Used Z/28 For Sale Already

[macwest]

Originally Posted by hotlapZL1

I did a search on Autotrader for new, any distance and hit 587 cars. I still think the Z/28 will be a sought after car in the future. It is so pure and badass.

Remember that dealers converted Superbirds to Roadrunners to move them when new. You just can't be a short term owner and not get killed but that goes for any car

it may be in 20+ years but that wont help it now. If when it first came out it was high 50's I doubt there would be many sitting now. But with the 6th gen just around the corner, new corvettes, new mustang out, shelby coming and new challengers why spend mid 70,s on a stripped down camaro? Honestly you are better spending a little more and getting a z06 corvette.

[KaBoom1701]

I'll give it a year a two and then pick up a used one around 45-50k.

[macwest]

Originally Posted by KaBoom1701

I'll give it a year a two and then pick up a used one around 45-50k.

You may find a new one still. I was looking around and found 2 new hot wheels camaros from 2013 in mid 30's. had a hard time passing that up.

[sonnydurden]

Originally Posted by macwest

it may be in 20+ years but that wont help it now. If when it first came out it was high 50's I doubt there would be many sitting now. But with the 6th gen just around the corner, new corvettes, new mustang out, shelby coming and new challengers why spend mid 70,s on a stripped down camaro? Honestly you are better spending a little more and getting a z06 corvette.

Stripped down Camaro??? The Z28 has many options.. Maybe not your typical options, but many options.

[PYROLYSIS]

Originally Posted by sonnydurden

Stripped down Camaro??? The Z28 has many options.. Maybe not your typical options, but many options.

Actually it only has one option, air conditioning and it comes with a sound system. That's pretty stripped down by modern standards. If you're talking performance equipment, which is standard, then it's loaded.

[sonnydurden]

Originally Posted by PYROLYSIS

Actually it only has one option, air conditioning and it comes with a sound system. That's pretty stripped down by modern standards. If you're talking performance equipment, which is standard, then it's loaded.

That's what I mean.. I just hate when people say it's stripped down.. It's fully loaded for what it was made for - the track. And at $70k it's really a steal. I have a friend that has a 911 GT3 that he uses just for the track.. And that's north of $130k and the Z28 can hang with it!!

[macwest]

Originally Posted by sonnydurden

That's what I mean.. I just hate when people say it's stripped down.. It's fully loaded for what it was made for - the track. And at $70k it's really a steal. I have a friend that has a 911 GT3 that he uses just for the track.. And that's north of $130k and the Z28 can hang with it!!

However the 911 GT3 is a awesome car. I you look at a base z06 corvette it is about 10K more, then a z28, It has better performance and handling and also many more creature comforts. I do understand the z28 is great for performance but , I believe, most people in buying a car do not look at just performance.

[sh233252]

Originally Posted by macwest

However the 911 GT3 is a awesome car. I you look at a base z06 corvette it is about 10K more, then a z28, It has better performance and handling and also many more creature comforts. Most people in buying a car do not look at just performance.

And most people who buy THIS car do look at that. This car was not built for "most" people. And who buy it, enjoy it. The z/28 has extras that both the gt3 and the vette don't have standard (or at all) and that's the Brakes and the suspension which aren't cheap and help make the Z what it is today. This isn't a vette or a gt3, its a FREAKIN' CAMARO!

[hotlap]

Originally Posted by sh233252

And most people who buy THIS car do look at that. This car was not built for "most" people. And who buy it, enjoy it. The z/28 has extras that both the gt3 and the vette don't have standard (or at all) and that's the Brakes and the suspension which aren't cheap and help make the Z what it is today. This isn't a vette or a gt3, its a FREAKIN' CAMARO!

It's a badass Camaro and you sir have the best color combo IMO.

[RSZ]

Interesting thread. Been lurking from for awhile. A couple of real life observations:

- First hand experience tells me that all of the numbers being thrown around mean nothing. Here is why:

1.- When I was searching for for a Z there were hundreds listed on Cars.com, Autotrader, eBay and CarGurus. Over 1/3 were sold or already delivered when I inquired. So the database is not updated regularly. This is the responsibility of the dealership.

2.- Having come from another manufacture and regularly utilizing the search database, they are even more out of date than the .com sites. The vehicles are not automatically deleted when sold. Someone at the dealership must physically delete the unit from stock.

Based on the above it is more probably between the 400-700 number realistically.

On price, it definitely was way to pricey for the market. But savy shoppers worked the December deal and came out under $55,000 for new Z/28's. All years. That was the steal of the year. That is a fact.

On the end of year 20% event? There may be a similar event this year and there will be dealers who held the Z/28's for MSRP and ADM's but the majority will be gone.

The lesson, if there is one here is to be patient and keep your eye out for the "inventory liquidation" sales at the end of the year for an outdated, overpriced, kick ass Camaro

[sonnydurden]

Originally Posted by macwest

However the 911 GT3 is a awesome car. I you look at a base z06 corvette it is about 10K more, then a z28, It has better performance and handling and also many more creature comforts. I do understand the z28 is great for performance but , I believe, most people in buying a car do not look at just performance.

True.. The average Joe needs comfort and amenities!! I believe GM marketed the Z28 very well, catering to a very specific group. I also do believe the reason many used Z28 are showing up because some buyers realized that they are not as track hard core as they thought. That's why there is a ZL1.

[johnr265]

Originally Posted by macwest

However the 911 GT3 is a awesome car. I you look at a base z06 corvette it is about 10K more, then a z28, It has better performance and handling and also many more creature comforts. I do understand the z28 is great for performance but , I believe, most people in buying a car do not look at just performance.

I'd be shocked if you could get a Z06 for about 10K more. Basic ones without the carbon package are mid 90's. most are optioned to 100k or over. Little to no discount right now. A comparably equiped Z06 (OK, it has more of the comfort doo-dads but comparable performance wise) is going to be minimum 20-30k difference. Even for someone shopping in this price range, you don't just pony up that difference for nothing. That is a very nice family or winter beater difference in price and you can still have your track friendly supercar. Just a thought from someone who could afford both but went with the Z28.

[macwest]

Originally Posted by sh233252

And most people who buy THIS car do look at that. This car was not built for "most" people. And who buy it, enjoy it. The z/28 has extras that both the gt3 and the vette don't have standard (or at all) and that's the Brakes and the suspension which aren't cheap and help make the Z what it is today. This isn't a vette or a gt3, its a FREAKIN' CAMARO!

yep it is.... guess, based on its price, that is why so many are sitting.

Originally Posted by johnr265

I'd be shocked if you could get a Z06 for about 10K more. Basic ones without the carbon package are mid 90's. most are optioned to 100k or over. Little to no discount right now. A comparably equiped Z06 (OK, it has more of the comfort doo-dads but comparable performance wise) is going to be minimum 20-30k difference. Even for someone shopping in this price range, you don't just pony up that difference for nothing. That is a very nice family or winter beater difference in price and you can still have your track friendly supercar. Just a thought from someone who could afford both but went with the Z28.

The z06 my daughter is trying to get me to buy would run me 88 + tax and license. for me, I have a hard time committing on anything new since i am very happy with 10 camaro and there are so many choices coming available over the next months.

[sh233252]

Originally Posted by macwest

yep it is.... guess, based on its price, that is why so many are sitting.

They are not a deal at the MSRP, but lucky for anyone living in the USA you have plenty to choose from. Here in Canada, if you are lucky enough to know of one coming to or is at a dealer, You better jump on it quickly.

If it's creature comforts that makes or breaks it for you, this car was never meant for you. I love this car cause I don't like a bunch of creature comforts, I like simple and I would never buy a vette or gt3. Not saying they are not great cars, but they aren't for me, and that's why this Camaro is only for a small % of car enthusiasts.

You have to appreciate what this car has done and is going to do for muscle/sports (and even super) cars in the near future. That the Camaro is being mentioned in the same sentence as the vette, gt3 and numerous other much more expensive cars is awesome.