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DREWid · 09-02-2009, 10:29 PM

They love the new Camaro even though they liked the Stang more. What bugged me the most were the low marks they gave it in both interior and exterior styling. Lower than the Challenger for interior? OMG what were they smoking? The Challenger has nothing on the inside for style. I know it's all subjective, but please R&T, who paid you guys off?
OK, I'm off my soap box.

cab2g · 09-02-2009, 10:38 PM

they probably just don't like the space age looking instrument cluster :P To be honest it's not my favorite, but it's better than the challenger I agree...

CloudXTC · 09-02-2009, 10:42 PM

they need to take polls instead of it being one guy's opinions for these magazines...

SS 376 · 09-02-2009, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DREWid

They love the new Camaro even though they liked the Stang more. What bugged me the most were the low marks they gave it in both interior and exterior styling. Lower than the Challenger for interior? OMG what were they smoking? The Challenger has nothing on the inside for style. I know it's all subjective, but please R&T, who paid you guys off?
OK, I'm off my soap box.

Didn't understand how they thought the Challenger's interior was better than the Camaro's either.
Opinions are like assholes. Not only does everyone have one, but I'm not interested in anyone else's either.

JJ2010 · 09-02-2009, 10:54 PM

I am happy with my SS and don't really care if anybody else is or not......

KLR ZL1 · 09-02-2009, 11:09 PM

I like the article that Car and Driver wrote also. They said the camaro looked angry. It looks mean, whats wrong with that? They also had the stangy winning, only because it had the track pack. Put a track pack on a camaro and see what happens. I'm letting my subscription run out because of articles like this.

LosXC451 · 09-02-2009, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ2010

I am happy with my SS and don't really care if anybody else is or not......

+1

2cnd chance · 09-02-2009, 11:22 PM

they sell and cater to the public masses who in turn are obviously on the Ford (didn't borrow any gov't funds) bandwagon.
Ford up 17%
GM down 20% (even with cash for clunkers)

topgun1 · 09-03-2009, 10:56 AM

How can this be? Alot of you have already probably read, but in the October issue of Road & Track in the "Pony Express!" article they compare the Mustang GT with track package, the Challenger R/T (which I get tired of them comparing to and not the SRT), and the Camaro SS on a long trip across part of the US on the former Pony Express.

In exterior styling based out of 15 points, the Mustang receives 15.0, the Challenger 14.5 and the Camaro a ridiculous 11.2. I could not disagree more, the exterior styling of the Camaro is what makes heads turn and is an amazing design, sleek, sexy lines, agressive stance, etc. etc. etc. This is what got people so interested in it in the first place. Someone tell me if using the Challenger in Transformers would have had the same effect--i don't think so. How can they give the boat-like, massive, droopy eyed Challenger nearly 15 out of 15 and the Mustang with its depressed front end, feminine-esque styling and weird tail lights a 15.

One of the drivers did admit that he was in the minority on the styling because everywhere they went, the Camaro SS was getting the looks and the raves, not the other two in the peanut gallery.

At least they gave the engine and brakes 20 out of 20 each, and were able to get a 4.6 sprint to 60 and 12.9 quarter!

VenomZ302 · 09-03-2009, 11:04 AM

One of the other magazines did something similar, knocking off points for exterior styling because the car looked angry.

I've never thought the Camaro looked angry. More like confidently happy.

Morepwr · 09-03-2009, 11:06 AM

Thats the problem with most of the car mags. They are based on the opinion of the article writer and not an honest evaluation of the car. The guy simply may dislike chevys. That and $$$ from the companies that need a good review.

If I read a car mag, its just to get the hard numbers of the car and nothing more.

Dakota Kid · 09-03-2009, 11:08 AM

The writer (Peter Eagan) owns a 2008 Mustang GT Bullit, and may be just a little biased.

topgun1 · 09-03-2009, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dakota Kid

The writer (Peter Eagan) owns a 2008 Mustang GT Bullit, and may be just a little biased.

yep, this is true. I think he was pretty into his mustang and the one he was driving. at least he admitted that the raves along the trip were mainly for the Camaro.

greenrail · 09-03-2009, 11:43 AM

To me, this is definitely an example of personal taste regarding the styling issues.

However, when you look at the performance numbers, that tells the real story.

Still reaffirms my choice!

09-02-2009, 10:29 PM	#1
DREWid Drives: 2LT/RS/Man/IOM/IO/20" Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 46 View My Garage	Just read the October Road & Track They love the new Camaro even though they liked the Stang more. What bugged me the most were the low marks they gave it in both interior and exterior styling. Lower than the Challenger for interior? OMG what were they smoking? The Challenger has nothing on the inside for style. I know it's all subjective, but please R&T, who paid you guys off? OK, I'm off my soap box. __________________ Ordered 10/15/08, Produced 5/26/09, Delivered 6/10/09 #13068 Worth The Wait

09-02-2009, 10:38 PM	#2
cab2g love. my. car. Drives: 2011 2SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,372 View My Garage	they probably just don't like the space age looking instrument cluster :P To be honest it's not my favorite, but it's better than the challenger I agree... __________________

09-02-2009, 10:42 PM	#3
CloudXTC Drives: 1LT\|RS\|SIM\|M6\|BA Stereo Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Brampton, Ontario Posts: 1,838	they need to take polls instead of it being one guy's opinions for these magazines... __________________ 1LT \| RS \| M6 \| SIM \| BA Stereo 1000 - [07-23-2009] Order Made at dealer 1100 - [08-04-2009] Preliminary order accepted 2000 - [08-25-2009] Accepted by GM 3000 - [09-01-2009] Accepted by production control TPW = 10-05-2009 3300 - [09-28-2009] Scheduled for production 3400 - [10-01-2009] Broadcast - Being Built 3800 - [10-13-2009] Produced - Built- VIN 2G1xxx54917 4200 - [10-19-2009] Shipped 5000 - [10-19-2009] Delivered to the dealer 6000 - [10-20-2009] Delivered to the customer

09-03-2009, 10:56 AM	#9
topgun1 Drives: 10 SIM 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Winston-Salem, NC Posts: 1,939 View My Garage	R&T magazine disses the Camaro on exterior styling?? How can this be? Alot of you have already probably read, but in the October issue of Road & Track in the "Pony Express!" article they compare the Mustang GT with track package, the Challenger R/T (which I get tired of them comparing to and not the SRT), and the Camaro SS on a long trip across part of the US on the former Pony Express. In exterior styling based out of 15 points, the Mustang receives 15.0, the Challenger 14.5 and the Camaro a ridiculous 11.2. I could not disagree more, the exterior styling of the Camaro is what makes heads turn and is an amazing design, sleek, sexy lines, agressive stance, etc. etc. etc. This is what got people so interested in it in the first place. Someone tell me if using the Challenger in Transformers would have had the same effect--i don't think so. How can they give the boat-like, massive, droopy eyed Challenger nearly 15 out of 15 and the Mustang with its depressed front end, feminine-esque styling and weird tail lights a 15. One of the drivers did admit that he was in the minority on the styling because everywhere they went, the Camaro SS was getting the looks and the raves, not the other two in the peanut gallery. At least they gave the engine and brakes 20 out of 20 each, and were able to get a 4.6 sprint to 60 and 12.9 quarter! __________________ 5th Gen Camaros of the Carolinas SIM, 2SS/RS LS3 5/7/11 453.9 RWHP 427.5 RWTQ VMS Stage 2.5 Comp Cams kit, Cold Air Inductions intake, ADM race scoop, DT 1 3/4" headers, Solo cats, 3" Magnaflow catback, Pypes cutouts, HP tune, H&R SuperSport springs, Eibach sways/spacers, TexasSpeed UD pulley, LSR tensioner pulley, Barton shifter, skip shift eliminator, powder-coated calipers, R1 concept rotors, StopTech pads, Granatelli wires, Lloyds mats, tint, AAC afterburner taillamps, AAC scanner/sidemarkers, SRP pedals, custom engine cover, black bowties, Ridergraphix hood spears....

09-03-2009, 11:04 AM	#10
VenomZ302 Live to Win, Dare to Fail Drives: 2010 Aqua Blue RS/SS M6 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 1,824 View My Garage	One of the other magazines did something similar, knocking off points for exterior styling because the car looked angry. I've never thought the Camaro looked angry. More like confidently happy. __________________ 3/13/09 - Ordered Aqua Blue Metallic 2SS/RS M6! 7/13/09 - Built! 8/11/09 - Delivered! 2G1FT1EW2A9124579

09-02-2009, 10:54 PM	#5
JJ2010 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Smithfield,NC Posts: 1,203	I am happy with my SS and don't really care if anybody else is or not......

09-02-2009, 11:09 PM	#6
KLR ZL1 H-Town Camaro Club Member Drives: 17 Hyper Blue Metallic KLR-ZL1 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Pearland Tx. Posts: 2,034 View My Garage	I like the article that Car and Driver wrote also. They said the camaro looked angry. It looks mean, whats wrong with that? They also had the stangy winning, only because it had the track pack. Put a track pack on a camaro and see what happens. I'm letting my subscription run out because of articles like this.

09-02-2009, 11:22 PM	#8
2cnd chance Too Many Great Choices Drives: Grand Sport/Z07 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: A Mountain Road Posts: 7,454	they sell and cater to the public masses who in turn are obviously on the Ford (didn't borrow any gov't funds) bandwagon. Ford up 17% GM down 20% (even with cash for clunkers)

09-03-2009, 11:06 AM	#11
Morepwr woohoo Drives: Silverado, 70cutlass, 57chevy&more Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 557	Thats the problem with most of the car mags. They are based on the opinion of the article writer and not an honest evaluation of the car. The guy simply may dislike chevys. That and $$$ from the companies that need a good review. If I read a car mag, its just to get the hard numbers of the car and nothing more. __________________ I am not useless, I can still be used as a bad example!

09-03-2009, 11:08 AM	#12
Dakota Kid Drives: 2010 2SS/RJT/L99 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 1,151	The writer (Peter Eagan) owns a 2008 Mustang GT Bullit, and may be just a little biased. __________________ 2SS/RJT/L99

09-03-2009, 11:43 AM	#14
greenrail Comic Curmudgeon Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS-2010 VW CC Sport Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Near Chicago, IL Posts: 2,392	To me, this is definitely an example of personal taste regarding the styling issues. However, when you look at the performance numbers, that tells the real story. Still reaffirms my choice! __________________ Member Illinois Camaro Club His Name is Rosie - "Speak Softly and Carry a Big Stick!" - If you know who said that, then you know the genesis of his name.

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