8 & 9 year old human garbage likely totaled my car

[13vertss]

Originally Posted by Cam_Cam

It's illegal to hit your wife, it's illegal to hit your dog, it's illegal to hit a stranger in a bar, but go ahead and beat the shit out of your kids. Welcome to America.

It blows my mind how America centric some of you are. We have the highest incarceration rate in the civilized world, and we still lead or are near the top in violent crime ststistics.

And you guys want to give up hope and assume that an 8 and 9 year old can never lead a productive life. And some how the people fighting against that mentality are getting called idiots. It's absolutely astounding.

Keep hitting your kids. Keep putting people in jail. How bad do we need to beat our kids before the school shootings stop?

There's a big difference in spanking a kid and beating one. No one here is saying beat you kid. A good spanking never hurt anyone other then pride. There are some examples of kids who don't get spanked doing well, but the majority are the ones we see all over the news. Parents are just getting to soft on punishment, and what we see in society is the results of it imho.

[BigBlock69RS]

Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

We didn't have this problem so extensively either 40 years ago, so what has changed? Think about it.

Crime rate has actually significantly dropped, And yes this still happened in the old days you just didn't hear about it.

Where as today there are so many ways that get this info out. What is changed is there are many more people than before or even thou shit happens less in relation to population since there are so many more people and with the ease reporting it you hear about shit way more.

Sorry op this happened to you, really awful hopefully your insurance makes it right.

[pickwithaustin]

Originally Posted by Cam_Cam

And remember that, unlike your kids, these kids will most likely never live a happy full life, entirely because they were unlucky enough to be born to shitty parents.

Exactly. At least someone understands the concept of ROOT CAUSE.

[rontammy0]

Here folks...this will lighten the mood.....i posted this before. I think alot of camaro 5 members were like this guy as children. I say that as a complimant.
https://youtu.be/TP8RB7UZHKI

[ChocoTaco369]

Future murderers, rapists, thieves and welfare-sucking leeches of America. They say violence against children is wrong. I say it depends on the context.

This is just a constant reminder that you can do everything right - work hard, treat people fairly, invest your money wisely and lead a law-abiding, decent life and all it takes is some prick to decide he gets joy out of your suffering to take it all away. Disgusting. Life is too easy these days. Natural selection no longer exists.

[Cam_Cam]

Originally Posted by 13vertss/r's

There's a big difference in spanking a kid and beating one. No one here is saying beat you kid. A good spanking never hurt anyone other then pride. There are some examples of kids who don't get spanked doing well, but the majority are the ones we see all over the news. Parents are just getting to soft on punishment, and what we see in society is the results of it imho.

The majority of the kids you see on the news aren't there because they didn't get spanked enough, they're there because they have crap family structures. These two kids parents are in jail, they couldn't track down the grandma (the legal guardian). Do you really think "spanking" kids like these would help anything?

[Cam_Cam]

Originally Posted by ChocoTaco369

Future murderers, rapists, thieves and welfare-sucking leeches of America. They say violence against children is wrong. I say it depends on the context.

Let me ask you this, would you ever hit a woman? How about a dog?

[Dizzy82]

Sorry for the hell your going through OP. IBTL.

[Iron Lung Jimmy]

Originally Posted by BigBlock69RS

Crime rate has actually significantly dropped, And yes this still happened in the old days you just didn't hear about it.

Where as today there are so many ways that get this info out. What is changed is there are many more people than before or even thou shit happens less in relation to population since there are so many more people and with the ease reporting it you hear about shit way more.

Sorry op this happened to you, really awful hopefully your insurance makes it right.

This.

Back 40 years ago if some guy in Kentucky got his car vandalized nobody outside of a very small radius would know. The rest of us would go about living happily.

Now it happens and, literally, the whole world can know about it instantly. Multiply that by however many random occurrences and since you hear about all of them it seems like society is collapsing.

It always happened... you just didn't know.

[CamaroCracka]

Originally Posted by ST1LE

Are you implying people are genetically predisposed to commit crimes? I hope not!

In a way yes. People who commit crime, at least those that get caught, tend to have lower than average IQ. Addiction is also a huge factor in the likelihood someone will get incarcerated and genetic predisposition to addiction is well documented. Some people are just screwed out of the starting blocks and it can't be fixed by anyone but them. Well, and God for the non-atheists in the crowd.

Originally Posted by Cam_Cam

I just assumed no one could possibly be ignorant enough to suggest that, and as such, it had to be a joke.

There we go trying to take the intellectual high ground on a topic you are obvious ill informed about, like most of your posts. "I can't believe everybody does not believe my BS, so they must be dumber than me." You don't even live in reality. I can just about guarantee without even talking to you that you believe things to be fact that are mutually exclusive of each other. But its ok, hope your move to the Detroit inner city works out.

[Cam_Cam]

Originally Posted by CamaroCracka

In a way yes. People who commit crime, at least those that get caught, tend to have lower than average IQ. Addiction is also a huge factor in the likelihood someone will get incarcerated and genetic predisposition to addiction is well documented. Some people are just screwed out of the starting blocks and it can't be fixed by anyone but them. Well, and God for the non-atheists in the crowd.

Genetic predisposition to addiction is well documented, but genetic predisposition to a lower IQ is not. Why don't you just say exactly what we all know you what to say?

[Drumminxx]

Originally Posted by pickwithaustin

No, I won't stop.
Why don't YOU go beat your kids into submission..?
Brain = doing a little homework before you spout off.
Nuff said. Get to beating.

Wow...do you realize that spanking and beating is not the same thing? No one said anything about condoning child abuse but now your on here telling some guy to go beat his kids and then tell him to use his brain before he speaks. Maybe you should take your own advice and think before you post.

[CamaroCracka]

Originally Posted by Cam_Cam

Genetic predisposition to addiction is well documented, but genetic predisposition to a lower IQ is not. Why don't you just say exactly what we all know you what to say?

Since when do smart parents not beget smart children. You're so full of it.

Originally Posted by Beardface

You actually think people don't believe that?

You clearly haven't spent any time in the South... Even here in NC (and surprisingly, in some of the most liberal parts, it gets worse) that kind of thinking is prevalent. Publicly said, no, but get behind closed doors and the mouths start running.

And you assume I'm talking about race, which I'll cut you some slack on that because of my user name, but much as people try to deny it, a lot of the problems an individual will face in life are related to his/her DNA. Fat parents tend to have fat kids with all the issues that come with that; if mom and dad are dumb, the kids probably aren't getting into Harvard; if the parents are 5'3" the kids aren't going to the NFL or NBA.

[pickwithaustin]

There are two groups of thought here (and yes, we all deserve our opinions so I will list them):

1. Those who think that spanking a kid will absolutely make them a good person
and
2. Those who noticed that the kids family is more than likely the root cause of the problem and that the real solution would be to address the cause itself.

Now you can side with whichever of these two you wish, but as someone else said in here... if you side with #1, then if your wife misbehaves, do you think a spanking should be the proper corrective action to put her back in her place? I mean, it can't only work just for kids, right?

Nuff said.