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04-28-2015, 09:57 PM
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 Drives: 2013 Camaro SS LS3 2SS/RS. Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: EL Campo, Texas
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Stock fuel pump and injectors not enough for E-Force supercharger
I have a E-Force supercharger, Roto-Fab CAI, Kooks 1 7/8th long tube catted headers, Borla ATAK exhaust on a 2013 Camaro 2SS RS. Went to get it dynoed and a tune and on the second pull had to stop due to it running to lean. The injectors and fuel pump was not feeding it enough fuel. The timing was on 7 which was way off and boost was at 11lbs. Still pulled 520 rwhp. Car now is at the shop getting the ZL1 fuel pump, ID 850 injectors and ADM fuel control model installed then back to the dyno and tuned. Was told it will be a completely different running engine once it's done. Anybody have the same problem with the injectors and pump?
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04-28-2015, 10:07 PM
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Drives: 2014 Saleen 620 White Label #14-011 Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: AL
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Kinda crazy they even tried running it at 11psi on stock pump and injectors...
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'14 Saleen 620 White Label #14-011
ADM LSA Stage 1 Kit, ADM 2.75 Pulley, DEKA 63lb injectors, ZL1 Fuel Pump, JLT 123MM Big Mouth intake, TSP 2" LTHs, BW TB, 2.5" Catback, Scott Culbert/GEN3PERF tuned! 573WHP/557WTQ @ 10psi. Build Thread Here: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=390708  |
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04-28-2015, 11:33 PM
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Drives: [COTW 8/3/15] 2010 Camaro SS L99 Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Mooresville NC
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I'm getting mine done Tuesday. I'm running shortys, cats, axle back and CAI. I'm guessing ill fair better than you did with the LT and full exhaust. Did you have high flow cats?
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04-29-2015, 12:37 AM
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Drives: 2013 Camaro SS LS3 2SS/RS. Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: EL Campo, Texas
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I did have borla shorties, then switched to Long Tubes with high flow cats. My opinion is that the stock manifold is better than the shorties. After removing the shorties they look smaller in circumference than the stock take offs, just my opinion.
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04-29-2015, 12:40 AM
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Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Vance Alabama
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Im at 12psi and cam swap and need more than LPE twins.
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2015 2SS 1LE Clutch reservoir, Vararam DRX, ported TB, TSP 2" headers, MGW shifter, stage 4 cam and Wilkes 11° 65cc heads Totalled: 2010 1SS Wilkes Performance/Eagle 416 shortblock, TSP custom valvetrain, PRC 260 heads, Edelbrock Pro Flo 102, th400 swap, 8" PTC 5500 stall= 535/435 at the wheels tuned Gen 3 Performance and Dyno 10.97 @ 124 full weight in 3100 DA CamaroFest X |
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04-30-2015, 01:23 PM
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Drives: 2010 Camaro Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: United States
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I have had no fuel issues since upgrading.
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05-11-2015, 11:38 AM
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 Drives: 2016 SS Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: DFW
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with that being said i did same route and had to go to the livernois after wasting the money for Zl1.. I now need a squash or fore since I want e85 so if u want to cancel that setup I can sell you my 850s and livernois pump injectors are less than a year and pump is 3 mos old.. pm me
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05-11-2015, 02:15 PM
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Drives: 2010 2SS, 2017 Silverado LTZ Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Denver,PA
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I had the same problem since I had LT headers on the car before the E-Force. I ran out of fuel at 6500. I added the ZL1 fuel pump and 72# injectors and every thing runs great now.
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05-11-2015, 02:34 PM
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LSX Bumblebee
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Nice numbers
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05-11-2015, 04:25 PM
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Too much is never enough!
Drives: AGP TT SS [COTW] 4/20/15 Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Toledo,OH
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AGP TT kit, 54/57 Forged rotating assembly, Custom grind cam... Dual nozzle meth, ID850's, Livernois dual fuel pumps, ECS BAP, 25% UDP, 3 inch Magnaflow catback with X pipe, Mantic 9000 clutch, DSS 1000hp axles, DSS aluminum driveshaft, ZL1 rear end, solid subframe bushings, HE differential offset bushings, BMR Trailing arm, BMR toe rods, Lingenfelter LNC-2000,SJM Line Lock. 747 whp 714wtq
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05-12-2015, 01:07 AM
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Don't the 13 camaros come stock with the zl1 pump? Mine did but it's a 14 ss
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05-14-2015, 06:58 AM
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Drives: Anything I want Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: DfW - Texas
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Only ZL1 and 1LE |
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05-14-2015, 07:16 AM
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My car is not a 1le or Zl1 and has the Zl1 pump. Guess they just did it in 2014.
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05-14-2015, 07:52 PM
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Drives: 2013 Camaro SS LS3 2SS/RS. Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: EL Campo, Texas
Posts: 9
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Well the ID 850's, ZL1 fuel pump, and ADM FMC installed and got the tune and dynoed today. Pulled 558 rwhp. I was hoping for around 600 after spending 2k on parts and labor for 30 more horsepower from when it was dynoed with the stock fuel pump, injectors. Was told the E-Force generates so much heat that it was to much of a risk to go any higher on HP.
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