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LOWDOWN · 08-18-2014, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Bhobbs

Ouch, C7 Z06 weighs 3,525 lbs. I knew it would be heavy but that is not good.

Think of it this way: with ALL the bits added vs. the Z51, it ONLY gained 100 lb.

Glass MUCH more than 1/2 full...

Number 3 · 08-18-2014, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

Think of it this way: with ALL the bits added vs. the Z51, it ONLY gained 100 lb.

Glass MUCH more than 1/2 full...

So you are saying the glass is half full

2cnd chance · 08-18-2014, 11:12 AM

Bottom line is all cars are gaining weight due to regulations and equipment. Even super cars are gaining weight. However the good news is HP is growing with it.

Bhobbs · 08-18-2014, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by LOWDOWN

Think of it this way: with ALL the bits added vs. the Z51, it ONLY gained 100 lb.

Glass MUCH more than 1/2 full...

Car is still significantly heavier than most people imagined. Not to mention it has nothing in common with previous Z06 cars. That's what I don't like about this car.

brt3 · 08-18-2014, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bhobbs

Car is still significantly heavier than most people imagined. Not to mention it has nothing in common with previous Z06 cars. That's what I don't like about this car.

Do you mean mostly the forced induction? It seems that, to make the numbers they got on HP and torque, the design team had to make a significant break from the past. I tend to prefer N.A. engines, especially on track, but the Z06 numbers are impressive. The curb weight, less so...

Bhobbs · 08-18-2014, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by brt3

Do you mean mostly the forced induction? It seems that, to make the numbers they got on HP and torque, the design team had to make a significant break from the past. I tend to prefer N.A. engines, especially on track, but the Z06 numbers are impressive. The curb weight, less so...

Basically, the entire package. I would rather it be a stripped down, hard top only, manual only, N/A engine with the DSSV dampers off the Z/28. I would want it to be as track focused as possible while being barely street legal. What I loved about the previous two Z06s is they were fast because they were so well balanced, not because they had ridiculously high horsepower.

I get they put an auto in it because people demanded it but those people don't really want a Z06. I know they made it convertible because people demanded it but those people don't really want a Z06.

2cnd chance · 08-18-2014, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bhobbs

Basically, the entire package. I would rather it be a stripped down, hard top only, manual only, N/A engine with the DSSV dampers off the Z/28. I would want it to be as track focused as possible while being barely street legal. What I loved about the previous two Z06s is they were fast because they were so well balanced, not because they had ridiculously high horsepower.

I get they put an auto in it because people demanded it but those people don't really want a Z06. I know they made it convertible because people demanded it but those people don't really want a Z06.

Maybe that's a recipe for the GS?

brt3 · 08-18-2014, 09:43 PM

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Maybe that's a recipe for the GS?

YES! It's pretty clear that the new Z06 is trying to capture a greater share of the "luxury GT" market, so an offshoot of the car -- that's more like the Z/28, in terms of "no compromises" -- would be tremendous.

It's interesting that the Viper tried to tone down the car to increase sales -- and that Viper sales have tanked. From what I can tell talking to dealers, the new Z06 does not seem to have that issue...

Bhobbs · 08-18-2014, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

Maybe that's a recipe for the GS?

I hope so but, with C8 development already started, I don't see them doing any more C7s.

Number 3 · 08-19-2014, 09:50 PM

I could see one more variant. A super track focused Corvette. Premium materials for lower weight. Not anything I could afford mind you but definitely something highly lustworthy.

ShnOmac · 08-19-2014, 09:53 PM

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I could see one more variant. A super track focused Corvette. Premium materials for lower weight. Not anything I could afford mind you but definitely something highly lustworthy.

ZO6-R perhaps......

Bhobbs · 08-19-2014, 10:25 PM

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ZO6-R perhaps......

I don't see how a pure track Corvette can have all that much in common with the Z06 outside the wide body chassis and brakes.

KarFan · 08-20-2014, 04:23 PM

I could see a more track focused C7 variant coming. I just think they should have saved Z06 for it and called this car a ZR1.

It's a real head scratcher after how well GM got the 5th Gen Camaro lineup from SS, 1LE, ZL1 and Z/28 that they could mix up the Z06 and ZR1 for the C7.

Bhobbs · 08-20-2014, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by KarFan

I could see a more track focused C7 variant coming. I just think they should have saved Z06 for it and called this car a ZR1.

It's a real head scratcher after how well GM got the 5th Gen Camaro lineup from SS, 1LE, ZL1 and Z/28 that they could mix up the Z06 and ZR1 for the C7.

I agree 100%.

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KarFan Drives: 2023 SGM Camaro 2SS 1LE 6M Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SoCal Posts: 583	I could see a more track focused C7 variant coming. I just think they should have saved Z06 for it and called this car a ZR1. It's a real head scratcher after how well GM got the 5th Gen Camaro lineup from SS, 1LE, ZL1 and Z/28 that they could mix up the Z06 and ZR1 for the C7.