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Old 05-10-2013, 02:48 PM   #71
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Here is some info I think will help explain how altering the valve & port shape/design has a substantial impact of the efficiency of the flow through and past the valves into the combustion chamber. The coking deposits on the valves themselves has a substantial impact:



Unless rotary valves are perfected, poppet valves will continue to be the crucial moving airflow component in today’s high-performance engines. Their shape, material selection and preparation can make or break an engine’s ultimate performance, regardless of the development of high-profile parts like cylinder heads and induction systems.
“Engine valves exert enormous influence on engine airflow, mixture quality and the ability to run higher engine speeds,” says Zeke Urrutia of Ferrea Racing Components, which manufacturers of high-performance racing valves and valvetrain components.
An open valve creates a flow window defined by the valve seat flow diameter and the amount of lift created by the camshaft. At most lift values a significant portion of the flow window is partially obstructed by the combustion chamber walls, making it difficult to obtain equal flow around the entire circumference of the valve.

The valves must provide a perfect seal at all engine speeds, and their size, shape and seat angles must support the best possible mixture movement through the flow window. Specific materials are also required to maintain durability in the harsh combustion environment, but valve weight is also a paramount consideration to ensure effective high speed operation. In essence, there is much more to the ordinary engine valve than fundamentally meets the eye.
While the broad science of engine airflow is surprisingly complex, this report will focus on the basic content and function of engine valves and how they contribute to engine performance. The conventional valve and valve-seat configuration has proved to be the most practical way of feeding an engine. Unfortunately, this partnership is also the single greatest restriction to engine airflow. While port shape, length and cross section are the primary considerations of engine airflow dynamics, the throat area just above the valve is the most restrictive and the most crucial element of optimum airflow and mixture quality. In fact, the area approximately ½-inch above and below the intake valve is the most influential factor of the entire inlet flow path. Maintaining good airspeed past the rapidly opening and closing valves is the engine builder’s top priority.





Enhancing mixture quality
Multi-angle valve jobs are used to ease the flow transition from the port to the chamber on the intake side and from the chamber to the port on the exhaust side. The width, number and concentricity of these cuts influence sealing effectiveness and flow quality.

“A properly configured valve and valve seat angle can significantly improve air flow and enhance mixture quality at the same time,” stresses Urrutia.
Steady-state airflow past an open valve (on a flow bench) is one crucial measure, but starting and stopping that column of air (and fuel droplets) many times per second is not conducive to the smooth transfer of the fuel/air medium from the induction system. And it is certainly not supportive of good mixture quality when fuel droplets are violently slammed against the back of the valve at high speed and just as quickly accelerated and flushed past the seat into the cylinder where a whole different pressure environment exists.
The valve is a simple variable-geometry device that controls the opening and closing of the specified flow window or valve curtain area as determined by the camshaft and rocker ratio. The valve curtain area is defined as the flow window created by the open valve at maximum valve lift. To calculate valve curtain area you can’t go by the valve diameter itself. You have to use the flow diameter, which is where the actual valve seat begins and that is generally about .040-inch smaller than the measured valve diameter. A generally accurate formula for the flow diameter is multiplying the valve diameter by 0.98 (see sidebar).

Calculating the valve curtain area
The following equation mathematically defines the available flow area for any given valve diameter and lift value:
Area = valve diameter x 0.98 x 3.14 x valve lift
Where 3.14 = pi (π)
For a typical 2.02-inch intake valve at .500-inch lift, it calculates as follows:
Area = 2.02 x 0.98 x 3.14 x 0.500 = 3.107 square inches



Maximum valve opening, rate of opening and length of time the valve is open are controlled by the camshaft, but the valve size, shape and seat angles have a profound effect on overall airflow efficiency.
If we accept that airspeed and net mass flow are the key components of cylinder filling, it’s easy to see that moving high-velocity air past the valve and into the combustion chamber smoothly with minimal turbulence is critical to optimizing performance. Engine builders refer to this as pressure recovery or the efficient slowing of high velocity air and transforming kinetic flow energy into cylinder pressure. In the runner and past the valve, air velocity is high and the static pressure is low. Inside the cylinder, pressure is higher and airspeed is reduced due to the dramatic change in area. A gradual transition from low static pressure and high velocity past the valve to higher static pressure and low velocity in the cylinder aids cylinder filling and makes the most efficient use of a properly designed port.




Equal airflow
“This depends greatly on the shape of the combustion chamber, but the real key is to get the airflow as equal as possible around the entire circumference of the valve,” explains Urrutia. “This is difficult to achieve because the port almost always approaches the valve from an oblique angle, and flow is kinetically biased to follow its own preferred direction — which rarely favors even flow around the valve.”
Valve angle relative to the cylinder bore influences flow characteristics. A raised port and shallower valve angle improves flow by providing a straighter flow path and reduced valve shrouding. In some cases a slightly smaller valve will perform better because it helps to overcome the effects of shrouding.

Flow dynamics are further complicated when the combustion chamber typically shrouds 30 or more percent of the valve. That’s why pocket porting and unshrouding the valve picks up power, but the valve shape and seat angles play a significant role in optimizing flow efficiency and mixture quality through effective fuel shearing across the seat.
Titanium valves offer multiple benefits, despite their higher initial cost. — Zeke Urrutia, Ferrea
The role of the valve is critical at all lift values, but a key proportion is the LD ratio — or the lift-to-diameter ratio — where the lift value equals one-quarter of the valve’s diameter. Regardless of valve diameter, at this point the valve curtain area is exactly equal to the valve head area.
“Everything below this strongly influences low-lift flow,” says Urrutia, “which is an important function of overcoming fuel-mixture inertia.”
The accompanying chart indicates standard valve lengths for popular performance engines. Important dimensions include overall valve length, head diameter, margin height and tip length.

Above this point, the engine builder needs to compare the minimum port cross-sectional area (typically the throat area above the valve) to the valve curtain area. Somewhere around the mid-lift point, the valve curtain area becomes larger than the port area and the port itself becomes the restriction. This is called the saturation lift point. At every point in this equation we are stuck with the same fixed valve shape, seat angles and valve margin dimensions that influence air movement. Above the saturation point, the seat angles are still crucial to maintaining smooth transitional flow and providing a shear edge to help maintain good fuel atomization. The particulars of this are very specific to any given combustion chamber, according to its size, shape, depth, valve position, port texture approaching the valve and, to some degree, the influence of the rising piston crown.








What’s the angle?
A standard 3-angle valve job typically begins with a 60-degree cut in the port throat area to establish a transition to the 45-degree sealing angle that contacts the valve. Above that, a top cut of 15 to 35 degrees typically completes the transition into the combustion chamber. Today many performance valve jobs incorporate up to five different angles, including in some cases a 70- to 75-degree throat cut, depending on the port and its flow characteristics. Generally, inlet flow or exhaust flow does not lose velocity or become turbulent as long as the valve seat or valve angle transitions do not exceed 15 degrees.
The standard seat angle on the valve is 45 degrees. Some applications like Pro Stock drag racing use up to a 55-degree angle on the valve and the seat. This has been found to increase flow, but it is less durable and it cannot be used in supercharged or turbocharged applications because it can’t take the higher temperatures. A 30-degree back cut on the valve helps ease the transition to the seat and a sharp corner on the bottom of the intake valve margin helps resist reversion flow by interrupting its passage back into the port. For most performance applications the intake valve margin height is typically .050-inch and intake valves typically require a tight radius from the stem to the head to prevent low lift restriction.
Close-up of heavy duty exhaust valve reveals the swirl polished tulip shape which promotes good exit flow. Note the generous radius at the bottom of the margin to encourage exit flow.

Exhaust valves generally require the same angles, but use a narrower seat to help the valve cut through carbon buildup and maintain a positive seal. Valve margin should be .080-.090-inch tall to provide durability under higher temperatures and it should have a radius at the bottom to encourage exhaust gas flow around the valve. A tulip shape is often used on exhaust valves to encourage smoother flow.
“This works well, compared to tight radius of intake valves because exhaust gases are still under pressure and can’t wait to get out,” says Urrutia. “Intake mixtures have little relative pressure and must be coaxed into the cylinder through port dynamics.”





Tool steel retainers (left) offer light weight and exceptional wear and strength properties for most racing applications. Ferrea Pro Series Titanium retainers (right) are precision CNC machined and offer up to 40 percent more weight reduction to support extreme engine speeds.

Best valve materials
Stainless steel and titanium are the primary materials used in manufacturing performance engine valves. Stainless valves are universally suited for most high performance applications, offering good service in moderate boosted applications. With the exception of some race-specific applications, almost all aftermarket performance cylinder heads come with stainless-steel valves that are suitable for street and bracket racing requirements, including moderately boosted applications. All normally aspirated racing engines that turn high rpm should use much lighter titanium valves.
“Titanium valves offer multiple benefits, despite their higher initial cost,” says Urrutia.
Less mass inertia allows a reduction in valve-spring rates and puts less strain on the entire valve train. Titanium valves must be used with bronze valve guides. Ferrea valves have a proprietary Chrome Nitride coating (CrN) or a diamond-like coating (DLC) to provide rapid heat dissipation and wear reduction while reducing delaminating and flaking from valve flex. Titanium valves generally do not have hardened tips, so they must be used with steel lash caps to prevent damage. Typical clearance is approximately 0.0007 to 0.0009-inch.
Engine valves, particularly exhaust valves, often experience temperatures exceeding 1,600 degrees F in the combustion chamber along with exposure to intake manifold temperatures as low as -25 degrees. Inconel is an exhaust valve material often specified to resist the higher temperatures associated with turbocharged and supercharged applications.
“The extreme temperature gradient in many boosted applications requires more exotic materials like Inconel to resist thermal fatigue,” says Urrutia.
Inconel endures temperatures up to 1,800 degrees and is a popular choice for highly boosted engines. More hostile environments with very high boost pressures or exotic fuels like nitromethane can use of various Ferrea super-alloy valves that operate comfortably in the 2000-2400 degree range with some that handle even 2,600-2,700 degrees (see chart above).








Manufacturing valves
Gun-drilled hollow stem valves are up to 20% lighter to reduce valve spring pressure requirements and improve valve train dynamics. Ferrea valves also incorporate undercut stems to further reduce weight and improve flow.

In the manufacturing process, valves are die-forged at high temperature, heat treated and stress relieved, centerless ground and CNC machined to required specs. The stems are hard chromed and then micro or swirl polished, depending on the valve series. High-heat, high-stress applications can specify a Bimetallic forging that incorporates the most appropriate alloy mix for each section of the valve. Bimetallic valves are inertia welded from two different alloys with the weld point located high enough to always remain inside the valve guide. This is the only approved method for aerospace valve applications. Bimetallic valves receive the same finish treatment as 1-piece forged valves, including very precise hard chroming on the stems. More advanced applications can select from the various alloys provided, and they can also choose hollow stem valves with gun-drilled and micro-polished hollow stem cavities.
“Hollow-stem valves offer an average 20% weight reduction on a typical small block valve,” says Urrutia.
Custom orders can also specify hollow-stemmed, sodium-filled hollow valves to achieve weight reduction and provide better heat dissipation from critical areas.
Ferrea also offers its Super-Flo valve with an undercut or necked-down stem at the base of the valve near the head. This configuration is sometimes called a “crutch valve” because it’s useful for improving flow on older stock-type cast-iron heads with poor port designs. Super-Flo valves are made of stainless steel and they are very reliable even with the reduction in material around the flow area.
“It’s a very good modification for muscle car restoration applications with original heads,” says Urrutia. “Some modern aftermarket heads use them to raise the flow numbers of their current heads.”




Selecting valves
Some head applications also require longer valves on the order of +.100-inch, +.200-inch or longer. Ferrea services these valve lengths as well. The accompanying chart lists typical stock valve lengths for popular domestic performance engines and builders can use the valve diagram to order specific lengths that differ from the norm. Ferrea can also specify tip and lock modifications and the desired margin height, if the requirement differs from stock. And for naturally aspirated combinations seeking more compression ratio, Ferrea’s 5000 Series includes flat-faced valves to help reduce the volume of the combustion space.
Intake valve (left) has a 30° back cut above the seat and a thin margin with a sharp edge on the bottom to discourage inlet tract reversion. Corresponding exhaust valve has a thicker margin to resist higher temperatures and a generous radius on the bottom to encourage exit flow around the valve. Intake valves use a nail head configuration to avoid flow restriction.

Many engine shops and home engine builders rely on aftermarket performance cylinder heads that come fully assembled and ready to run. For the most part these heads offer great performance and rarely cause problems. But top engine builders will always disassemble them and check everything, including the valve-seat angles, seat depth, position and width, concentricity and contact pattern, valve-stem height, coil bind and installed valve-spring height. That’s the minimum required, and aftermarket head manufacturers usually hit it right on the money for mass produced cylinder heads.
“It’s generally sufficient for 90% of all performance applications, but more performance is still available for those willing to sweat the details,” sums up Urrutia, “particularly when it comes to valves.” flow.
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Old 05-20-2013, 04:34 PM   #72
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SC2150, Nice!

Has anyone looked into water/methanol injection to help reduce deposit formation?

I'm looking back at Toyota/Lexus and their port injector concept to help reduce deposits and allow detergents to do their job. Running a port injector seemed a bit too romantic and complicated for me... But a 50/50 mix of water methanol from a proper system like Snow's or something seems like a good idea without too much fuss.

Couple that with a catch can and at least one has some fluid action...

I've used injection for higher boosted items in the past and it works. This just seems like a more practical application where you get some mild natural power gains coupled with something to help wash the system.
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Yes, most definitely reduces this....any engine builder can attest to it keeping valves and piston tops cleaner. Good point.

Here is the results when all works correctly and the deposits are stopped and rings free back up:

Hey Tracy, Just wanted to thank you, and everyone at RevXtreme. I bought a catch can from you, for my 2005 CTS. Well since installing it i'm not consuming any oil anymore. I've had a close eye on the oil level since i have installed it and it hasn't used a drop. I don't know how or what that catch can has done to prevent the oil consumption. (I've read your tech tips article and understand the concept of how a catch can work.) I guess i am just baffeled that it something so simple like that could work.

Anyway just wanted to thank you. I was at my last wits end with this car and was about to put it back on the market, after the dealer replaced two motors under warrenty.

I'll be purchasing another catch can from you in the future. I have a 2000 Camaro SS that is getting a turbo as we speak, as a fun project street car.

But thanks again. It was definetly worth the wait.

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SC2150, Nice!

Has anyone looked into water/methanol injection to help reduce deposit formation?

I'm looking back at Toyota/Lexus and their port injector concept to help reduce deposits and allow detergents to do their job. Running a port injector seemed a bit too romantic and complicated for me... But a 50/50 mix of water methanol from a proper system like Snow's or something seems like a good idea without too much fuss.

Couple that with a catch can and at least one has some fluid action...

I've used injection for higher boosted items in the past and it works. This just seems like a more practical application where you get some mild natural power gains coupled with something to help wash the system.
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Old 05-26-2013, 11:11 AM   #74
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Hey guys, im kinda late on this post but had a few questions. Im a BMW tech at a dealership and can vouch first hand about carbon build up on intake valves on a direct injected engine. The N54 twin turbo 6 was very bad about it, and our diesel engines have the same issues...I'm curious how you guys are cleaning the intake ports/valves?? For years we were cleaning them by hand with throttle body cleaner/carbon cleaner. BMW has since come up with a "carbon blaster"...its a device that uses walnut shells,compressed air, and a shop vac to clean the intake ports. Its amazing..its now taking us maybe 2 hours to do a complete cleaning compared to the 6-8 it used to take,and on top of that the intake ports and valves look brand new! its badass. The attachment that goes on the shop vac is the same shape as the intake port on the head, on that attachment is a hole for the walnut shell blaster nozzle. you stick the shop-vac attachment on the head, turn the vacuum on, hook your compressed air line to the walnut shell blaster, insert the walnut shell blaster nozzle thru the hole on the vacuum attachment and pull the trigger (intake valves closed of course) this will start blasting the walnut shells down the intake port and onto the backside of the valve..release the trigger and suck up the shells. Remove the nozzle and inspect the port..repeat as needed until it is cleaned. It really makes life much easier. Sorry for the long boring post, but i know much more about BMW engines then i do Chevy engines..but as long as you have an adapter that matches the intake port shape of the engine your cleaning this device will work on any engine. For all i know you guys already have something like this im not sure..but anyways..goodluck with your data logging man and i hope you can figure something out
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Cybergray, most people are either having the dealer do an upper induction cleaning (a chemical cleaning), or are doing it themselves with Seafoam or something similar, or they're doing this: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=288997.

I've heard of the walnut shell method BMW was using. I also heard it was like $800 to have it done.

Here is a recent post I made showing the build up on my valves: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6572760 .
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Cybergray, most people are either having the dealer do an upper induction cleaning (a chemical cleaning), or are doing it themselves with Seafoam or something similar, or they're doing this: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=288997.

I've heard of the walnut shell method BMW was using. I also heard it was like $800 to have it done.

Here is a recent post I made showing the build up on my valves: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6572760 .

Just reading through some old threads, there's a lot of good information here.
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I see the oil/moisture cocktail cleaned out of my Elite Catch Can every oil change.
If it's in the can and not traveling through the intake manifold and over the valves, then I'm sold. Don't need to be a rocket scientist, or "engineer", to figure that one out.
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lol 54k miles on my car with no catch can. bought it used. i need to get this thing cleaned out.... wonder how much crap built up
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I will say this, I bought an Elite Engineering Catch Can just to see how much oil that is thrown into the intake and I was shocked ........ People may bad mouth buying one but I'm glad I purchased one because I can't imagine all that oil being dumped directly into the intake area is any good ..... When I figure out how to load more images I will post what my catch can sucks up ...
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Here's what you need to use:

http://www.crcindustries.com/catalog...sers/05319.jpg

Here's the video on it.

http://youtu.be/siRwcnj8-OE

If you do this at regular intervals, no catch can is needed.
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LoL .... or just buy a catch can ...... stop the oil from entering in the first place, problem solved ....
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Here's what you need to use:

http://www.crcindustries.com/catalog...sers/05319.jpg

Here's the video on it.

http://youtu.be/siRwcnj8-OE

If you do this at regular intervals, no catch can is needed.

And when you do this and all that junk you just cleaned off enters into the combustion chamber and scores the walls, what do you plan to do next.

I would seuggest going with the next post. .....

I have had my catch can since 13K miles. I am now at 87K miles. Mine collects approx. 1 oz per 1000 miles. That means I have saved over 74 oz. of junk getting into my intake and on to the valves. That is over a half gallon of crap.

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LoL .... or just buy a catch can ...... stop the oil from entering in the first place, problem solved ....


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