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Q'smuscle · 12-04-2014, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Synyster

That's a pretty ferocious little critter, if you ask me haha.

I love this car. If I didn't want a Z06 so much I'd heavily consider the Hellcat Challenger. Maybe not at a 25k markup though.

Maybe not at 25k markup? So you're saying that you probably would?

Q'smuscle · 12-04-2014, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by VOLmanTN

I dig the Hell Cat. And by all means let everyone go after this car! If you haven't noticed... the popularity of this and the new mustang have taken a toll on the stingrays resale value. I'm seeing loaded up ones going for low 50's now that were previously 75 new. Its no longer the flavor of the week.

What ? The 15 mustang taking Corvette sells? Not even! Better wait for the GT350..

ToolFan66 · 12-04-2014, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Coop1701

To me, any markup was not reasonable. That's why I waited for the Wow factor to die off. Their just doing it because they are hoping someone is stupid enough to walk in a pay it.

The sticker should have said..., 65,000 dollars and 25,000 dummy fee.

What are you talking about "you waited"? There hasn't been any unjust markup on the Camaro since the first year release, and the Z/28, you bought a 2014, the "WOW" factor has been gone long before 2014.

I bought mine new December 2010, my car is a 2011 2SS/RS, there was no stupid markups going on by that time nor was there any going on when the refreash came out..

DDJ-SX-SS · 12-05-2014, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Evergreen6

"Hell-NO"

Cool car. Stupid name. Makes me think of...

Cool car but not a stupid name if you know the history behinde it.
The cars name pays homage to one of the U.S. Navy's most fearsome World War Two fighter aircraft, the Grumman F6F Hellcat.

The Hellcat was designed to counter the Mitsubshi A6M Zero wich at the time was kicking the shit out of our older outdated Naval aircraft.
The Hellcat proved vastly superior to the Zero and secured air superiority for the allies in the pacific helping turn the tide of the war. The Hellcat had the highest kill ration of any allied naval aircraft in the entire war.

The F6F Hellcat was a feared and leathal machine, a total game changer at the time that brought a lot of pain to its adversary's. Guess that's why Dodge gave a nod to it in naming these cars.

el ess A · 12-05-2014, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ToolFan66

What are you talking about "you waited"? There hasn't been any unjust markup on the Camaro since the first year release, and the Z/28, you bought a 2014, the "WOW" factor has been gone long before 2014.

I bought mine new December 2010, my car is a 2011 2SS/RS, there was no stupid markups going on by that time nor was there any going on when the refreash came out..

I took it as he meant that he didn't jump on the bandwagon when the 5th gen came out and finally was ready to purchase one. 99% of Chevy dealers wanted some sort of markup on the cars. VERY few were honoring employee/supplier prices, even though the car was eligible. I bought with Classic Chevy because they sold me an order in May '09 for employee price. Car wasn't built until October, but hey, I saved around $5K off the MSRP that way.

No way in hell I'll ever pay markup on a car that is a "sell all we can make" vehicle. I might have paid MSRP once in my life for a new vehicle. Markups are for those with deep pockets and big egos.

benji276289 · 12-05-2014, 05:26 AM

The Hellcats are awesome but not awesome enough to pay $90,000 for. If I had that kind of money to spend, I'd add $15,000 and buy the 2015 Corvette.

DRKS1D3 · 12-05-2014, 06:16 AM

People with more money than brains. Keep searching, find a good dealer that doesn't gouge and buy it from them. If people would wake up, these marked-up cars would be sitting on lots until the tires were dry-rotted. Stick it in your rear!

RollaMo · 12-05-2014, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DRKS1D3

People with more money than brains. Keep searching, find a good dealer that doesn't gouge and buy it from them. If people would wake up, these marked-up cars would be sitting on lots until the tires were dry-rotted. Stick it in your rear!

It really isn't like that as much as you think.

You would be correct IF those people had to stretch their finances to the limit and take out a huge loan to get the car. Those people have no brains, but they really have no money either.

The people paying huge markups in order to be the first one to get their hands on one, have the money.
To these people, paying $50k - $100K on a new car is nothing.

This debate always brings out the "scum bag dealer" remarks.
But look at it like this: If you had a product that was in very high demand, and you could charge extra for it (because people would pay it), you would be taking advantage of that.
You are also correct that if people would stop paying it, the dealers would lower the price very quickly.
But that won't happen, so most of just have to wait it out.
Once the initial "rush" to have one of these cars is over, the price will come down.

Keep in mind, that there are a lot of people out there with lots of money.
It is just as easy for them to buy a $90k car as it is for you to buy a $20k car.

BGKySS · 12-05-2014, 07:05 AM

Hopefully someone will end up getting a deal on a hellcat
like I did on my SS.

My SS is an early production car. A local new import lot bought my car new, paid a small markup at the Chevy dealer and then they tacked on another mark up trying to make a quick flip. A YEAR later I bought the car with 43 miles on it for $31k. The dealer lost their ass!

BGKySS · 12-05-2014, 07:54 AM

Double post.

DRKS1D3 · 12-05-2014, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DRKS1D3

People with more money than brains. Keep searching, find a good dealer that doesn't gouge and buy it from them. If people would wake up, these marked-up cars would be sitting on lots until the tires were dry-rotted. Stick it in your rear!

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Originally Posted by RollaMo

It really isn't like that as much as you think.

You would be correct IF those people had to stretch their finances to the limit and take out a huge loan to get the car. Those people have no brains, but they really have no money either.

The people paying huge markups in order to be the first one to get their hands on one, have the money.
To these people, paying $50k - $100K on a new car is nothing.

This debate always brings out the "scum bag dealer" remarks.
But look at it like this: If you had a product that was in very high demand, and you could charge extra for it (because people would pay it), you would be taking advantage of that.
You are also correct that if people would stop paying it, the dealers would lower the price very quickly.
But that won't happen, so most of just have to wait it out.
Once the initial "rush" to have one of these cars is over, the price will come down.

Keep in mind, that there are a lot of people out there with lots of money.
It is just as easy for them to buy a $90k car as it is for you to buy a $20k car.

That is exactly what the saying "more money than brains" means. They may have an IQ of 188, but they'll still spend an extra $20k on a car that will depreciate just like any other car. When my Dad was looking for his '12 ZL1, every dealer around Pittsburgh wanted $10-15K over sticker. Could he have paid it? Sure. He chose to keep shopping around and found one a few hours away for $500 under sticker. Once again, some people have more money than brains. Hey, if someone has an extra $20k to throw down the toilet, good for them. I still think it is foolish.

Coop1701 · 12-05-2014, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ToolFan66

What are you talking about "you waited"? There hasn't been any unjust markup on the Camaro since the first year release, and the Z/28, you bought a 2014, the "WOW" factor has been gone long before 2014.

I bought mine new December 2010, my car is a 2011 2SS/RS, there was no stupid markups going on by that time nor was there any going on when the refreash came out..

That's not exactly what I meant on the WOW Factor. What I meant was I wanted one when the first came out. But my car was paid for. I told the Dealer he could keep it at the time. That he was under the impression I had to have a car and I didn't. I was content with my Mustang, but I could have bought one if wanted.

I just wanted several years, because I was Angry and the dealerships. Yes.. you are sooooo right. The wow factor has been gone for awhile. I meant AT THE TIME. So thanks for taking what I said out of context and trying to correct me.

RockerBox · 12-05-2014, 10:04 AM

All the Dodge sales managers I've talked to in the last 6 months told me, if you want a Hellcat wait till next model year. The first year of the Hellcats are going to be a limited run with the following year offering regular production numbers. (Many more available)

Typical Chrysler sales crap.

Scrappy Doo · 12-05-2014, 10:26 AM

I'd consider getting one if I could drive it more than 6 months a year..

That said, 25k is a huge markup and I would never pay it. But the "more money than brains" club has lots of members who have to be the first at having something.

I hate mark ups, and despise dealers for doing it. I can't blame them though, if someone wants to give that for a new one....take it.

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12-05-2014, 07:05 AM	#37
BGKySS Drives: Cyber Grey 2010 2SS RS Join Date: May 2012 Location: Hendersonville Tennessee Posts: 300	Hopefully someone will end up getting a deal on a hellcat like I did on my SS. My SS is an early production car. A local new import lot bought my car new, paid a small markup at the Chevy dealer and then they tacked on another mark up trying to make a quick flip. A YEAR later I bought the car with 43 miles on it for $31k. The dealer lost their ass! __________________ 2010 2SS/RS -Headers, catback, Holley Mid-rise and a 150 shot-

12-05-2014, 07:54 AM	#38
BGKySS Drives: Cyber Grey 2010 2SS RS Join Date: May 2012 Location: Hendersonville Tennessee Posts: 300	Double post. __________________ 2010 2SS/RS -Headers, catback, Holley Mid-rise and a 150 shot-

12-05-2014, 05:26 AM	#34
benji276289 Drives: 2021 Camaro 2SS1LE, 6 spd.man., Ora Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Roanoke County, Va. Posts: 1,154	The Hellcats are awesome but not awesome enough to pay $90,000 for. If I had that kind of money to spend, I'd add $15,000 and buy the 2015 Corvette.

12-05-2014, 10:04 AM	#41
RockerBox Drives: 2010 Silverado. Stock height now Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Springfield Va Posts: 307	All the Dodge sales managers I've talked to in the last 6 months told me, if you want a Hellcat wait till next model year. The first year of the Hellcats are going to be a limited run with the following year offering regular production numbers. (Many more available) Typical Chrysler sales crap.

12-05-2014, 10:26 AM	#42
Scrappy Doo Drives: Callaway Rogue Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: W8n 4 Snow, Minnesota Posts: 4,731	I'd consider getting one if I could drive it more than 6 months a year.. That said, 25k is a huge markup and I would never pay it. But the "more money than brains" club has lots of members who have to be the first at having something. I hate mark ups, and despise dealers for doing it. I can't blame them though, if someone wants to give that for a new one....take it.