Hurst shifter question

[_Onyx_Wolf_]

Is the hurst short throw shifter better than the stock 1le shifter or are they the same? And do I have to buy the whole shifter assembly or can I just get the chrome stick and shift ball and install it to the stock one?

[Olddudesrule]

Wondering the same thing as far as whether the Hurst is a true upgrade for the GM short throw. Pretty sure if you change, you need to install the entire shifter assembly. GM shifter is a rod, Hurst is a blade.

[cowboy casey]

you will need to replace the whole "system" I had the dealer do it...

It makes shifting faster, more direct, LOUDER, you will hear everything your transmission is doing..

Is it better??? It really depends on what your looking for.. I love the Hurst T shifter as that was what was in my original Camaro.

[_Onyx_Wolf_]

Originally Posted by cowboy casey

you will need to replace the whole "system" I had the dealer do it...

It makes shifting faster, more direct, LOUDER, you will hear everything your transmission is doing..

Is it better??? It really depends on what your looking for.. I love the Hurst T shifter as that was what was in my original Camaro.

Sweet, how much for the dealer install? The install looks to be a PITA. And are you able to swap different shifter knobs out with this setup? Like if I wanted a pistol grip or something else.

[X25]

The OEM 1LE shifter is pretty good. I'm not sure if the Hurst shifter would be an upgrade; it might even be a downgrade. The OEM shifter works pretty good at the track. In my experience, when you get the shifts too short, you start missing shifts every once in a while at the track, since it's a notchy transmission due to its torque capacity to start with.

[cowboy casey]

Originally Posted by _Onyx_Wolf_

Sweet, how much for the dealer install? The install looks to be a PITA. And are you able to swap different shifter knobs out with this setup? Like if I wanted a pistol grip or something else.

it comes with both "types" of shifter connections.. you can use you're stock shifter, any of the ball knobs, it comes with 1... I used the T shifter but you can use most of the hurst shifter's including the pistol grip...

Warning: The metal shift knob is freakin cold, it is a chunk of metal and can take 4 or 5 minutes to warm up.. I wrapped my T handle in leather and it turned out really nice....

the dealer install was not cheap, it cost me 200 but I did not have the lift or time to do it and it worked for me..

[paul84043]

Originally Posted by _Onyx_Wolf_

Sweet, how much for the dealer install? The install looks to be a PITA. And are you able to swap different shifter knobs out with this setup? Like if I wanted a pistol grip or something else.

Install is really not bad. about an hour and the worst part is getting the rubber boot back over the linkage. If you get your car up high enough, this is a breeze. If not, you'll be contemplating suicide in about 45 minutes.
Other that that spawn of satan boot, the install is very easy.

I'll be installing mine some time this weekend..

[SSmitch]

Originally Posted by _Onyx_Wolf_

Is the hurst short throw shifter better than the stock 1le shifter or are they the same? And do I have to buy the whole shifter assembly or can I just get the chrome stick and shift ball and install it to the stock one?

This was my experience installing the Hurst Shifter on my 2014 1LE:
The performance between the shifters is personal preference, the Hurst is "ratchety" and more precise on hard shifting compared to stock, the reason I choose it was the chrome stick and white cue ball (I had that on my 69 Camaro SS when I was younger), otherwise I would have seriously considered a MGW.
I'll share a couple bits of advice; the NVH is increased dramatically so make sure you use the sound deadening material included in the kit, install a bushing upgrade kit (the stock poly bushings do not hold up) & buy another shift boot, (because you have to remove the chrome trim bezel which is glued on and you won't be able to re-use the boot if you want to reinstall the stock shifter) the only handle option with the kit is the chrome handle, it is not compatible with the "stock" ZL1/1LE GM short throw shift knob & shifter handle.
I would say this is an easy project and I did the install and rework on jack stands (lifted front of car only)

[Shawno72]

Originally Posted by SSmitch

This was my experience installing the Hurst Shifter on my 2014 1LE:
The performance between the shifters is personal preference, the Hurst is "ratchety" and more precise on hard shifting compared to stock, the reason I choose it was the chrome stick and white cue ball (I had that on my 69 Camaro SS when I was younger), otherwise I would have seriously considered a MGW.
I'll share a couple bits of advice; the NVH is increased dramatically so make sure you use the sound deadening material included in the kit, install a bushing upgrade kit (the stock poly bushings do not hold up) & buy another shift boot, (because you have to remove the chrome trim bezel which is glued on and you won't be able to re-use the boot if you want to reinstall the stock shifter) the only handle option with the kit is the chrome handle, it is not compatible with the "stock" ZL1/1LE GM short throw shift knob & shifter handle.
I would say this is an easy project and I did the install and rework on jack stands (lifted front of car only)

So If I want to reuse my 1le shift boot I have to take off the plastic trim ring?

[SSmitch]

Originally Posted by Shawno72

So If I want to reuse my 1le shift boot I have to take off the plastic trim ring?

That is correct, the Hurst shifter uses a rubber grommet around the shift handle and the top of the boot is zipped tied to it.
The Hurst instructions show the standard Camaro shifter, not the short throw for the ZL1/1LE, FYI.

I referenced this youtube video for the general install...



And these instructions on how to remove the shift knob from the ZL1/1LE short throw shifter....



This shows the chrome trim ring is part of the boot VS being zip tied like the standard Camaro shifter...

Hope this helps...

[Shawno72]

Originally Posted by SSmitch

That is correct, the Hurst shifter uses a rubber grommet around the shift handle and the top of the boot is zipped tied to it.
The Hurst instructions show the standard Camaro shifter, not the short throw for the ZL1/1LE, FYI.

I referenced this youtube video for the general install...



And these instructions on how to remove the shift knob from the ZL1/1LE short throw shifter....

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This shows the chrome trim ring is part of the boot VS being zip tied like the standard Camaro shifter...

Hope this helps...

Yeah that's how my chrome ring is, part of the boot. It attaches to the knob, so wouldn't it just reconnect to the factory knob if I was re-using it?

[SSmitch]

Originally Posted by Shawno72

Yeah that's how my chrome ring is, part of the boot. It attaches to the knob, so wouldn't it just reconnect to the factory knob if I was re-using it?

On a standard Camaro shifter yes...NOT ON A ZL1/1LE shifter... the chrome trim ring and shift knob are not the same, the chrome trim ring on the ZL1/1LE shifter is GLUED to the shift boot not zipped tied like the standard Camaro shifter.

[Shawno72]

Originally Posted by SSmitch

On a standard Camaro shifter yes...NOT ON A ZL1/1LE... the chrome trim ring and shift knob are not the same, the chrome trim ring on the ZL1/1LE shifter is GLUED to the shift boot not zipped tied like the standard Camaro shifter.

Ok gotcha. I have a 1le shift boot and knob. It even has the Hurst logo from the factory. Well that kinda sucks, I was hoping it would all fit over the Hurst shift handle

[paul84043]

The OEM adapter in my Hurst kit has the slot and tapped mounting hole shown for the ZL-1 / 1LE. The boot connects to the stock shift knob itself so it should all mount back up.

I tried to take a picture of the OEM adapter but it's black on black and I can't get a decent shot of it, it's too hard to see.