Looking to make some improvements

[Mgomez37]

What's up guys,

Looking to make some mods on my camaro now that ive been working and have a little money to put into it. Im caught between changing out my stock hood with a new one and if so which one to pick or getting a new set of speakers for my car. Not sure what good speaker brands are for cars so i want to make sure that i buy a good set of speakers. I work at best buy so i have access to some discounts on some alpine, kicker, infinity, jbl, polk, and pioneer speakers. If there are better speakers out there than id be fine spending more on them. Just looking for some feedback on good speaker companies/models. And whether a new hood or new speakers is a better move.

Thanks

[Knockoutpie]

Originally Posted by Mgomez37

What's up guys,

Looking to make some mods on my camaro now that ive been working and have a little money to put into it. Im caught between changing out my stock hood with a new one and if so which one to pick or getting a new set of speakers for my car. Not sure what good speaker brands are for cars so i want to make sure that i buy a good set of speakers. I work at best buy so i have access to some discounts on some alpine, kicker, infinity, jbl, polk, and pioneer speakers. If there are better speakers out there than id be fine spending more on them. Just looking for some feedback on good speaker companies/models. And whether a new hood or new speakers is a better move.

Thanks

Back when there was an Alpine Accommodation that was the way to go, now your best bet is to use the Kicker accommodation (seeing how it's 70% with that)

Go with the KS series 6.5 in front and 6x9 in back

LMK. I have an entire price sheet of all accommodations. Just shoot me a PM and i'll give you our prices.

[ntmad8tr]

I know it wasn't one of your two choices but if you haven't gotten a catch can, i would buy one of those first and install it then go from there.

[Mgomez37]

Originally Posted by ntmad8tr

I know it wasn't one of your two choices but if you haven't gotten a catch can, i would buy one of those first and install it then go from there.

Every time i post in here i have suggestions about a catch can. Is it something that is really worth getting before i do anything else? just wondering what are the key perks to having one and if i were to get one whats a good one to get. Sorry first car really into cars but when it gets down to stuff like this not really sure what the key additions are.

[stoopid]

Originally Posted by Mgomez37

Every time i post in here i have suggestions about a catch can. Is it something that is really worth getting before i do anything else? just wondering what are the key perks to having one and if i were to get one whats a good one to get. Sorry first car really into cars but when it gets down to stuff like this not really sure what the key additions are.

I'm not sure it will make much of a difference for average Joe drivers like us. It's not a performance mod, just helps eliminate crappy oil from remaining in the engine (isn't that what the oil filter is for? lol).



Here's the links to my stereo build. I only added new tweeters to the doors and all-in-one small boxed sub in the trunk. Couple hours total for the install.

Sub:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Tweeters:

http://www.amazon.com/JL-AUDIO-C2-07...pr_product_top

Keep in mind you have to use a hot glue gun to mount the tweeters ($20 home depot). It's not a beginner's job, at least not for someone who's all thumbs. Quick connects also help a lot, especially when splicing into the rear speakers for the sub signal. Additionally, you'll need a battery kit for power to the sub. Everything together cost ~$350, which is a steal for the vast improvement it made in sound quality.

A 10" sub is fine for most music, but for heavy bass (dub step, metal) you will want something bigger. Unfortunately bigger complicates the install due to minimal clearance in the trunk behind the seat and doubles the price for proper mounting, larger sub, and larger amp.

[Mgomez37]

Originally Posted by stoopid

I'm not sure it will make much of a difference for average Joe drivers like us. It's not a performance mod, just helps eliminate crappy oil from remaining in the engine (isn't that what the oil filter is for? lol).



Here's the links to my stereo build. I only added new tweeters to the doors and all-in-one small boxed sub in the trunk. Couple hours total for the install.

Sub:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Tweeters:

http://www.amazon.com/JL-AUDIO-C2-07...pr_product_top

Keep in mind you have to use a hot glue gun to mount the tweeters ($20 home depot). It's not a beginner's job, at least not for someone who's all thumbs. Quick connects also help a lot, especially when splicing into the rear speakers for the sub signal. Additionally, you'll need a battery kit for power to the sub. Everything together cost ~$350, which is a steal for the vast improvement it made in sound quality.

A 10" sub is fine for most music, but for heavy bass (dub step, metal) you will want something bigger. Unfortunately bigger complicates the install due to minimal clearance in the trunk behind the seat and doubles the price for proper mounting, larger sub, and larger amp.

thanks for the feedback...

Do you know if im going to need a processor too? i went to a car audio place and talked to people at work and they were talking about having one which would add another dent to my wallet, never knew much about this if you know anything about i thatd be great

[ntmad8tr]

Originally Posted by stoopid

I'm not sure it will make much of a difference for average Joe drivers like us. It's not a performance mod, just helps eliminate crappy oil from remaining in the engine (isn't that what the oil filter is for? lol)

Umm..an oil filter filters the oil that is circulated from the oil pan into the engine and removes metal shavings and any debris. The catch can is hooked up to the exhaust line that takes normally takes a suction from the exhausted gasses from the cylinders and in there you find oil. Well these gasses and oils are fed back into the intake of your engine so they can be burnt up in the detonation cycle. Problem is this oil craps up your intake. The catch can is put inline to catch(filter) out the oils and only allow the gasses to go back into your intake. Preventing carbon build up on your intake engine parts. This problem exists for any driver from the average driver to the extreme drag/auto x driver because it is how the car manufacturers clean up the exhaust. I have gotten 3-4 ozs out of mine each time I have emptied it, which i do when I get the oil changed.

[stoopid]

Originally Posted by ntmad8tr

Umm..an oil filter filters the oil that is circulated from the oil pan into the engine and removes metal shavings and any debris. The catch can is hooked up to the exhaust line that takes normally takes a suction from the exhausted gasses from the cylinders and in there you find oil. Well these gasses and oils are fed back into the intake of your engine so they can be burnt up in the detonation cycle. Problem is this oil craps up your intake. The catch can is put inline to catch(filter) out the oils and only allow the gasses to go back into your intake. Preventing carbon build up on your intake engine parts. This problem exists for any driver from the average driver to the extreme drag/auto x driver because it is how the car manufacturers clean up the exhaust. I have gotten 3-4 ozs out of mine each time I have emptied it, which i do when I get the oil changed.

What are the implications for not doing it? Why isn't this part of the factory engine build?

[stoopid]

Originally Posted by Mgomez37

thanks for the feedback...

Do you know if im going to need a processor too? i went to a car audio place and talked to people at work and they were talking about having one which would add another dent to my wallet, never knew much about this if you know anything about i thatd be great

Not sure about any "processor". The sub I linked to has all the electronics you need to tap into the rear speaker lines with ease, both for utilizing the sound signal from the speaker lines (no LOC needed), amplification of the sub, and auto power on/off.

My local stereo shop also quoted something in excess of $1k to get me less performance than I'm getting for $350 (which is why I ended up researching and doing it myself). They're not a charity, so expect the worse as you always should from sales professionals.

[ntmad8tr]

Originally Posted by stoopid

What are the implications for not doing it? Why isn't this part of the factory engine build?

This is from the Apex thread on their catch cans. But I hope it answers your question.


Modern engines feature a variety of emission control devices and systems to reduce the toxic gases released into the atmosphere. One of these is called the Positive Crankcase Ventilation (PCV) system. During the combustion process a small amount of gases leak or "blow-by" the piston rings and create a positive pressure in the crankcase. This gas is made up of all kinds of nasty stuff like unburnt fuel, oil, water, carbon particles, and even sulfuric acid. The PCV system vents these gases from the crankcase and routes it back into the intake manifold so it can be burned off. The problem is that over time the excess oil vapor collects along the inside of the intake tract and forms carbon build up. Some gasoline commercials refer to it as "gunk". This can lead to a variety of issues including retarded timing, detonation, reduced fuel economy, and power loss.

[stoopid]

Originally Posted by ntmad8tr

This is from the Apex thread on their catch cans. But I hope it answers your question.


Modern engines feature a variety of emission control devices and systems to reduce the toxic gases released into the atmosphere. One of these is called the Positive Crankcase Ventilation (PCV) system. During the combustion process a small amount of gases leak or "blow-by" the piston rings and create a positive pressure in the crankcase. This gas is made up of all kinds of nasty stuff like unburnt fuel, oil, water, carbon particles, and even sulfuric acid. The PCV system vents these gases from the crankcase and routes it back into the intake manifold so it can be burned off. The problem is that over time the excess oil vapor collects along the inside of the intake tract and forms carbon build up. Some gasoline commercials refer to it as "gunk". This can lead to a variety of issues including retarded timing, detonation, reduced fuel economy, and power loss.

Thanks for the info. How many miles until this becomes a problem? Every mechanical system has "buildup" in its components, it's part of it being a mechanical device.

It sounds a little like snake oil to me, as they offer something that has a nominal benefit. "Take these pills AND EXERCISE and you'll lose weight". According to this page, oil changes are the most critical thing that can be done (in particular to this buildup) to ensure engine performance and prolong its life....

http://www.agcoauto.com/content/news/p2_articleid/197

I believe the majority of the sludge captured with the catch can would get burned away in the recycling/recirculating process. So while you're snagging it before recycling takes place, it doesn't indicate an issue since it was supposed to be there (and you're removing it before that system can dispose of it/burn it off). Yes?