East Texas Muscle Cars' Turbo V6 Camaro to take on Nissan GT-R at the ring! - Page 7 - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

stovt001 · 08-08-2009, 02:39 PM

Sometimes the real fun is in the process and trying, not necessarily the result. Even if they fail, they end up making a really amazing V6 Camaro.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 08-08-2009, 05:31 PM

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" at all the negative nancys around here...

Your mother's ever tell you if you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all? Is there really a need for the repetitive "it ain't gonna happen"? No...you aren't building it, and it hasn't been built yet, so if you doubt them, then keep your comments to yourselves!

Epitaph · 08-08-2009, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragoneye

"

" at all the negative nancys around here...

Your mother's ever tell you if you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all? Is there really a need for the repetitive "it ain't gonna happen"? No...you aren't building it, and it hasn't been built yet, so if you doubt them, then keep your comments to yourselves!

It's the fact that they're getting pissed at these people for even attempting this feat that bothers me....

Btw, who says this car will be RWD? They could make it AWD. I'm not saying they will, but it's a possibility.

Don't forget that the GT-R will be using street tires as well. Their "Fastest Lap" was on racing tires.

*GTAHVIT* · 08-08-2009, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Epitath

It's the fact that they're getting pissed at these people for even attempting this feat that bothers me....

Btw, who says this car will be RWD? They could make it AWD. I'm not saying they will, but it's a possibility.

Don't forget that the GT-R will be using street tires as well. Their "Fastest Lap" was on racing tires.

I'm with ya but,

I don't think a AWD conversion is in the works for the 55K price tag they've got going.

ShnOmac · 08-08-2009, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Epitath

Don't forget that the GT-R will be using street tires as well. Their "Fastest Lap" was on racing tires.

That could make a major diff right there

bkservice1 · 08-09-2009, 01:51 PM

i dont care about the hp. i just love driving my car the way it is. its frigging awsome and everyone stares when i drive by

1GMFanatik · 08-09-2009, 01:59 PM

I don't understand why everyone gets all excited about the GT-R.. They are pretty sharp and pretty quick BUT what about the trans issues and not being covered STOCK from Nissan after using the Competitive Mode??

Anyways... I like the direction that ya'll are going with this and can't wait to see some updates let alone the final outcome. Keep on keepin on. Being different is most def where it's at.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 08-09-2009, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shnomac77

That could make a major diff right there

Something like 30 seconds according to Porche. They ran a BONE stock gtr down the ring to dispute Nissans phoney times, and it came out just shy of 8 minutes, if I recall correctly. Slower than a Z06.

EDIT: Here's an article.
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/09/30/p...ting-the-ring/

EDIT2: And I don't mean to turn this into a gtr-bashing thread. Simply providing some evidence that this isn't as difficult as some think.

Erik@Torq · 08-11-2009, 07:02 PM

R-spec tires compared to a high performance street tire (not racing slicks) will differ about 8-15 sec depending on the vehicle. The issue with the GT-R going so "slow" was because of different drivers, different days, different weather etc etc. I was there during the second run and saw it with my own eyes.

I have raced at The Nürburgring many times, last time being just a few months ago. I visit the track at least twice a year for "tourist driving" and twice a year for official racing.

HP is obviously important on a track like The Nürburgring, considering a hight difference of approx. 900feet and many long straights, but is far from everything. Just because a car has 2000hp won't make it go faster because it then has to brake harder and have a better suspension to keep the speed through the corners. Every part of the car is as important then the next. A well balanced, well sorted car is everything at that track!

May I ask who is driving? As I am sure you know, the drivers of the any car that has gone faster then 8min full lap, is no amateur. They say it takes about 150 laps to know your way around the track (14 miles, over 100 corners, many dips, bumps etc that WILL kill you if taken wrong) and another 100 laps to really be able to drive fast. I do believe a really good driver could take a highly modified Camaro and do a 8min lap, but where on a forum 30sec may not sound like much, is actually a life time on that track!

Will you be gutting the car completely? Full roll cage? What are the specs on the suspension and brakes besides who's making them? R-spec tires, street tires or slicks?

When will you be doing the actual timed run? On a manufacturer day? Because there are extremly few days that the complete track is open to the public without paying 10-15K USD for 2 hours track time. The tourist driving is not recommended for timed runs due to traffic, plus the Döttingehöhe straight (the long one) is closed and you have to enter the paddock before going out again.

I ask this because I have been involved in a few record runs and trials, and I know how hard it is to get in there.

I hope you guys take the time to answer my questions as I am extremely interested in this project as The Ring is my second home

I seriously hope you guys do pull this off, and I wish you all the luck!

If you have any questions about setting the car up for the track, or anything at all just send me a PM.

carsismeZ06 · 08-11-2009, 07:15 PM

If they do it...I'll buy one.

carsismeZ06 · 08-12-2009, 10:36 AM

http://www.gtrblog.com/2009/08/07/fr...with-turbo-v6/

I kinda like the GT-R, but after this...screw it.

Rikarus · 08-12-2009, 10:55 AM

So the Texan's should jsut go and KICK Ass!

PieNsky · 08-14-2009, 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Blur

It's more than just having an affordable and fast V6. This is proving the limits of the LLT and pushing it to dimensions never before reached. It is taking a car that targeted the Corvette and putting a turbocharged V6 in front of it. Stop thinking about the money and realize how amazing a feat of engineering this truly is. Of course it is going to be expensive, but how could it not be worth seeing someone's minimal Camaro LS defeat a Nissan GT-R at the Nurburgring?

I was told they are going with a loaded V6 over a LS

Fbodfather has stated several times the LS was to be a blank sheet of paper for those who wanted to spend it else where. It would have tough looking wouldn't it !

And what is the difference in the 1LT? Foglights,wheels and powered seats? Haven't decided on an aftermarket wheel and those aftermarket colored halo headlights look nice.

bluestang50 · 08-14-2009, 01:39 AM

hell yeah go east tx muscle cars, are yall trying to beat the GTRs real stock lap time of 7:56?

08-08-2009, 02:39 PM	#85
stovt001 Drives: 2006 Cobalt, 2004 Taurus wagon Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: California Posts: 3,810	Sometimes the real fun is in the process and trying, not necessarily the result. Even if they fail, they end up making a really amazing V6 Camaro. __________________ "It's kind of fun to do the impossible" - Walt Disney There's a great big beautiful tomorrow shining at the end of every day There's a great big beautiful tomorrow Just a dream away

08-08-2009, 05:31 PM	#86
Mr. Wyndham I used to be Dragoneye... Drives: 2018 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 31,873 View My Garage	"" at all the negative nancys around here... Your mother's ever tell you if you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all? Is there really a need for the repetitive "it ain't gonna happen"? No...you aren't building it, and it hasn't been built yet, so if you doubt them, then keep your comments to yourselves! __________________ *"Keep the faith."* - Fbodfather

08-11-2009, 07:15 PM	#94
carsismeZ06 Corvette and Camaro lover Drives: 2010 Camaro...some day... Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 983	If they do it...I'll buy one. __________________

08-12-2009, 10:36 AM	#95
carsismeZ06 Corvette and Camaro lover Drives: 2010 Camaro...some day... Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 983	GT-R Blog Thinks East Texas Muscle Cars Is A Joke http://www.gtrblog.com/2009/08/07/fr...with-turbo-v6/ I kinda like the GT-R, but after this...screw it. __________________

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08-09-2009, 01:51 PM	#90
bkservice1 BK SERVICE1 Drives: 2010 aqua blue rally stripes Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: houston,tx Posts: 42 View My Garage	i dont care about the hp. i just love driving my car the way it is. its frigging awsome and everyone stares when i drive by

08-09-2009, 01:59 PM	#91
1GMFanatik Da Blue Beast Drives: 08 Chevy TBSS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Marlton, NJ Posts: 153 View My Garage	I don't understand why everyone gets all excited about the GT-R.. They are pretty sharp and pretty quick BUT what about the trans issues and not being covered STOCK from Nissan after using the Competitive Mode?? Anyways... I like the direction that ya'll are going with this and can't wait to see some updates let alone the final outcome. Keep on keepin on. Being different is most def where it's at.

08-11-2009, 07:02 PM	#93
Erik@Torq Drives: '10 SS + '04 Z16 Z06 S/C Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Miramar, FL Posts: 1,196	R-spec tires compared to a high performance street tire (not racing slicks) will differ about 8-15 sec depending on the vehicle. The issue with the GT-R going so "slow" was because of different drivers, different days, different weather etc etc. I was there during the second run and saw it with my own eyes. I have raced at The Nürburgring many times, last time being just a few months ago. I visit the track at least twice a year for "tourist driving" and twice a year for official racing. HP is obviously important on a track like The Nürburgring, considering a hight difference of approx. 900feet and many long straights, but is far from everything. Just because a car has 2000hp won't make it go faster because it then has to brake harder and have a better suspension to keep the speed through the corners. Every part of the car is as important then the next. A well balanced, well sorted car is everything at that track! May I ask who is driving? As I am sure you know, the drivers of the any car that has gone faster then 8min full lap, is no amateur. They say it takes about 150 laps to know your way around the track (14 miles, over 100 corners, many dips, bumps etc that WILL kill you if taken wrong) and another 100 laps to really be able to drive fast. I do believe a really good driver could take a highly modified Camaro and do a 8min lap, but where on a forum 30sec may not sound like much, is actually a life time on that track! Will you be gutting the car completely? Full roll cage? What are the specs on the suspension and brakes besides who's making them? R-spec tires, street tires or slicks? When will you be doing the actual timed run? On a manufacturer day? Because there are extremly few days that the complete track is open to the public without paying 10-15K USD for 2 hours track time. The tourist driving is not recommended for timed runs due to traffic, plus the Döttingehöhe straight (the long one) is closed and you have to enter the paddock before going out again. I ask this because I have been involved in a few record runs and trials, and I know how hard it is to get in there. I hope you guys take the time to answer my questions as I am extremely interested in this project as The Ring is my second home I seriously hope you guys do pull this off, and I wish you all the luck! If you have any questions about setting the car up for the track, or anything at all just send me a PM.

08-12-2009, 10:55 AM	#96
Rikarus I can't tpye! Drives: 2010 RS/SS Victory Red Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Denver Posts: 580 View My Garage	So the Texan's should jsut go and KICK Ass!

08-14-2009, 01:39 AM	#98
bluestang50 Account Suspended Drives: DD Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Athens, GA Posts: 118	hell yeah go east tx muscle cars, are yall trying to beat the GTRs real stock lap time of 7:56?