Voiding warranty with hood scoop?

[PalmerGA]

Originally Posted by Skilerb

I will speak from personal experience. Not hear say. I purchased a brand new 2012 in May of 2012. It was not the RS model and came with the 18in painted rims. When back in the following week to buy the 20in rims and tires out of the dealers accessory catalog and was informed by the service sept that if I change ANYTHING on the car even with items from the catalog it would void the ENTIRE warranty. I called BS. They then provided me with a paper from GM that in fact states the same thing. I even contacted GM directly and got a case number and argued it for 3 weeks. Even my salesman argued it with GM for me. And in the end GM REFUSED to budge. I even found an identical (except color) car in town, got his build sheet and presented it to GM along with my build sheet since the ONLY differences were the color of the cars and that his had the 20in rims on it. Still they refused and said if I changed anything it WILL void the warranty. And yes I even brought of the Munson Moss act. The dealership even called it total BS. GM told me it's my car, do what I want with it. But if something goes wrong they CAN deny any warranty work. Now since then I have purchased another new Camaro a 13 with the features I want. Yeah yeah I know give me a lecture for buying a second one after being screwed over. Anyway I did it cause my dealership is "working with me" if anything ever happens. And no I won't say what that means. But bottom line GM CAN void the ENTIRE warranty for ANY changes if they want. I recommend you not take my word for it and research it FULLY yourself. And yes I can back all of this up.

There is something very wrong with this story. I don't believe it.

[PalmerGA]

Originally Posted by salva

I have a 14 LS and I'm planning to put a hood scoop on it. Anyone know if this sort of mod voids the warranty?

Originally Posted by Caddyroger

No it should not void the warranty just for the hood.

Originally Posted by salva

Sweet. What kind of mods void the warranty btw?

Originally Posted by TommyTheCat

Performance mods

Originally Posted by salva

AWESOME

Ummmm... not so fast fellas. I would have to ask what kind of scoop are you wanting to install? Is it functional, as in pulling in (or through) air from outside... or strictly for looks (like the mail slots on the 10-13 SS? If functional, will it deflect or redirect water (or other potential foreign objects) that may enter the engine compartment from rain )or just from being sucked in through the scoop)?

Generally speaking, if YOU alter (or have a non-GM certified mechanic alter) the functionality or performance of your car... some or all of your warranty may be voided if it is determined that YOUR mod caused a failure.

When it comes to warranties, one size does not fit all.

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by salva

I have a 14 LS and I'm planning to put a hood scoop on it. Anyone know if this sort of mod voids the warranty?

Thanks

No it won't, look at my car with the ACS TL1 hood insert.....I have had warranty work done since.

[PalmerGA]

Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

No it won't, look at my car with the ACS TL1 hood insert.....I have had warranty work done since.

Nice looking scoop, Bird, but what kind of warranty work have you had done since it was installed? I'm not suggesting that an aftermarket hood scoop would void your warranty if your rear axel breaks, but what about something that could have been caused by the scoop being installed? What if GM determined that (somehow) water got sucked into the engine because of rain coming in through the scoop, and your engine was ruined. You think your warranty will hold up? I don't think so unless, maybe, the scoop was sold and installed by your dealership (which I doubt it was).

I'm just grasping at straws here and my "what if" is certainly far-fetched, but I don't want salva (OP) to think he/she is guaranteed to be home free to make this mod (or any functionality mod, really). Chances are there will never be any issue, but it's not a lock. Just saying...

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by Skilerb

I will speak from personal experience. Not hear say. I purchased a brand new 2012 in May of 2012. It was not the RS model and came with the 18in painted rims. When back in the following week to buy the 20in rims and tires out of the dealers accessory catalog and was informed by the service sept that if I change ANYTHING on the car even with items from the catalog it would void the ENTIRE warranty. I called BS. They then provided me with a paper from GM that in fact states the same thing. I even contacted GM directly and got a case number and argued it for 3 weeks. Even my salesman argued it with GM for me. And in the end GM REFUSED to budge. I even found an identical (except color) car in town, got his build sheet and presented it to GM along with my build sheet since the ONLY differences were the color of the cars and that his had the 20in rims on it. Still they refused and said if I changed anything it WILL void the warranty. And yes I even brought of the Munson Moss act. The dealership even called it total BS. GM told me it's my car, do what I want with it. But if something goes wrong they CAN deny any warranty work. Now since then I have purchased another new Camaro a 13 with the features I want. Yeah yeah I know give me a lecture for buying a second one after being screwed over. Anyway I did it cause my dealership is "working with me" if anything ever happens. And no I won't say what that means. But bottom line GM CAN void the ENTIRE warranty for ANY changes if they want. I recommend you not take my word for it and research it FULLY yourself. And yes I can back all of this up.

You say the dealer is working with you. I say bullshit. They are the ones causing you this grief if this story is true which I have no reason to doubt. I had my dealer install performance mods on a couple of my cars over the years and still never had an issue with warranty. You know why? Because I have a good dealer that really does work with people on these things because they are car guys too. They have ways around things if they really want to warranty something.

[13blackLS]

I agre that its dependent on the dealership...my rx8 had basic bolt ons modified suspension and at the time was 6 years old with 38k on the odo...went in for a check engine light....dealer said engine wasnt making any vaccuum pressure and they couldnt figure out why...they contacted mazda and mazda replaced the motor under warrantee for me...go figure....

[BigBlock69RS]

I'm sure if this thread goes on long enough, you will find someone who claims their entire warranty was voided by installing fuzzy dice.

I'm always surprised what people will put up with and just shrug it off blaming GM when it's their asshat greedy dealer, who is at fault.

Just move on and find a mod friend dealer. No point arguing with them every time that the fuzzy dice on your mirror had nothing to do with your trans going out.

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by PalmerGA

Nice looking scoop, Bird, but what kind of warranty work have you had done since it was installed? I'm not suggesting that an aftermarket hood scoop would void your warranty if your rear axel breaks, but what about something that could have been caused by the scoop being installed? What if GM determined that (somehow) water got sucked into the engine because of rain coming in through the scoop, and your engine was ruined. You think your warranty will hold up? I don't think so unless, maybe, the scoop was sold and installed by your dealership (which I doubt it was).

I'm just grasping at straws here and my "what if" is certainly far-fetched, but I don't want salva (OP) to think he/she is guaranteed to be home free to make this mod (or any functionality mod, really). Chances are there will never be any issue, but it's not a lock. Just saying...

Thanks
Under hood I had the air box replaced because of a cracked latching tab, I haven't had any other under hood issues.
Well since rain getting into the engine is impossible due to the design of the water drain system, and the air intake I have no concerns with anything ever happening like that. In fact since I installed it we have had torrential downpours, snow, ice and not one problem.
Now if the water dumped directly on the engine or electronics I can see them not honoring any warranty on those components if they can prove that it was the cause, it will not void the warranty on anything it could not affect. Anyway the question was will it void your warranty, just installing one will not void your warranty. The only comment my dealer has made is it looks really good on there...

[PalmerGA]

Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

Anyway the question was will it void your warranty, just installing one will not void your warranty.

Well we agree on this - Installing the scoop will NOT void any warranty. Now, what if down the road OP has issues with the paint on his hood? Are you saying a dealer (or GM) couldn't find a way to blame it on the aftermarket scoop? I'm just saying there is no way to guarantee that a mod (any mod) won't possibly effect some specific portion of your warranty, under certain conditions.

I understand what you're saying, and agree at face value. I just want OP to understand "future issues" may be effected by any mod he may do or may have done. That applies to all of us.

[2013 ZL1 #7860]

Originally Posted by Skilerb

I will speak from personal experience. Not hear say. I purchased a brand new 2012 in May of 2012. It was not the RS model and came with the 18in painted rims. When back in the following week to buy the 20in rims and tires out of the dealers accessory catalog and was informed by the service sept that if I change ANYTHING on the car even with items from the catalog it would void the ENTIRE warranty. I called BS. They then provided me with a paper from GM that in fact states the same thing. I even contacted GM directly and got a case number and argued it for 3 weeks. Even my salesman argued it with GM for me. And in the end GM REFUSED to budge. I even found an identical (except color) car in town, got his build sheet and presented it to GM along with my build sheet since the ONLY differences were the color of the cars and that his had the 20in rims on it. Still they refused and said if I changed anything it WILL void the warranty. And yes I even brought of the Munson Moss act. The dealership even called it total BS. GM told me it's my car, do what I want with it. But if something goes wrong they CAN deny any warranty work. Now since then I have purchased another new Camaro a 13 with the features I want. Yeah yeah I know give me a lecture for buying a second one after being screwed over. Anyway I did it cause my dealership is "working with me" if anything ever happens. And no I won't say what that means. But bottom line GM CAN void the ENTIRE warranty for ANY changes if they want. I recommend you not take my word for it and research it FULLY yourself. And yes I can back all of this up.

Umm, no...

[45thAnniversary2SS]

Yea I have CAI, headers and a tune and have had warranty work done... I'm also lowered with a body kit.

I do have factory rims thiugh so maybe that made the difference lol.

[skipinminn]

I always wonder why the GM customer Service guy never chimes in on threads like this one???

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by PalmerGA

Well we agree on this - Installing the scoop will NOT void any warranty. Now, what if down the road OP has issues with the paint on his hood? Are you saying a dealer (or GM) couldn't find a way to blame it on the aftermarket scoop? I'm just saying there is no way to guarantee that a mod (any mod) won't possibly effect some specific portion of your warranty, under certain conditions.

I understand what you're saying, and agree at face value. I just want OP to understand "future issues" may be effected by any mod he may do or may have done. That applies to all of us.

I think you misread my reply, I did say it was possible they could but they would have to prove the mod caused the problem. They just can't say it was because of the mod. And it could only affect components the mod could damage.

[01pewterz28]

So what if he replaces his current hood with an OEM say SS hood or ZL1 hood should be no issues after all it's an OEM part?