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Slowp0ke · 07-10-2014, 11:06 AM

im not a F'n troll do you want pictures for Christ sake? im telling the truth, its a crappy situation

Paladinjc · 07-10-2014, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slowp0ke

yes sir Johnson motors is the dealer, im not a troll guys I just want info and advice to help me through this tough ordeal

A few questions.

1. have you already signed the paper work, I mean the actual purchase loan agreement?
2. if yes to question above when and where?

Please see and review the info below.

Home Equity Loans and Second Mortgages

Under a federal law called the Truth in Lending Act, you have until midnight of the third business day after a contract was signed to cancel:

a home improvement loan
a second mortgage, or
any other loan where you pledge your home as security (except for a first mortgage).

The lender must tell you about your right to cancel and must give you a cancellation form when you sign the loan papers. This three-business-day period may be extended for up to three years in certain circumstances

http://autoresource.internetautoguid...hase-1556.html

HDRDTD · 07-10-2014, 11:10 AM

If the valves floated and kissed the pistons at all, I would insist on a new engine. There's no way anyone would be able to be sure if the piston's are still fine or not. Get the GM rep involved if need be, but politely insist on a new engine.

Since the ZL1 has a rev limiter, the only way I can think of for the engine to rev fast enough to float the valves, would be if someone downshifted and over-revved the engine that way.

Slowp0ke · 07-10-2014, 11:11 AM

yes its all finalized, and I never took the car off the lot so I could cancle the loan if I reallt pushed for it... but if I tell them I want a new motor and they refuse then that's the route ill take because knowing what I know know now about premature bearing wear and hot spots and what not that don't sit well with me at all

jon6.0 · 07-10-2014, 11:12 AM

True. I didn't think of that. If they went from 3rd to 2nd and mechanically over-revved it that would cause it as the limiter can't stop a mechanical over-rev.

jon6.0 · 07-10-2014, 11:14 AM

New engine or walk on the deal. You don't have possession of the car. Get a lawyer involved and/or GM Corporate at this point.

Paladinjc · 07-10-2014, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paladinjc

A few questions.

1. have you already signed the paper work, I mean the actual purchase loan agreement?
2. if yes to question above when and where?

Please see and review the info below.

Home Equity Loans and Second Mortgages

Under a federal law called the Truth in Lending Act, you have until midnight of the third business day after a contract was signed to cancel:

a home improvement loan
a second mortgage, or
any other loan where you pledge your home as security (except for a first mortgage).

The lender must tell you about your right to cancel and must give you a cancellation form when you sign the loan papers. This three-business-day period may be extended for up to three years in certain circumstances

http://autoresource.internetautoguid...hase-1556.html

I should have given you more detailed info. The federal statue that controls 'truth and lending' only applies to mortgages or if you use your home as equity. However laws vary from state to state. In NJ the 3 day law apples too all contract deals. I would go the PA state website for truth and lending and start doing some research

jon6.0 · 07-10-2014, 11:25 AM

It hasn't left the dealer. He needs to get a lawyer and/or GM Corporate involved.

Slowp0ke · 07-10-2014, 11:28 AM

how do I get GM Corp. evolved?

HDRDTD · 07-10-2014, 11:46 AM

Be polite, but firm, get a GM rep involved if need be, but insist on a new engine at this point.

DarthZL1 · 07-10-2014, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slowp0ke

im not a F'n troll do you want pictures for Christ sake? im telling the truth, its a crappy situation

How many times do you need to hear "Cancel the Deal" before you realize that THIS is what you should do?

I have a friend who lives near Johnson Motors. I gave him a call. Asked him to swing by and check out what's going on.

Slowp0ke · 07-10-2014, 12:30 PM

is there a GM Rep on this site?

DRKS1D3 · 07-10-2014, 12:42 PM

My God this guy...

Listen Skippy, has the dealer flat out told you they are not replacing the engine or anything? If they have, you have dealt with the worst dealer on the face of the Earth. Yes you signed the papers, but you can't even physically move the car off of the lot. The engine is toast! I have never heard of such nonsense. Please, go talk to the dealer and inquire as to their plan of action. What are you going to do with a car and no engine? I would personally tell them NO DEAL and demand the deal be null and void! You purchased a car that is supposed to be mechanically sound. This is not worth it!!! Walk to the general manager and say, "I no longer want this car, the engine is shot. Void the deal.". Why would you still pursue this after the car has these major problems? Walk away...NOW! This is not the only Camaro in the world. There are hundreds of ZL1's to be had.

Here: http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...ear=1981&Log=0

Slowp0ke · 07-10-2014, 12:48 PM

correct! they said until GM tells them that the scaring on the pistons will cause anything they are just going to get the heads machined and new valves and put it back together.... so basically they are going to throw parts at it until it runs correctly, im not settling for that, I got a meeting with the big wigs tomarrow over this crap, we will see how it goes

07-10-2014, 11:12 AM	#47
jon6.0 Going for Plaid Drives: 2011 C6 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Phoenix Posts: 885	True. I didn't think of that. If they went from 3rd to 2nd and mechanically over-revved it that would cause it as the limiter can't stop a mechanical over-rev. __________________ 2014 ZL1, manual trans, carbon hood insert, Rotofab, Pacesetter 1 7/8" headers, 1" drop BMR springs, stock pulleys, 91 octane tune, 545rwhp & 515rwtq Serviced and modded by Cordes Performance. 2011 C6, 750rwhp, forged LS3, ported LSA heads, Vortech Ti-trim, 227/243 115+4 Lunati cam, ported LS3 intake, Alky Control methanol, Pfadt sways/shocks/trans mounts, Pfadt tri-y headers(Sold 6/28/14)

07-10-2014, 11:14 AM	#48
jon6.0 Going for Plaid Drives: 2011 C6 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Phoenix Posts: 885	New engine or walk on the deal. You don't have possession of the car. Get a lawyer involved and/or GM Corporate at this point. __________________ 2014 ZL1, manual trans, carbon hood insert, Rotofab, Pacesetter 1 7/8" headers, 1" drop BMR springs, stock pulleys, 91 octane tune, 545rwhp & 515rwtq Serviced and modded by Cordes Performance. 2011 C6, 750rwhp, forged LS3, ported LSA heads, Vortech Ti-trim, 227/243 115+4 Lunati cam, ported LS3 intake, Alky Control methanol, Pfadt sways/shocks/trans mounts, Pfadt tri-y headers(Sold 6/28/14)

07-10-2014, 11:25 AM	#50
jon6.0 Going for Plaid Drives: 2011 C6 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Phoenix Posts: 885	It hasn't left the dealer. He needs to get a lawyer and/or GM Corporate involved. __________________ 2014 ZL1, manual trans, carbon hood insert, Rotofab, Pacesetter 1 7/8" headers, 1" drop BMR springs, stock pulleys, 91 octane tune, 545rwhp & 515rwtq Serviced and modded by Cordes Performance. 2011 C6, 750rwhp, forged LS3, ported LSA heads, Vortech Ti-trim, 227/243 115+4 Lunati cam, ported LS3 intake, Alky Control methanol, Pfadt sways/shocks/trans mounts, Pfadt tri-y headers(Sold 6/28/14)

07-10-2014, 12:42 PM	#55
DRKS1D3 Drives: '17 Corvette Grand Sport M7 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 3,748	My God this guy... Listen Skippy, has the dealer flat out told you they are not replacing the engine or anything? If they have, you have dealt with the worst dealer on the face of the Earth. Yes you signed the papers, but you can't even physically move the car off of the lot. The engine is toast! I have never heard of such nonsense. Please, go talk to the dealer and inquire as to their plan of action. What are you going to do with a car and no engine? I would personally tell them NO DEAL and demand the deal be null and void! You purchased a car that is supposed to be mechanically sound. This is not worth it!!! Walk to the general manager and say, "I no longer want this car, the engine is shot. Void the deal.". Why would you still pursue this after the car has these major problems? Walk away...NOW! This is not the only Camaro in the world. There are hundreds of ZL1's to be had. Here: http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...ear=1981&Log=0 __________________ MY RIDE: 2017 CORVETTE GRAND SPORT--TRIPLE BLACK, 7 SPEED MANUAL, VARARAM TCR-7 INTAKE, BORLA CATLESS X-PIPE, CARBON FIBER STAGE 2 AERO, MGW SHORT-THROW SHIFTER SOLD2011 TRIPLE BLACK SS CONVERTIBLE--6 SPEED MANUAL, MANY MODS, 455 RWHP/435 RWTQ DAD'S RIDE: 2012 ZL1 #1866--BLACK, 6 SPEED MANUAL, EXPOSED CF HOOD, POLISHED WHEELS, SUNROOF, ROTO-FAB INTAKE "Silly Americans, taking from the rich and giving to the poor only works in fairy tales. Success is earned here!".

07-10-2014, 11:06 AM	#43
Slowp0ke Drives: 2013 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Reynoldsville PA Posts: 44	im not a F'n troll do you want pictures for Christ sake? im telling the truth, its a crappy situation

07-10-2014, 11:10 AM	#45
HDRDTD Drives: 2013 Triple Black ZL1 Vert M6 ECF Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Trenton, Michigan Posts: 7,046	If the valves floated and kissed the pistons at all, I would insist on a new engine. There's no way anyone would be able to be sure if the piston's are still fine or not. Get the GM rep involved if need be, but politely insist on a new engine. Since the ZL1 has a rev limiter, the only way I can think of for the engine to rev fast enough to float the valves, would be if someone downshifted and over-revved the engine that way.

07-10-2014, 11:11 AM	#46
Slowp0ke Drives: 2013 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Reynoldsville PA Posts: 44	yes its all finalized, and I never took the car off the lot so I could cancle the loan if I reallt pushed for it... but if I tell them I want a new motor and they refuse then that's the route ill take because knowing what I know know now about premature bearing wear and hot spots and what not that don't sit well with me at all

07-10-2014, 11:28 AM	#51
Slowp0ke Drives: 2013 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Reynoldsville PA Posts: 44	how do I get GM Corp. evolved?

07-10-2014, 11:46 AM	#52
HDRDTD Drives: 2013 Triple Black ZL1 Vert M6 ECF Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Trenton, Michigan Posts: 7,046	Be polite, but firm, get a GM rep involved if need be, but insist on a new engine at this point.

07-10-2014, 12:30 PM	#54
Slowp0ke Drives: 2013 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Reynoldsville PA Posts: 44	is there a GM Rep on this site?

07-10-2014, 12:48 PM	#56
Slowp0ke Drives: 2013 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Reynoldsville PA Posts: 44	correct! they said until GM tells them that the scaring on the pistons will cause anything they are just going to get the heads machined and new valves and put it back together.... so basically they are going to throw parts at it until it runs correctly, im not settling for that, I got a meeting with the big wigs tomarrow over this crap, we will see how it goes