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SeaCompiler · 10-06-2015, 01:26 PM

You can ignore the Snopes post - it was a silly ref to the current fake photo of a shark swimming down the street in SC due to the weather - I live near ATL. Anyways, I have seen the other posts, and the excellent rebuttal from Janetty which states it is likely only a 5 hp increase. Granatelli claims an average of 5 HP for N/A and 12-15 for FI, so this is in line. I will be installing a supercharger in early spring, and if I happen to gain an extra 12 to 15, then great. Otherwise, I will have a good quality set of new plug wires worst case scenario. They are only $129 on Phasetek, so its even less risk!

Punisher_ATX · 10-06-2015, 02:34 PM

MSD or OEM.. I run MSD because i kept burning stock wires. I will NEVER run Taylors again JUNK quality wires i had them on 3 different cars and i have enough wires to barely complete one set left. the rest failed, fell apart, shorted out etc.

Bo White · 10-06-2015, 03:26 PM

The reason Im a Taylor fan is I worked for a speed shop back in the day that sold more Taylor wires than anyone. Ive sold and ran quite a few sets.

LTRS777 · 10-06-2015, 04:05 PM

Put MSD wires on, gained some, but honestly couldn't care less. I like the look and clearance on the headers more than anything.

Jason@Phastek · 10-06-2015, 04:58 PM

I have tested several sets of Spark Plug wires on the dyno to see if i could back up claims and the verdict was no improvement. I Recommend the JBA Spark Plug Wires for the price and Durability if you are looking at replacing your wires. I do not recommend the MSD. They do not fit the factory shields well and they are prone to break if you have to take them back off after running them for a while. My .02

Taco Time · 10-06-2015, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason@Phastek Performance

I have tested several sets of Spark Plug wires on the dyno to see if i could back up claims and the verdict was no improvement. I Recommend the JBA Spark Plug Wires for the price and Durability if you are looking at replacing your wires. I do not recommend the MSD. They do not fit the factory shields well and they are prone to break if you have to take them back off after running them for a while. My .02

But I need yellow! I don't want red. Everyone knows that yellow is good for at least two more horsepowers... Do you have yellow?

Jason@Phastek · 10-06-2015, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Taco Time

But I need yellow! I don't want red. Everyone knows that yellow is good for at least two more horsepowers... Do you have yellow?

You know I think I have seen the Yellow Wires pick up at least 1.9 HP over stock. For some reason I am Hungry for Tacos now.

GONIF · 10-06-2015, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason@Phastek Performance

You know I think I have seen the Yellow Wires pick up at least 1.9 HP over stock. For some reason I am Hungry for Tacos now.

Soft or chunchy shell ????/

christianchevell · 10-06-2015, 06:59 PM

Less resistance + more power now the car may want to think it needs more resistance, sure I say whatever...... Build a better mouse trap and someone will claim it wont work or the old ones are better, etc.... I bought them f better heat resistance, Have not had my final dyno tune yet, and would be interested to do a compare stock versus aftermarket wires and doubt much difference, but hey add some nice coils eventually say some sultans of spark or what ever and there are lots o dynos proving more spark= better flame over more complete combustion and better power.

SO just because Granatelli which is a real good company says they get more power and no one bothers to test it does not mean its not true or not worth it. And there are dynos showing their difference on engines with better coils etc ... I am not going to dig them up, its like why I have my favorite, does it make a difference, lets see I run a 11:1 428 with ported heads, headers, VMAX, UDP, customs remapped tune by the best semi local dyno tuner/LS guru ,( I do not want to annoy him to see if they make a noticeable power difference in the end as its money I already spent both on the install and tune and the wires).... Now If I were rich..lol sure make another dyno run after switching out the wires....lol My Granatellis fit the factory shields and one even was on the headers for a COUPLE HUNDRED MILES until I moved it and only a little scorch mark as my stupid coil covers made it sit on them until I spun the wire...( I will be getting some nice American car craft covers some day).

I know the eternal debate that has gone on here about plug wires, and well we are not the richest to go and test everything, and the manufacturers... well they are what they are, so speed shops testing various wires/coils would be nice but finding them... and then sharing them.... Could change to make a more popular consensus than The stockers are fine, ( I mean after all we have individual coils compared to my old SBC days making 406's and adding MSD HEI's with customized this and that), and the stock coils do provide a lot of power, but hey this is hot rodding and there is always going to be someone selling snake oil and someone selling something that is really better. The hard part is figuring our for yourself which is which, and well there were some customers claiming improved performance with the granatelli wires, and yes the name has been around quite a while........

sdynak · 10-06-2015, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GONIF

Soft or chunchy shell ????/

Great ..

... I wanted opinions on wires now I'm hungry for some crunchy tacos!

..

Seriously.. the opinions and various feedback are what make up this board where someone like me can get the vast wealth of experience found nowhere else.. Greatly appreciated.

Unreal · 10-06-2015, 11:51 PM

If wires could instantly add that, all the OEMs would use them.

Grantelli is not a good name and has been known all over to scam people. Search around.

You buy wires for fit and reliability. I've ran Taylor, MSD, OEM and Autozone. If I had to rank them it would be
OEM, Autozone, Taylor, MSD. The MSD are fragile and dont fit well. Taylors a ok but no better than any others. Autozone are great because they fit well, worked, and if/when you break them just go warranty them out cause it is a lifetime warranty.

blake-b · 10-07-2015, 12:09 AM

Has anyone made over 1k to the wheels with OEM wires???????????

Is it just me or are too many people majoring in the minors?

krisprz2010camaross · 10-07-2015, 12:26 AM

I Taylor racing spark plug wires no problems and have had them for 2 years now

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Taco Time · 10-07-2015, 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason@Phastek Performance

You know I think I have seen the Yellow Wires pick up at least 1.9 HP over stock. For some reason I am Hungry for Tacos now.

And the truth comes out! I expect yall will be serving tacos at Phastek's open house now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GONIF

Soft or chunchy shell ????/

Both of course.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdynak

Great ..

... I wanted opinions on wires now I'm hungry for some crunchy tacos!

..

Seriously.. the opinions and various feedback are what make up this board where someone like me can get the vast wealth of experience found nowhere else.. Greatly appreciated.

Every day is taco Tuesday in my house. But your thread has def peaked my interest in spark plug wires.

10-06-2015, 01:26 PM	#29
SeaCompiler ...not a marine biologist Drives: 2012 Camaro RY SS LS3 Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Clarkesville, GA Posts: 752 View My Garage	You can ignore the Snopes post - it was a silly ref to the current fake photo of a shark swimming down the street in SC due to the weather - I live near ATL. Anyways, I have seen the other posts, and the excellent rebuttal from Janetty which states it is likely only a 5 hp increase. Granatelli claims an average of 5 HP for N/A and 12-15 for FI, so this is in line. I will be installing a supercharger in early spring, and if I happen to gain an extra 12 to 15, then great. Otherwise, I will have a good quality set of new plug wires worst case scenario. They are only $129 on Phasetek, so its even less risk! __________________ Forged 416 stroker Turbocharged with Huron Speed with Cam Motion custom grind,Tuned by Vengeance, 8psi, 25% PowerBond UDP, Ported TB, shaved heads, LS9 gaskets, chromoly pushrods, BT trunnions & dual valve springs, IWIS, Might Mouse CC, SJM Line Lock,, MSD 2-Step, ZL1 Rear End, ZL1 spoiler, Strut Brace, ARP bolts, Skip shift elim, A-Pillar Gauges, FR Style 41 20X10, 3 inch exhaust, blackouts, Lowered, Custom badges, Hines vents,RPI fender vents, Technostalgia Tail Lights, Metra Kit, Pioneer stereo, Morimoto RGB Halos, "The Great Awakening" on gab.com

10-06-2015, 04:05 PM	#32
LTRS777 Drives: 2014 Saleen 620 White Label #14-011 Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: AL Posts: 609	Put MSD wires on, gained some, but honestly couldn't care less. I like the look and clearance on the headers more than anything. __________________ '14 Saleen 620 White Label #14-011 ADM LSA Stage 1 Kit, ADM 2.75 Pulley, DEKA 63lb injectors, ZL1 Fuel Pump, JLT 123MM Big Mouth intake, TSP 2" LTHs, BW TB, 2.5" Catback, Scott Culbert/GEN3PERF tuned! 573WHP/557WTQ @ 10psi. Build Thread Here: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=390708

10-06-2015, 06:59 PM	#37
christianchevell old school chevy rodder Drives: 2021 zl1 a-10 WildCherry Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Oregon Posts: 5,622 View My Garage	Less resistance + more power now the car may want to think it needs more resistance, sure I say whatever...... Build a better mouse trap and someone will claim it wont work or the old ones are better, etc.... I bought them f better heat resistance, Have not had my final dyno tune yet, and would be interested to do a compare stock versus aftermarket wires and doubt much difference, but hey add some nice coils eventually say some sultans of spark or what ever and there are lots o dynos proving more spark= better flame over more complete combustion and better power. SO just because Granatelli which is a real good company says they get more power and no one bothers to test it does not mean its not true or not worth it. And there are dynos showing their difference on engines with better coils etc ... I am not going to dig them up, its like why I have my favorite, does it make a difference, lets see I run a 11:1 428 with ported heads, headers, VMAX, UDP, customs remapped tune by the best semi local dyno tuner/LS guru ,( I do not want to annoy him to see if they make a noticeable power difference in the end as its money I already spent both on the install and tune and the wires).... Now If I were rich..lol sure make another dyno run after switching out the wires....lol My Granatellis fit the factory shields and one even was on the headers for a COUPLE HUNDRED MILES until I moved it and only a little scorch mark as my stupid coil covers made it sit on them until I spun the wire...( I will be getting some nice American car craft covers some day). I know the eternal debate that has gone on here about plug wires, and well we are not the richest to go and test everything, and the manufacturers... well they are what they are, so speed shops testing various wires/coils would be nice but finding them... and then sharing them.... Could change to make a more popular consensus than The stockers are fine, ( I mean after all we have individual coils compared to my old SBC days making 406's and adding MSD HEI's with customized this and that), and the stock coils do provide a lot of power, but hey this is hot rodding and there is always going to be someone selling snake oil and someone selling something that is really better. The hard part is figuring our for yourself which is which, and well there were some customers claiming improved performance with the granatelli wires, and yes the name has been around quite a while........ __________________ 2021 Wild Cherry ZL1 A10, Sunroof, Data,Red Carbon Interior, Nav, RotoFab Big Gulp , Elite x2ultra, Borla ATAK, Driveshaft shop, BMR susp, Speed covers, intercoolers, ATI , 2650 MAG, DSX lid, 103 NW, TSP Longtubes & cats, LPE, 1le mods, ,LME cover, Katech pump and chain, Trunnions, BTR stage 2, LPE boostapump, Gforce, Speed eng , Granetteli, etc etc

10-06-2015, 11:51 PM	#39
Unreal Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 5,712	If wires could instantly add that, all the OEMs would use them. Grantelli is not a good name and has been known all over to scam people. Search around. You buy wires for fit and reliability. I've ran Taylor, MSD, OEM and Autozone. If I had to rank them it would be OEM, Autozone, Taylor, MSD. The MSD are fragile and dont fit well. Taylors a ok but no better than any others. Autozone are great because they fit well, worked, and if/when you break them just go warranty them out cause it is a lifetime warranty. __________________ Nick Corvette Z06 -1200ish rwhp

10-07-2015, 12:26 AM	#41
krisprz2010camaross Drives: 2010 Camaro 2ss/Rs Transformers Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Yorba Linda, California Posts: 1,561	I Taylor racing spark plug wires no problems and have had them for 2 years now Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ YouTube:Krisprz garage Insta:kris__perez & krisprz_garage LS3 conversion Vararam intake(tune model) Kooks LT headers & cats delete Corsa ZL1 3" exhaust RedBarn Racing Tune CMS Stage 3 Cam AFR CNC ported heads MSD Spark plug wires LNC-2000 Launch controller NGK TR6 Spark Plugs 1le strut tower brace-TPIS spacers Nick Williams 102mm throttle body Fast lsxr 102 intake manifold Slp 25% UDP Katech Tensioner Pulley Circle D 3600-3700 multi disk Stall GM 3.91 gears DDS carbon fiber driveshaft ZL1 fuel pump & injectors Flex fuel sensor(91/E85) https://wheelwell.com/kris-perez

10-06-2015, 02:34 PM	#30
Punisher_ATX Drives: 2010 SS Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Austin Posts: 439	MSD or OEM.. I run MSD because i kept burning stock wires. I will NEVER run Taylors again JUNK quality wires i had them on 3 different cars and i have enough wires to barely complete one set left. the rest failed, fell apart, shorted out etc.

10-06-2015, 03:26 PM	#31
Bo White Drives: 2015 Summit White 2SS 1LE Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Vance Alabama Posts: 8,091	The reason Im a Taylor fan is I worked for a speed shop back in the day that sold more Taylor wires than anyone. Ive sold and ran quite a few sets.

10-06-2015, 04:58 PM	#33
Jason@Phastek Drives: 2010 Camaro Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston Posts: 284	I have tested several sets of Spark Plug wires on the dyno to see if i could back up claims and the verdict was no improvement. I Recommend the JBA Spark Plug Wires for the price and Durability if you are looking at replacing your wires. I do not recommend the MSD. They do not fit the factory shields well and they are prone to break if you have to take them back off after running them for a while. My .02

10-07-2015, 12:09 AM	#40
blake-b Drives: 2009 ZR1 Join Date: May 2010 Location: KCMO Posts: 3,205	Has anyone made over 1k to the wheels with OEM wires??????????? Is it just me or are too many people majoring in the minors?