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SixSpeeder · 03-24-2015, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TLSTWIN

Please stop spreading misinformation about the warranty, read your owner's manual and warranty info if you want the truth.

From the link that you seem to think trumps your owner's manual:

"Important Words About This Web Site
We try to make this web site comprehensive and factual. We reserve the right, however, to make changes at any time, without notice. Your vehicle may differ due to variations in manufacture and equipment. Since information is continuously being updated..."

L99CAMA2011 · 03-24-2015, 06:27 PM

I think equipment so fresh in it's life should be warranted unless he was doing burn outs for hours or bouncing off the limiter like an amateur.

TLSTWIN · 03-24-2015, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SixSpeeder

Read your owner's manual and warranty info, track use may void your warranty.

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Originally Posted by SixSpeeder

"Important Words About This Web Site
We try to make this web site comprehensive and factual. We reserve the right, however, to make changes at any time, without notice. Your vehicle may differ due to variations in manufacture and equipment. Since information is continuously being updated..."

X25 · 03-24-2015, 07:16 PM

I'm sure GM will honor the warranty, especially if everything is stock in powertrain. They always did as far as I can remember in Corvette Forum.

Skylane765 · 03-24-2015, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeb114

I have said from the beginning the LS7 is a warmed up Street motor, Chevy's hype has made people think this car is an all out racer. You can buy this motor from jegs for what $13,000. Lets see, a real race motor say a Nascar motor is $100,000. Chevy pulled a fast one with this car. and the price. That's why there are so many sitting in dealers lots for the past 2 years.

The Z28 has only been out for 1 year now, there was not one for sale on a lot 13 months ago.

ForcFed93 · 03-24-2015, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TLSTWIN

I'm sorry but you're still wrong.

http://www.chevrolet.com/content/dam...wm2ndprint.pdf

Please read page 10. This is all that matters as this is the warranty manual itself. Not the owners manual, not a salesman, not an engineer. There are no specific clauses or addendums for the Z/28 or ZL1 either.

The warranty does not cover damage due to "misuse of the vehicle due to driving over curbs, overloading, racing, or other competition use." In plain English.

However, I'm certain the dealers have the latitude to be generous on certain models if they choose. Which I hope is the case for OP.

90503 · 03-24-2015, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SixSpeeder

That website link is not the complete owner's manual or warranty info:

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Originally Posted by ForcFed93

I'm sorry but you're still wrong.

http://www.chevrolet.com/content/dam...wm2ndprint.pdf

Please read page 10. This is all that matters as this is the warranty manual itself. Not the owners manual, not a salesman, not an engineer. There are no specific clauses or addendums for the Z/28 or ZL1 either.

The warranty does not cover damage due to "misuse of the vehicle due to driving over curbs, overloading, racing, or other competition use." In plain English.

However, I'm certain the dealers have the latitude to be generous on certain models if they choose. Which I hope is the case for OP.

I can't help but wonder why if there is no warranty coverage for track use, does the owner's manual include instructions how to prep for the track with engine oil, brake fluid, etc....Does it say somewhere in there if you follow the track prep recommendations you also void your warranty?

*mlee* · 03-24-2015, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Doubleblank

I'll repeat what was told to me by two dealers. They focus on the terms "racing or competitive driving may affect the warranty." In other words , don't go enter any "track attack" type events, etc. But both said that simply driving on a track does not void their obligations under the warranty. They also both said they will look at the damage and seek it's cause, if possible. If there's evidence you missed a couple of downshifts and over revved the motor, you've given them an opening to reject any warranty claim.

My discussions with each dealer were in the context of "I am definitely going to take this car to the track. I won't race it or enter any competitive events. Will that void warranty work on the engine?" Both answered "No, but......." The reason I wanted to know is, if the warranty was getting voided anyway, I was going head first into modding the car with either heads, headers and a tune or pull the original motor intact and install a built motor.

Explained very well right here.^^^ Hope the OP gets fixed up

1KillerSS · 03-24-2015, 10:09 PM

Bottom line is that there is enough verbiage in GM's documentation that says they really -can do what they want. Ferrari's F-40 and Porsche's Carrera gt dont get a track warranty. I mean lets hontstly look at how much purpose built racing parts fail, that were built and designed strictly for racing. How many cars drop out of a track event or race with mechanical failures. If you honestly think that GM has taken the stance and said "we got you its covered", don't worry well warranty it for you. your in full flight from reality.

JeffInDFW · 03-25-2015, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeb114

I have said from the beginning the LS7 is a warmed up Street motor, Chevy's hype has made people think this car is an all out racer. You can buy this motor from jegs for what $13,000. Lets see, a real race motor say a Nascar motor is $100,000. Chevy pulled a fast one with this car. and the price. That's why there are so many sitting in dealers lots for the past 2 years.

Posts like this one are why not everyone should be allowed to have internet access.

X25 · 03-25-2015, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by JeffInDFW

Posts like this one are why not everyone should be allowed to have internet access.

Agreed, a design flaw does not mean anything is cheap. Actually, not at all.

kevint · 03-25-2015, 10:42 AM

Hopefully OP's warranty will stand. From an engineering and life cycle management perspective, warranty work allows R&D and Operations to determine the cause of the issue above and beyond the physical manifestation of the failure.

The individuals who flat-out refuse to bring their vehicles in for warranty work do a greater disservice because, to the knowledge of the manufacturer, nothing ever went wrong with their design.

MARKSTI · 03-25-2015, 08:41 PM

The dealers working with me on the fix..they were able to confirm that the car has some problems..I am gonna keep quiet till this is sorted, but the cars in currently in for repair.

Dropspeed · 03-25-2015, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MARKSTI

The dealers working with me on the fix..they were able to confirm that the car has some problems..I am gonna keep quiet till this is sorted, but the cars in currently in for repair.

You're playing it smart..... I don't post anything warranty or insurance related until after it is resolved if at all...

03-24-2015, 07:16 PM	#46
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1KillerSS Too much is never enough! Drives: AGP TT SS [COTW] 4/20/15 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 4,149 View My Garage	Bottom line is that there is enough verbiage in GM's documentation that says they really -can do what they want. Ferrari's F-40 and Porsche's Carrera gt dont get a track warranty. I mean lets hontstly look at how much purpose built racing parts fail, that were built and designed strictly for racing. How many cars drop out of a track event or race with mechanical failures. If you honestly think that GM has taken the stance and said "we got you its covered", don't worry well warranty it for you. your in full flight from reality. __________________ AGP TT kit, 54/57 Forged rotating assembly, Custom grind cam... Dual nozzle meth, ID850's, Livernois dual fuel pumps, ECS BAP, 25% UDP, 3 inch Magnaflow catback with X pipe, Mantic 9000 clutch, DSS 1000hp axles, DSS aluminum driveshaft, ZL1 rear end, solid subframe bushings, HE differential offset bushings, BMR Trailing arm, BMR toe rods, Lingenfelter LNC-2000,SJM Line Lock. 747 whp 714wtq *Build thread* http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...55#post8107855

03-24-2015, 06:27 PM	#44
L99CAMA2011 Drives: One of the baddest handling Gen 5s Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Masachusetts Posts: 4,177	I think equipment so fresh in it's life should be warranted unless he was doing burn outs for hours or bouncing off the limiter like an amateur.

03-25-2015, 10:42 AM	#54
kevint Drives: 2013 1SS Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: New Jersey Posts: 745	Hopefully OP's warranty will stand. From an engineering and life cycle management perspective, warranty work allows R&D and Operations to determine the cause of the issue above and beyond the physical manifestation of the failure. The individuals who flat-out refuse to bring their vehicles in for warranty work do a greater disservice because, to the knowledge of the manufacturer, nothing ever went wrong with their design.

03-25-2015, 08:41 PM	#55
MARKSTI Drives: 2015 z28 sold Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: As Posts: 80	The dealers working with me on the fix..they were able to confirm that the car has some problems..I am gonna keep quiet till this is sorted, but the cars in currently in for repair.