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1LEMan · 11-03-2015, 08:09 AM

It sure should not require much clamping force for no more than what engine oil pumps put out for pressure. Recommend checking both surfaces for flatness with a small parallel.... And maybe hit those surfaces lightly with a hone stone. Reading this thread for a while now, you definately have paid due attention to detail. #respect

Stephen12ZL1 · 11-03-2015, 08:32 AM

lube the o-rings first and make sure they aren't dry and it should enhance the seal. I didn't realize your oil cooler adapter didn't use the factory GM gasket.

Synner · 11-03-2015, 09:14 AM

I'd reconfirm o ring placement. Mine kept shifting out of their groove and it took a few times to stay properly seated.

White_SS/RS · 11-03-2015, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1LEMan

It sure should not require much clamping force for no more than what engine oil pumps put out for pressure. Recommend checking both surfaces for flatness with a small parallel.... And maybe hit those surfaces lightly with a hone stone. Reading this thread for a while now, you definately have paid due attention to detail. #respect

I’d have to say this ^^^ would help. When you drilled and tapped for the Heli-coil it slightly raised the material around the hole. Aluminum and other soft metals are pretty bad about doing this. You could use a stone like mentioned above or a good straight file, keeping it flat against your work and making sure you don’t bend it by keeping all the pressure over the part surface. You can also use a layout dye to help see your work. Dykem is good layout dye and it’s fairly easy to find. It’s an aerosol and cleans up with brake or carb cleaner.

X25 · 11-03-2015, 02:42 PM

OK fair enough, but annoying

I will try 21 lb.ft, and if it doesn't seem to work, instead of increasing torque further, I'll work on the surfaces. You know, perhaps I should open up an auto shop when I retire; this is becoming crazy!

X25 · 11-03-2015, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Synner

I'd reconfirm o ring placement. Mine kept shifting out of their groove and it took a few times to stay properly seated.

I think you're the winner. Looked like one of the o-rings was a bit off. I ordered a 25 pack. I also ordered 0.5mm thicker O-rings so I can check which one fits better.

In short, I've ordered M1.5x16 Viton 75 duro, and M2x16 Viton.

X25 · 11-06-2015, 04:19 AM

Camaro surgery list:

Eaton helical type differential

Z/28 diff cooler

Switch back to OEM engine mounts

Replacing damaged brake caliper

Tick remote bleeder

Exhaust R&R

Diff fluid: Redline 75W90 NS

Brake / clutch bleeding

Oil cooler adapter thread fix

Engine oil: Mobil1 5W-30 ESP

NGX TR5IX Spark plugs

Headers R&R

Transmission fluid: Amsoil Signature ATF

Cold air intake cleaning

Schroth Rallye 3 removal

Harness bar and plates install

Schroth Profi II

Almost done! The new O-rings did the trick, and it doesn't seem to be leaking (will check again in the morning, in case it did overnight).

I finally took it out for a drive, and I'm loving the OEM engine mounts. All the vibrations at idle and clutch engagement are gone. I also went full throttle from the stop signs (after engaging clutch) to see if the helical diff would prevent spin, but it starts spinning at around 3500 RPMs; the traction from MPSC 2 track tires at 47 degrees ambient is also limited, anyway.

In short, I'm loving the car! Everything works fine. I'll just install the new harness bar + harness before the track day on 14th, and that should be it! Here is hoping the weather doesn't get worse. It currently shows cloudy with rain possible at 52 degrees F for 14th. If it doesn't rain, I might even break my best time with that much cold; who knows : )

X25 · 11-07-2015, 08:24 AM

DONE!!!

Camaro surgery list:

Eaton helical type differential

Z/28 diff cooler

Switch back to OEM engine mounts

Replacing damaged brake caliper

Tick remote bleeder

Exhaust R&R

Diff fluid: Redline 75W90 NS

Brake / clutch bleeding

Oil cooler adapter thread fix

Engine oil: Mobil1 5W-30 ESP

NGX TR5IX Spark plugs

Headers R&R

Transmission fluid: Amsoil Signature ATF

Cold air intake cleaning

Schroth Rallye 3 removal

Harness bar and plates install

Schroth Profi II

The car is now ready for track! Here is hoping weather doesn't get worse for the 11/14 track day

I hate adding extra layers to bolts without making up for the lost length of bolt inside the thread. My bolt on the left has same length as the OEM bolt on the right, but it has a longer thread depth on it, compensating for the tank plate's thickness, which is also pictured:

I wonder if this harness bar helps/adds on rigidity of the car:

Profi II ASM harness is so much better than the Rallye 3 or my cheap 6-point harness on my Miata. The smooth surface makes it substantially easier to pull it, and it is also lighter than the cheaper units. Looking forward to trying it out at the track:

I can also just remove the whole harness for street use, but tucking them aside is the easiest.

Looking forward to trying the diff + MPSC 2 tires:

X25 · 11-07-2015, 08:52 AM

It feels like this project is finished:

Legend: Planned | Procured | Installed

Engine / Powertrain
- TSP 304 LT Headers with custom 3" X Pipe (TSP's own x-pipe did not fit perfect).
- Improved Racing oil pan baffle.
- DEI coil boots.
- 2000 degrees F matte-gray header coating.
- Diablosport Intune w/ custom tune from FSP - $489 shipped.
- DeWitts radiator - $575 shipped.
- Improved Racing oil cooler with Setrab Series 6 / 48 rows.
- Improved Racing oil sensor manifold (ENV-150).
- Tick remote clutch bleeder.
- Detroit Truetrac 912A686 Helical differential - $511 after rebate.
- Z/28 rear differential cooler (23216684) - $530 + shipping (use coupon code to get 5% off total).
Interior
- Schroth Racing Profi II ASM.
- Custom harness bar.
- Auto Meter 5286 Direct-fit Gauge Pod.
- Auto Meter 6348 Oil Temp Gauge.
- Auto Meter 6327 Oil Pressure Gauge.
- Auto Meter 9114 Dimmer For LED Gauges.
Handling
- Z/28 suspension package . $3449 shipped.
  - Front/Rear DSSV struts,
  - Front/Rear sway bars with end links ,
  - Front control arms,
  - Rear upper and lower arms.
- Z/28 full aero.
- BMR BK024 Cradle Bushings,
- BMR BK018 Front Lower Control Arm Bushings.
- Tires
  - Hankook Ventus R-S3 305/30/19 for daily driving.
  - Pirelli Trofeo R 305/30/19.
  - Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 305/30/19.
- Wheels
  - APEX ARC-8 19"x10.5" +22 spin forged wheels for daily driving / rain.
  - OEM Z/28 Wheels 19"x11" +11 fronts, 19"x11.5" +26 rears.
Brakes
- Quantum - Competition Brake Cooling Kit - $239.95.
  - NACA ducts: $20.
- StopTech ST60 Front BBK 15” red (83.193.6800.71).
- Stock rear rotor (92245929) - $85.31 shipped x2.
- Pads
  - Raybestos ST47 R2600.18 Front pads for StopTech ST60 caliper.
  - Cobalt Friction XR2 Rear (CRB-XR2-D592-15.0MM-R).
Fluids
- Engine oil: Mobil1 5W-30.
- Differential oil: Redline 75W-90NS (no friction modifier for helical Eaton TrueTrac diff).
- Transmission oil: Amsoil Signature Series Multi-Vehicle Synthetic ATF.
- Brake fluid: Motul RBF 600.
- Coolant: GM DexCool @30%.
- Suspension grease: Amsoil Synthetic Polymeric Truck, Chassis and Equipment Grease, NLGI #2.
Other
- HSA elimination - $80 shipped.

cdb95z28 · 11-07-2015, 09:20 AM

Outstanding build X25!

Dyk-NO · 11-16-2015, 10:48 AM

Nice build just subscribed, btw are you in some mechanical field because even though you're doing bolt on mods, you are doing a lot at the same time. (maybe it's just too much for a noob like me).

Great build. way to fine tune the car.

X25 · 11-16-2015, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdb95z28

Outstanding build X25!

Thank you!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dyk-NO

Nice build just subscribed, btw are you in some mechanical field because even though you're doing bolt on mods, you are doing a lot at the same time. (maybe it's just too much for a noob like me).

Great build. way to fine tune the car.

I'm actually a software engineer, but I have a car lift, air tools, good selection of regular tools, etc. A friend of mine always said: "a man is only as good as his tools"

X25 · 11-22-2015, 05:02 AM

UPDATES!

It turns out I'm a truck guy. The V6 Durango, despite its 6200 lbs towing rating, was pretty underwhelming when it comes to towing. I've been really missing my former truck with the Hemi. Enter:
RAM 1500 Laramie Crew Cab 4x4 w/ Hemi V8

Tested and approved by sweeties.

Just picked up the new trailer! Observe how low it is. The height + tilt feature will help make it much easier to load the cars.

The 10"x30" approach plates. The driver side fender is hinged,.

Ultra Type 62 Trailer (alloy) wheels. 6 lug design increases its load capacity to 2800+ lbs!

Tilt in action.

I'm really done stocking tires. I mean it.

Now that I have a harness bar, I can move the GoPro mount to a better location.

BaylorCamaro · 11-23-2015, 01:12 PM

Do you know the brand / model of that trailer? Looks like a good option.

Oh and I think I can give you a run for your money on tires lol. The current count is 9 wheels and 20 tires.

11-03-2015, 08:32 AM	#492
Stephen12ZL1 Drives: '21 ZLE A10 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Mechanicsville, VA Posts: 6,824	lube the o-rings first and make sure they aren't dry and it should enhance the seal. I didn't realize your oil cooler adapter didn't use the factory GM gasket. __________________ '21 ZLE A10 Wild Cherry PDR 2:00.78 VIR Full 10.68@131.69 1.68 60' '17 ZL1 A10 Mosaic Black PDR/Nav 2:03.08 VIR Full 11.003@129.2 1.75 (sold) '15 Z/28 #325 Black a/c & stereo. 2:10.1 VIR Full (sold) '12 ZL1 A6 Black 10.52@131 1.55 60' 2:13 VIR Full (sold)

11-03-2015, 02:42 PM	#495
X25 Drives: '16 C7 Z51 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Redmond, WA Posts: 3,056	OK fair enough, but annoying I will try 21 lb.ft, and if it doesn't seem to work, instead of increasing torque further, I'll work on the surfaces. You know, perhaps I should open up an auto shop when I retire; this is becoming crazy! __________________ '16 Corvette C7 Z51 1LT (Build Thread) '14 AGM 1SS 1LE [COTW 11/17/14] (Build Thread) (SOLD) '13 Mazda MX-5 Club (Build Thread) '17 RAM 1500 Crew Cab 4x4 Night Edition '15 Nissan Rogue S AWD

11-06-2015, 04:19 AM	#497
X25 Drives: '16 C7 Z51 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Redmond, WA Posts: 3,056	Camaro surgery list: Eaton helical type differential Z/28 diff cooler Switch back to OEM engine mounts Replacing damaged brake caliper Tick remote bleeder Exhaust R&R Diff fluid: Redline 75W90 NS Brake / clutch bleeding Oil cooler adapter thread fix Engine oil: Mobil1 5W-30 ESP NGX TR5IX Spark plugs Headers R&R Transmission fluid: Amsoil Signature ATF Cold air intake cleaning Schroth Rallye 3 removal Harness bar and plates install Schroth Profi II Almost done! The new O-rings did the trick, and it doesn't seem to be leaking (will check again in the morning, in case it did overnight). I finally took it out for a drive, and I'm loving the OEM engine mounts. All the vibrations at idle and clutch engagement are gone. I also went full throttle from the stop signs (after engaging clutch) to see if the helical diff would prevent spin, but it starts spinning at around 3500 RPMs; the traction from MPSC 2 track tires at 47 degrees ambient is also limited, anyway. In short, I'm loving the car! Everything works fine. I'll just install the new harness bar + harness before the track day on 14th, and that should be it! Here is hoping the weather doesn't get worse. It currently shows cloudy with rain possible at 52 degrees F for 14th. If it doesn't rain, I might even break my best time with that much cold; who knows : ) __________________ '16 Corvette C7 Z51 1LT (Build Thread) '14 AGM 1SS 1LE [COTW 11/17/14] (Build Thread) (SOLD) '13 Mazda MX-5 Club (Build Thread) '17 RAM 1500 Crew Cab 4x4 Night Edition '15 Nissan Rogue S AWD

11-07-2015, 08:24 AM	#498
X25 Drives: '16 C7 Z51 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Redmond, WA Posts: 3,056	DONE!!! Camaro surgery list: Eaton helical type differential Z/28 diff cooler Switch back to OEM engine mounts Replacing damaged brake caliper Tick remote bleeder Exhaust R&R Diff fluid: Redline 75W90 NS Brake / clutch bleeding Oil cooler adapter thread fix Engine oil: Mobil1 5W-30 ESP NGX TR5IX Spark plugs Headers R&R Transmission fluid: Amsoil Signature ATF Cold air intake cleaning Schroth Rallye 3 removal Harness bar and plates install Schroth Profi II The car is now ready for track! Here is hoping weather doesn't get worse for the 11/14 track day I hate adding extra layers to bolts without making up for the lost length of bolt inside the thread. My bolt on the left has same length as the OEM bolt on the right, but it has a longer thread depth on it, compensating for the tank plate's thickness, which is also pictured: I wonder if this harness bar helps/adds on rigidity of the car: Profi II ASM harness is so much better than the Rallye 3 or my cheap 6-point harness on my Miata. The smooth surface makes it substantially easier to pull it, and it is also lighter than the cheaper units. Looking forward to trying it out at the track: I can also just remove the whole harness for street use, but tucking them aside is the easiest. Looking forward to trying the diff + MPSC 2 tires: __________________ '16 Corvette C7 Z51 1LT (Build Thread) '14 AGM 1SS 1LE [COTW 11/17/14] (Build Thread) (SOLD) '13 Mazda MX-5 Club (Build Thread) '17 RAM 1500 Crew Cab 4x4 Night Edition '15 Nissan Rogue S AWD Last edited by X25; 11-07-2015 at 08:47 AM.

11-07-2015, 08:52 AM	#499
X25 Drives: '16 C7 Z51 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Redmond, WA Posts: 3,056	It feels like this project is finished: Legend: Planned \| Procured \| Installed *Engine / Powertrain* TSP 304 LT Headers with custom 3" X Pipe (TSP's own x-pipe did not fit perfect). Improved Racing oil pan baffle. DEI coil boots. 2000 degrees F matte-gray header coating. Diablosport Intune w/ custom tune from FSP - $489 shipped. DeWitts radiator - $575 shipped. Improved Racing oil cooler with Setrab Series 6 / 48 rows. Improved Racing oil sensor manifold (ENV-150). Tick remote clutch bleeder. Detroit Truetrac 912A686 Helical differential - $511 after rebate. Z/28 rear differential cooler (23216684) - $530 + shipping (use coupon code to get 5% off total). *Interior* Schroth Racing Profi II ASM. Custom harness bar. Auto Meter 5286 Direct-fit Gauge Pod. Auto Meter 6348 Oil Temp Gauge. Auto Meter 6327 Oil Pressure Gauge. Auto Meter 9114 Dimmer For LED Gauges. *Handling* Z/28 suspension package . $3449 shipped. Front/Rear DSSV struts, Front/Rear sway bars with end links , Front control arms, Rear upper and lower arms. Z/28 full aero. BMR BK024 Cradle Bushings, BMR BK018 Front Lower Control Arm Bushings. *Tires* Hankook Ventus R-S3 305/30/19 for daily driving. Pirelli Trofeo R 305/30/19. Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 305/30/19. *Wheels* APEX ARC-8 19"x10.5" +22 spin forged wheels for daily driving / rain. OEM Z/28 Wheels 19"x11" +11 fronts, 19"x11.5" +26 rears. *Brakes* Quantum - Competition Brake Cooling Kit - $239.95. NACA ducts: $20. StopTech ST60 Front BBK 15” red (83.193.6800.71). Stock rear rotor (92245929) - $85.31 shipped x2. *Pads* Raybestos ST47 R2600.18 Front pads for StopTech ST60 caliper. Cobalt Friction XR2 Rear (CRB-XR2-D592-15.0MM-R). *Fluids* Engine oil: Mobil1 5W-30. Differential oil: Redline 75W-90NS (no friction modifier for helical Eaton TrueTrac diff). Transmission oil: Amsoil Signature Series Multi-Vehicle Synthetic ATF. Brake fluid: Motul RBF 600. Coolant: GM DexCool @30%. Suspension grease: Amsoil Synthetic Polymeric Truck, Chassis and Equipment Grease, NLGI #2. *Other* HSA elimination - $80 shipped. __________________ '16 Corvette C7 Z51 1LT (Build Thread) '14 AGM 1SS 1LE [COTW 11/17/14] (Build Thread) (SOLD) '13 Mazda MX-5 Club (Build Thread) '17 RAM 1500 Crew Cab 4x4 Night Edition '15 Nissan Rogue S AWD

11-03-2015, 08:09 AM	#491
1LEMan Drives: 2013 1LE Camaro RS/SS Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Ia Posts: 198 View My Garage	It sure should not require much clamping force for no more than what engine oil pumps put out for pressure. Recommend checking both surfaces for flatness with a small parallel.... And maybe hit those surfaces lightly with a hone stone. Reading this thread for a while now, you definately have paid due attention to detail. #respect

11-03-2015, 09:14 AM	#493
Synner Drives: cars Join Date: May 2011 Location: Oversneeze Posts: 4,542	I'd reconfirm o ring placement. Mine kept shifting out of their groove and it took a few times to stay properly seated.

11-07-2015, 09:20 AM	#500
cdb95z28 Drives: 2022 1SS 1LE A10 BCD WCT+PDR Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Johnstown, PA Posts: 3,772	Outstanding build X25! __________________ 2022 1SS 1LE A10 BCD WCT+PDR2014 1SS 1LE NPP RECARO SIM-SOLD1995 Z28 M6 GSC PGM-SOLD1975 NOVA COUPE 300HP 350 TH350 FLASH RED-SOLD "KEEP THE FAITH"-Fbodfather

11-16-2015, 10:48 AM	#501
Dyk-NO Trust me I'm a Scientist. Drives: My wifey ;P Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,118 View My Garage	Nice build just subscribed, btw are you in some mechanical field because even though you're doing bolt on mods, you are doing a lot at the same time. (maybe it's just too much for a noob like me). Great build. way to fine tune the car. __________________ "From ZERO to a Tire-Burning HERO!" Mods: RotoFab CAI, SW Headers, HiFlo Cats, Borla Atak Catback, Nightfury Cam, Ported Heads,Intake,TB, melling pump, Morosso Oil Separator.

11-22-2015, 05:02 AM	#503
X25 Drives: '16 C7 Z51 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Redmond, WA Posts: 3,056	UPDATES! It turns out I'm a truck guy. The V6 Durango, despite its 6200 lbs towing rating, was pretty underwhelming when it comes to towing. I've been really missing my former truck with the Hemi. Enter: RAM 1500 Laramie Crew Cab 4x4 w/ Hemi V8 Tested and approved by sweeties. Just picked up the new trailer! Observe how low it is. The height + tilt feature will help make it much easier to load the cars. The 10"x30" approach plates. The driver side fender is hinged,. Ultra Type 62 Trailer (alloy) wheels. 6 lug design increases its load capacity to 2800+ lbs! Tilt in action. I'm really done stocking tires. I mean it. Now that I have a harness bar, I can move the GoPro mount to a better location. __________________ '16 Corvette C7 Z51 1LT (Build Thread) '14 AGM 1SS 1LE [COTW 11/17/14] (Build Thread) (SOLD) '13 Mazda MX-5 Club (Build Thread) '17 RAM 1500 Crew Cab 4x4 Night Edition '15 Nissan Rogue S AWD Last edited by X25; 11-22-2015 at 06:59 AM.

11-23-2015, 01:12 PM	#504
BaylorCamaro Track > 1/4 Mile Drives: 2016 C7 Z51 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: League City, TX Posts: 6,072 View My Garage	Do you know the brand / model of that trailer? Looks like a good option. Oh and I think I can give you a run for your money on tires lol. The current count is 9 wheels and 20 tires. __________________ Automotive YouTube Channel / Texas World Speedway / MSR Houston