicles and known that such a poor test result was pending. What is strange is that Fbodfather kept telling us the car would get great safety ratings. Perhaps that is what he was being told but someone must have known and either kept quiet.. I don't know, it is all speculation at this point and perhaps we will never know why or what happened in this case. It is just interesting to point out that the older 1992 Camaro with 1 airbag is a lot safer in a frontal 40 mph crash than the 2010 camaro is with 6. However I do have to point out I think the 2010 Camaro can take on a Honda Fit and any other smart car with a 5 star rating and eat it alive..lol..

Combining the threads sure makes things confusing...lol..

Originally Posted by sabrescamaro

Why would that make anyone not buy it? Accidents happen, but this car is a whole hell of a lot safer than the subcompacts on the road, and a lot safer than anything people were driving in years past. Doesn't discourage me at all, and I guess you guys should just hope that you're hitting a yaris if you plan to crash. See who makes it out of that crash.

Not if you compare it to the 1992 Camaro and above.

I still do not feel 100% safe in my new Camaro not because of the 4 star rating but because I still do not know if my car is affected by the tremec broken tail shaft issue. So I haven't pushed my car yet with launch control or taken it to the track. I don't understand why when I call GM, they keep telling me to call back in a week and still have no info. This to me could be dangerous as a shaft breaking under heavy load can randomly decide to snap in the wrong direction and hurt the driver or passenger. Once I get an OK from GM, then I take it to the track..

[stovt001]

My primary concern right now is the insurance costs. Those could be a dealbreaker.

[StoutFiles]

Will these results raise insurance prices?

[rodimus prime]

Im just saying there is not a chance in hell of a 1992 camaro being safer at front impacts...especially with the old school air bag, and no airbag on the passenger side.

Something is seriously wrong with how they determine data if so. It must not take airbags into account, because the whole purpose of the damn thing is to slow your impact with the dashboard.

So go ahead and take your head and whip it into the dash as fast as you can. It will probably hurt like a bitch.

Now stack a few pillows there and try it. Its not going to hurt as much.

Plus with the curtains and seat airbag there is less chance of you bouncing your face off the window afterwards.

Something is wrong with how they collect data.

One crash per side is not enough evidence to suggest anything.

[rodimus prime]

Your insurance isnt going to go up. They dont even rate every car.

[cab2g]

Insurance rates are determined based upon risk. There are many factors that determine risk. One of them is the overall safety of the vehicle. For example SUVs have higher insurance rates than cars typically because they have a rollover risk. Even though they'd win in an accident versus a car. So if you are at higher risk to be injured in a crash, you can be sure that your premiums will be higher. Medical bills are the most expensive part of a major accident. We can only hope that the rate difference will be something like 10% higher or less. Something that most people wouldn't really notice...