Camaro SS vs Evo X

[Zeus]

Originally Posted by matt55

Come on Zeus , everone knows trap speed wins at the strip not that slilly ET#

dont know who everone is but he's right, its about the ET....

Originally Posted by DntWrryBeHappy21

>.< a stock car (from the factory, stock meaning NOTHING done to it not even a sticker unless its from the factory) can't be a ricer!! (except scions...sorry jmho)

Evos are quick little beasts and the camaro is a quick big beast....it really depends on what you want in a car....sigh

There is NOTHING wrong with either car, both are geared towards a different task and both accomplish that task very well.

[big hammer]

Originally Posted by 0235th

yes. just like the Impreza WRX STi.

so ugly, gaudy asian cars with tiny 4 bangers and big wings aren't ricers anymore? yeesh--- political correctness has gone too far now!

[DS1937]

I thought this site was about American cars!

[shevyman]

Originally Posted by Wolverine

This is an onboard camera video of an Evo 9. It passed a modded 4th gen Camaro and a stock 5th gen Camaro.

this video doesn't say much. looks like the track where you can pay to practice. cause ummm any pro would know not to race with the sunroof open. but i do agree that in a pro race the evo would take the 2010. its made for handling the camaro is not just focused on handling.

[SSmoked]

Originally Posted by DS1937

I thought this site was about American cars!

negative cheif. this site is about the 5th gen camaro. this particular thread that you graced urself with is about the 2010 camaro SS vs the Evolution 10.

why soo much hate in this thread? the muscle head guys are all like " evos are the ricers" and the tuner guys are like "gm almost went backrupt just to build a decent car"

both the evo 10 and camaro ss are EVEN when it comes to performance. and anything anybody else says is total false.
and for everybody calling evos ricers. first off a automobile cant be a ricer. the person who drives the car is the ricer. and secondly next time u refer to a evo as a ricer just remeber that its just as good as ur camaro with 2 more doors. thats right a eco box 4cyl car is just as good as ur big 426hp v8 camaro.

[shevyman]

now again for the thread post.

It's up to you man i like the car i am not a one man make. to be honest i was always against american car's but hey i went and bought one. plus it depends on what you want it for. me i got the camaro for a few reasons. 1) it was cheap and had power 2) i liked the look 3) i got it more for show and sponsors cause its a new model. so its what ever you want.

[GTengineer]

Originally Posted by Van

I chose to purchase the SS to replace the EVO, only because it was the only car with an engine (stock) that could peform close to what my car has currently.

Wut?

[Ronin_2SS]

funny how this became a ricer bashing thread. I would have to agree that a stock evo or wrx is not rice. To me that statement is just bigotry and shows extreme ignorance. And one thing is obvious...this thread is a prime example in showing the difference between a closed minded fan-boy and a true car enthusiast. Whether its import or american both sides have people who simply cant accept the qualities that either car/s posses. then there are those who appreciate the driving experience no matter what car it is. I personly would back up an import if it can out perform a muscle car, and in turn i would be elated to see a big v-8 blow the doors off a civic. speed is speed, power is power, no matter how you get it or where it comes from.

However I will continue to follow this thread simply based on entertainment purposes

[Dangerzone]

Since the Evo is "rice."

What about the Chevy Cobalt SS, Dodge Caliber SRT-4 or Dodge Neon SRT-4?
Tiny 4 bangers with turbo/supercharged engines with a wing?

[Hobbitos]

All,

My dad builds american hot rods of all types and years. He has done that for many years. Right now he has a mint 57 chevy with a 6 speed transmission and nice big block that will smoke your Camaro SS. He also has a 1940 ford street rod. He has driven camaros old and new as well as Porches and Vettes (Old and new). This is a dude that is over 50 pushing 60. I let him drive my Evo 10 and he did not say anything about Rice. He said this cars is freaking amazing!

So give yourself a chance to try something new before passing judgment. Your biases could be getting in the way of a new experience. Furthermore, I would trade my Evo X for my dads 57 any day. Then I would go Buy another Evo X to take to the track. I don't mean the drags either - I am into road courses such as Harris Hill Road in Texas.

The Camaro does seem like a fun car to drive around town. Nice cushy suspension. My Evo does not have that.

One more thing these Evos do not have the same issues as other Mitsubishis because they are designed, engineered and manufactured %100 in Japan. Mine has Italian brakes (brembo), BBS Wheel, German Transmission (Getrag), Recaro Seats, Harman and Kardon Stereo. The EVOS have limited slip diff, special torque splitting from from to back and Active YAW control. You can pull the hand brake and give it gas and it will separate the power from the front and the back so you can do 180s very fast.

- Hobbs

[Wesman]

Originally Posted by matt55

Come on Zeus , everone knows trap speed wins at the strip not that slilly ET#

Obviously half the people on here have no idea what trap speed even represents. A car is only as fast as its trap speed, you can run 13's all day in an Evo, but it still only trapping at 100MPH. So its overall rate of acceleration is not equal to that of something like a '10 SS, which has trapped as high as 111MPH, bone stock.

I could really care less about the Evo breaking 13's, because I don't launch my car at every light and then let off exactly 1/4 mile later. The majority of street driving involves acceleration from a roll, passing, merging, ect. So in the real world, the SS is the much faster car. There is an incomprable difference between the push in the seat you get from a 100MPH car compared to a 111MPH car. In a highway race, it would look like the Evo is going backwards.

Originally Posted by SSmoked

both the evo 10 and camaro ss are EVEN when it comes to performance. and anything anybody else says is total false.
and for everybody calling evos ricers. first off a automobile cant be a ricer. the person who drives the car is the ricer. and secondly next time u refer to a evo as a ricer just remeber that its just as good as ur camaro with 2 more doors. thats right a eco box 4cyl car is just as good as ur big 426hp v8 camaro.

A 111MPH trap speed difference is not EVEN. I don't know what school you went to, but last I checked 111MPH doesn't equal 100MPH.

An automobile certainly can be a "ricer", and thats what the Evo is. Its hilarious how all these ignorant young people think that they can change history; the term "rice" originated to describe Asian imports back in the 70's, thats it and thats all. It simply describes an Asian car, typically one with ugly ass styling like the Evo, with its huge park bench wing and fart can. Asian = rice, stop trying to modify the definition to suit your own views.

The Zeta chassis is 10x the car that the Mitsubishi Lancer could ever be in terms of safety, reliability, and build quality. The Lancer is one of the cheapest cars ever made, in every respect. Just because its modded with aftermarket parts to make the Evo version doesn't make the car itself any better, you're only fooling yourself. And as for the engine, there is no comparison in terms of the design and reliability, the LS V8 stomps out any engine Mitsubishi has EVER made.

Stop being ignorant and talking up the Evo, there are enough idiot ricers out there doing that already.

Originally Posted by Hobbitos

All,

One more thing these Evos do not have the same issues as other Mitsubishis because they are designed, engineered and manufactured %100 in Japan. Mine has Italian brakes (brembo), BBS Wheel, German Transmission (Getrag), Recaro Seats, Harman and Kardon Stereo. The EVOS have limited slip diff, special torque splitting from from to back and Active YAW control. You can pull the hand brake and give it gas and it will separate the power from the front and the back so you can do 180s very fast.

- Hobbs

What does being built in Japan have to do with anything?? Evos have tons of quality control problems, they have a thread over on one forum called "Model year various blown engines" which documents all the Evo owners that have lost motors, many bone stock under normal driving conditions. The transmissions and transfer cases are also problematic, there have been many incidents of transaxles blowing apart even with stock power. The clutches also have many issues, and replacing one is extremely labor intensive and expensive. You don't buy a Mitsubishi if you're looking for a quality built car, because you certainly won't get one.

[matt55]

Originally Posted by Wesman

Obviously half the people on here have no idea what trap speed even represents. A car is only as fast as its trap speed, you can run 13's all day in an Evo, but it still only trapping at 100MPH. So its overall rate of acceleration is not equal to that of something like a '10 SS, which has trapped as high as 111MPH, bone stock.

Trap speed = HP , ET = putting the HP down

I could really care less about the Evo

But yet here you are talking about it

breaking 13's, because I don't launch my car at every light and then let off exactly 1/4 mile later. The majority of street driving involves acceleration from a roll, passing, merging, ect. So in the real world, the SS is the much faster car. There is an incomprable difference between the push in the seat you get from a 100MPH car compared to a 111MPH car. In a highway race, it would look like the Evo is going backwards.

gold star , the SS in FASTER on the Hghway never said any diff !



A 111MPH trap speed difference is not EVEN. I don't know what school you went to, but last I checked 111MPH doesn't equal 100MPH.

Fastest MPH for one car vs Slowest MPH on the other car , totally unbiased on your part

An automobile certainly can be a "ricer", and thats what the Evo is. Its hilarious how all these ignorant young people think that they can change history; the term "rice" originated to describe Asian imports back in the 70's, thats it and thats all. It simply describes an Asian car, typically one with ugly ass styling like the Evo, with its huge park bench wing and fart can. Asian = rice, stop trying to modify the definition to suit your own views.

This is not the 70's , Camaro is not made in the USA .....

The Zeta chassis is 10x the car that the Mitsubishi Lancer could ever be in terms of safety,

NO, 5 star front crash rated , IIHS.org top pick Camaro is not either

reliability, and build quality. The Lancer is one of the cheapest cars ever made, in every respect. Just because its modded with aftermarket parts to make the Evo version doesn't make the car itself any better, you're only fooling yourself. And as for the engine, there is no comparison in terms of the design and reliability, the LS V8 stomps out any engine Mitsubishi has EVER made.

LSx is a great motor !

Stop being ignorant and talking up the Evo, there are enough idiot ricers out there doing that already.



What does being built in Japan have to do with anything?? Evos have tons of quality control problems, they have a thread over on one forum called "Model year various blown engines" which documents all the Evo owners that have lost motors, many bone stock under normal driving conditions. The transmissions and transfer cases are also problematic, there have been many incidents of transaxles blowing apart even with stock power. The clutches also have many issues, and replacing one is extremely labor intensive and expensive. You don't buy a Mitsubishi if you're looking for a quality built car, because you certainly won't get one.

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[Zeus]

Originally Posted by Wesman

Obviously half the people on here have no idea what trap speed even represents. A car is only as fast as its trap speed, you can run 13's all day in an Evo, but it still only trapping at 100MPH. So its overall rate of acceleration is not equal to that of something like a '10 SS, which has trapped as high as 111MPH, bone stock.

I could really care less about the Evo breaking 13's, because I don't launch my car at every light and then let off exactly 1/4 mile later. The majority of street driving involves acceleration from a roll, passing, merging, ect. So in the real world, the SS is the much faster car. There is an incomprable difference between the push in the seat you get from a 100MPH car compared to a 111MPH car. In a highway race, it would look like the Evo is going backwards.



A 111MPH trap speed difference is not EVEN. I don't know what school you went to, but last I checked 111MPH doesn't equal 100MPH.

An automobile certainly can be a "ricer", and thats what the Evo is. Its hilarious how all these ignorant young people think that they can change history; the term "rice" originated to describe Asian imports back in the 70's, thats it and thats all. It simply describes an Asian car, typically one with ugly ass styling like the Evo, with its huge park bench wing and fart can. Asian = rice, stop trying to modify the definition to suit your own views.

The Zeta chassis is 10x the car that the Mitsubishi Lancer could ever be in terms of safety, reliability, and build quality. The Lancer is one of the cheapest cars ever made, in every respect. Just because its modded with aftermarket parts to make the Evo version doesn't make the car itself any better, you're only fooling yourself. And as for the engine, there is no comparison in terms of the design and reliability, the LS V8 stomps out any engine Mitsubishi has EVER made.

Stop being ignorant and talking up the Evo, there are enough idiot ricers out there doing that already.



What does being built in Japan have to do with anything?? Evos have tons of quality control problems, they have a thread over on one forum called "Model year various blown engines" which documents all the Evo owners that have lost motors, many bone stock under normal driving conditions. The transmissions and transfer cases are also problematic, there have been many incidents of transaxles blowing apart even with stock power. The clutches also have many issues, and replacing one is extremely labor intensive and expensive. You don't buy a Mitsubishi if you're looking for a quality built car, because you certainly won't get one.

If I were a mod, id give you a 3 day ban for missrepresenting the Camaro5 community in such a biased, ignorant manor.


To all of those in this thread who are new to Camaro5, I promise not all Camaro enthusiasts are as biased and ignorant to cars as Wesman. Please be assured that our community is normally much more informed and welcoming.

[Ronin_2SS]

Originally Posted by Wesman

Asian = rice

ok so its racial bigotry for some people. interesting idvidual you are Wesman your bias/ignorance knows no bounds. Very entertaining to say the least. Surely you have every right to your opinions, however that doesnt change the fact that those opinions make you look like a complete moron. I do admire the fact that you continue to stick to those ideals no matter how ignorant and childish they are.

but i have a feeling you have heard all this before.....

ok no more sucker punches out of me


when it comes down to choosing an EVO over the 2010 camaro I honeslty believe you cannot go wrong with either car. as I stated before I would choose the camaro simply based on the fact that there is little I would have to do with the camaro to make it a fun daily drivin street king..ie basic bolt ons. The Evo however is an outstanding vehice on its own, but after owning two turbo cars Ive learend that the boost bug always comes at a price. Turbos are small part of an entire system. You just cant raise boost on the fly without having to worry about Knock, proper A/F ratios or if your plugs are gapped correctly ect ect. Little things such as those can cause big problems along the way if ignored. IMO 400+hp(to the wheels) with just adding I/H/E is way easier than taking the proper steps to run higher boost. In addition when it comes stock vs stock they are pretty close but the 2010 camaro is just plain sexy.