5th Gen Camaro curb weight updates. Sticky thread?

[cactus_man]

I have heard that the Zeta platform is a little on the heavy side. I hope it comes in at about 3600.

[MerF]

Find out Monday.

[pruettfan]

I read today that the "leaked" info was 3700. There is no way the car will be less than 3700. The fact is you cannot find a production car of this size and power unless it is an exotic that is less than 3700 lbs. BMW went to great lengths to reduce weight on the M3 and came out with a 3774 weight. With todays safety standards and demands for power seats, etc etc we will continue to see high weights. I am sure we will be looking at 3800 plus a few pounds on the Z28. I have gotten over it but it seems that some claim to be basing their decision to buy on the weight rather than the overall package and performance.

[Design1stCode2nd]

Inside line is quoting 3700 and change for the V6 and 3900 for the 8 for whatever it's worth..

[The_Blur]

Originally Posted by pruettfan

I read today that the "leaked" info was 3700. There is no way the car will be less than 3700. The fact is you cannot find a production car of this size and power unless it is an exotic that is less than 3700 lbs. BMW went to great lengths to reduce weight on the M3 and came out with a 3774 weight. With todays safety standards and demands for power seats, etc etc we will continue to see high weights. I am sure we will be looking at 3800 plus a few pounds on the Z28. I have gotten over it but it seems that some claim to be basing their decision to buy on the weight rather than the overall package and performance.

The fact that some people buy on weight really bothers me. They can strip down the extra weight if it really matters and keep the new car. It isn't that hard to make significant weight reductions.

[theholycow]

Originally Posted by The_Blur

The fact that some people buy on weight really bothers me. They can strip down the extra weight if it really matters and keep the new car. It isn't that hard to make significant weight reductions.

It is actually quite difficult to remove significant amounts of weight from a car. Most of it is structural; the huge volumes of electronics weigh little, and the backseat too. Even if you strip out all the trim and soundproofing you don't get much.

[Mr. Wyndham]

It is the structure. This car is built like a TANK, (so don't plan on anything failing anytime soon.)
But the weight is what it is, and the BMW example is a good one to help explain why. When you pump this much power out of a car this size, it has to be able to handle it without turning into a pretzel. So hoping for a featherweight will be a fruitless venture. Perhaps next generation it can be lightened a bit, but don't fall into the assumption that the car will RIDE like it's 3900lbs. It'll feel like much less, I'm sure; thanks to the brilliant people on the Camaro team.

[TFord]

I dont see what the problem witht the weight is??? The GT-R weighs 3700???

sorry I had to do it!

[Muscle Master]

To be honest, I hope its a pig

[rolnslo]

Originally Posted by theholycow

It is actually quite difficult to remove significant amounts of weight from a car. Most of it is structural; the huge volumes of electronics weigh little, and the backseat too. Even if you strip out all the trim and soundproofing you don't get much.

Um, they managed to do it for the Challenger Drag Race Package. It is possible, but it's all about how far you are willing to go with the trimming...

Mopar shortened the Challenger's 116-inch wheelbase half an inch and cut weight by eliminating the windshield wiper assembly, complete HVAC system, all airbag components, the rear seats, the power steering system, exhaust system and underbody heat shields, cross-car and side impact door beams, rear bumper beam and rear deck lid spoiler. Mopar even removed the body sealer, sound deadener and undercoat from the factory, and achieved a final weight that's 1,000 pounds lighter than the standard SRT8, which weighs 4,152 pounds.

[Supermans]

Well, I prefer cars that weigh a bit more over the light weight ones. Always have and always will. I am not a drag racer and if I was, then for sure I would want the car as light as possible, and probably get a corvette.. However in this case, the corvette doesn't do it for me and looks plain Jane at this point. Nobody turns their heads when they see a corvette like they do a dodge viper for example.. In either case, this camaro for the first year will turn heads and those painted yellow with black stripes will always get a glance and someone pointing to it saying the words "Bumblebee" as all those black Pontiac Trans-Am's did that looked like KITT. Overall it is good to see the yellow V^ as the pinup picture that is leaked on the front page as that most reminds people of the Bumblebee GTO in Transformers. A huge marketing factor that Transformers 2 will have in the sales of future Camaro's...

[The_Blur]

Originally Posted by theholycow

It is actually quite difficult to remove significant amounts of weight from a car. Most of it is structural; the huge volumes of electronics weigh little, and the backseat too. Even if you strip out all the trim and soundproofing you don't get much.

If you want it to run 9s at the track, you might be in some trouble with a heavy car, but if you want it to perform, there are some lightening tricks that reduce times and make it lighter.

• A quality carbon fiber hood and trunk are a very common pair in the aftermarket.
• Lightweight spoilers are readily available.
• Racing rims weigh very little. They may not be as gorgeous as Giovannas, but they perform at the track.
• You can strip the entire interior. Take out the dash and replace it with carbon fiber. Take out the carpet. Take out the door panels, and replace them with carbon fiber.
• Replace the driver seat with a lightweight racing seat.
• As previously stated, remove all soundproofing.
• There is plenty of internal engine work that can be done. I'm talking about pistons, camshafts, and other lightweight parts. These won't treat your wallet nicely, but neither will anything else listed.
• You can always go custom with a fiberglass or carbon fiber body. Plenty of fiberglass body kits are available, but they aren't as light as custom parts.
• Do the lightweight driver mod. That's right. Go on a diet, fatso!

These will reduce weight, and some of them will make the car more aerodynamic. It won't take off more than 1500 lbs, but it will make a big difference.

[Congoman775]

Originally Posted by Muscle Master

To be honest, I hope its a pig

hey hey hey!!

who do you think made this car??? dodge???


ha sorry had to do it

[theholycow]

Originally Posted by rolnslo

Um, they managed to do it for the Challenger Drag Race Package. It is possible, but it's all about how far you are willing to go with the trimming...

Pfft...that's a dodge, it's easy to remove weight. Start by removing the engine, body, and frame. Take them to the scrap yard, steel is getting $250/ton right now.

cut weight by eliminating the windshield wiper assembly, complete HVAC system, all airbag components, the rear seats, the power steering system, exhaust system and underbody heat shields, cross-car and side impact door beams, rear bumper beam and rear deck lid spoiler. Mopar even removed the body sealer, sound deadener and undercoat

LOL, this is what happens when someone (like me ) makes blanket statements (like it's difficult to remove weight) without qualifying the conditions. I was talking about a comfortable, practical, legal daily driver...

Originally Posted by The_Blur

• A quality carbon fiber hood and trunk
• Racing rims
• You can strip the entire interior. Take out the dash and replace it with carbon fiber. Take out the carpet. Take out the door panels, and replace them with carbon fiber.
• Replace the driver seat with a lightweight racing seat.
• As previously stated, remove all soundproofing.
• There is plenty of internal engine work that can be done. I'm talking about pistons, camshafts, and other lightweight parts. These won't treat your wallet nicely, but neither will anything else listed.
• You can always go custom with a fiberglass or carbon fiber body.

...and, at that, an affordable comfortable practical legal daily driver.

Yes, with a big budget and/or the willingness to sacrifice a lot of the car, you could certainly reduce its weight. In fact, with enough money, you could reduce it down to 1000 pounds...