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Ace0751 · 08-18-2016, 08:18 AM

With his tune, it gets aggressive at 3k rpms meaning it will jump into 2nd, 3rd, etc. If you keep it under 3k, the shifts won't jump. I had him dyno tune mine and love the aggressive shifts, if I want a nice smooth ride ill keep it under 3-3500 rpms.

StandOnit · 08-18-2016, 03:10 PM

I own a 2014 Camaro 2 SS 16000 miles on it., it is a Automatic same tires that came with the car, Pirelli. I got a little crazy and decided to try and do a burn out.. Several Times. I have to say, I was pretty (very) disappointed to find I could not get the tires to chirp let alone spin.. . Note: I turned off the Traction Control and stuck it in Manual making sure I was in First Gear, Power Braking the car. I also find that the car will only go to about 1500 RPM while Power Braking no matter how hard I push the peddle to the floor. The car just seems to hesitate then go but never spinning the tires. I tried the Fuss Pull Scenario and I have 93 Octane in the car all the time. I am going to purchase a extended Warranty from Warrantech
Customer Edge just in case. I really do not want to void that Warranty with a Tune, I feel it is unreasonable to have to do a Tune . I tried to talk to one Chevy dealer but did not get far. One dealer would not even talk to me because I did not buy the car at their Dealership. !
Here's the big question...Is this the best the car will be without some modification?

Not trying to tick anyone off but I do NOT see a lot of Gen 5 Camaro's at the Car Meets on Long Island and we have a lot of meets here, Mostly I see Challengers and Mustangs, do they know something I don't.. ??
I do really like the Camaro I think its the overall better car. Was determined to get one, determined enough to worked 4 years at night in a second job just to buy it.! ;-[
Sorry if I sound Negative. Again no offense to anyone. Just looking for any ideas other than a Tune or anything that will void the Drive Train Warranty and or the Extended Warranty.
Safe Driving and thank you.

qcman · 08-18-2016, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by StandOnit

I own a 2014 Camaro 2 SS 16000 miles on it., it is a Automatic same tires that came with the car, Pirelli. I got a little crazy and decided to try and do a burn out.. Several Times. I have to say, I was pretty (very) disappointed to find I could not get the tires to chirp let alone spin.. . Note: I turned off the Traction Control and stuck it in Manual making sure I was in First Gear, Power Braking the car. I also find that the car will only go to about 1500 RPM while Power Braking no matter how hard I push the peddle to the floor. The car just seems to hesitate then go but never spinning the tires. I tried the Fuss Pull Scenario and I have 93 Octane in the car all the time. I am going to purchase a extended Warranty from Warrantech
Customer Edge just in case. I really do not want to void that Warranty with a Tune, I feel it is unreasonable to have to do a Tune . I tried to talk to one Chevy dealer but did not get far. One dealer would not even talk to me because I did not buy the car at their Dealership. !
Here's the big question...Is this the best the car will be without some modification?

Not trying to tick anyone off but I do NOT see a lot of Gen 5 Camaro's at the Car Meets on Long Island and we have a lot of meets here, Mostly I see Challengers and Mustangs, do they know something I don't.. ??
I do really like the Camaro I think its the overall better car. Was determined to get one, determined enough to worked 4 years at night in a second job just to buy it.! ;-[
Sorry if I sound Negative. Again no offense to anyone. Just looking for any ideas other than a Tune or anything that will void the Drive Train Warranty and or the Extended Warranty.
Safe Driving and thank you.

Because of the stock converter stall in the car it won't let you rev past around 1500 rpm with the brake on and that is perfectly normal. A higher stall would but that is a fairly serious mod especially just to spin tires... And Pirellis are grippy tires so they don't spin that easy especially if they are warm.

A tune does not always void a warranty but it certainly can and likely would if something serious like an engine or trans failure occurred. As for the Ex warranty that is a personal choice but I think your money could be better spent elsewhere. The Camaro is a solid car and a very reliable one too by all accounts. You are gambling that it will fail when you buy one of those...

DsCamaro1 · 08-18-2016, 03:49 PM

If you want to burn up your tires on a automatic get a line lock kit. Then take it off if you need any warranty work done. A good tune will help but I don't think they can track a line lock set up since you are just WOT. But I'm not sure exactly what the computer can record.

StandOnit · 08-19-2016, 12:51 PM

Thank you both for your quick reply. It confirms that there is nothing wrong with my car. It is what it is. Not sure why there is a traction control button? Good Luck.

1KillerSS · 08-19-2016, 01:03 PM

Get a tune and you can blow your tires off all day long. It's prevented by your stock torque management settings. A tune can change that. Better than other options.

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Moto-Mojo · 08-19-2016, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by StandOnit

Thank you both for your quick reply. It confirms that there is nothing wrong with my car. It is what it is. Not sure why there is a traction control button? Good Luck.

There is plenty of video evidence both here and on YouTube illustrating EXACTLY why there is a traction control button.

PalmerGA · 08-19-2016, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by StandOnit

Thank you both for your quick reply. It confirms that there is nothing wrong with my car. It is what it is. Not sure why there is a traction control button? Good Luck.

When my SS was stock (L99), I had no problem at all smoking the tires with TC/ST off. A little pressure on the brake and tromp on the gas and they'd break loose big time. That's with P-Zeros also.

StandOnit · 08-22-2016, 11:18 AM

PalmerGA, Not sure what the difference between your then Stock SS and my Stock SS but I guess I drew the short straw. I have noticed (read) some folks do not have this issue and others do. I guess the torque management has a lot to do with it. I am sure the Chevrolet Engineers know for sure. I never thought to try and smoke the tires with the car Salesman in the car with me.. should have. Thanks

Fireman124 · 08-22-2016, 09:33 PM

I agree with Palmer I have a 2012 and the trick was to make sure both tc and st are off. If one is on you won't break the tires loose.

14ssrs6man · 08-22-2016, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by StandOnit

PalmerGA, Not sure what the difference between your then Stock SS and my Stock SS but I guess I drew the short straw. I have noticed (read) some folks do not have this issue and others do. I guess the torque management has a lot to do with it. I am sure the Chevrolet Engineers know for sure. I never thought to try and smoke the tires with the car Salesman in the car with me.. should have. Thanks

You do realize to turn off the nannies you hold the button for 10 secs.?

2012OrangeVert · 08-22-2016, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by StandOnit

PalmerGA, Not sure what the difference between your then Stock SS and my Stock SS but I guess I drew the short straw. I have noticed (read) some folks do not have this issue and others do. I guess the torque management has a lot to do with it. I am sure the Chevrolet Engineers know for sure. I never thought to try and smoke the tires with the car Salesman in the car with me.. should have. Thanks

Ok, me and my buddy both went through this too. We found out we were not taking traction control completely off. If you have car in auto and then hold down the TV button for seven seconds or more , you will go into competitive mode. Which still has some traction control on. Which is where you probably have been at. But if you drop it down into manual mode and then hold the TC button down for the seven seconds or more, it will turn on both lights , but not say competitive mode. At that point you should be able to brake torque your car and smoke the tires. It worked that way on my car and a buddies car both. Give it a try.

SlingShot · 08-23-2016, 09:09 AM

Gee Wally, my SS has zero problems lighting up the rears with everything turned on ...

qcman · 08-23-2016, 11:10 AM

I think the torque management is a big factor in this too. After the tune my car spins when going into 2nd most of the time and this is with all the nannies on. I think the TC does less than the actual torque managemet does to prevent wheelspin. On my Silverado truck any slippage at all engages the TC.

08-18-2016, 08:18 AM	#15
Ace0751 GEN5 Detail Drives: 2011 Synergy Series 2SS Convertible Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Northeast, OH Posts: 1,986	With his tune, it gets aggressive at 3k rpms meaning it will jump into 2nd, 3rd, etc. If you keep it under 3k, the shifts won't jump. I had him dyno tune mine and love the aggressive shifts, if I want a nice smooth ride ill keep it under 3-3500 rpms. __________________ Roto-Fab CAI, Borla ATAK Exhaust System, Stainless Power Headers, RX Performance Catch Can, ACS T4 Splitter, Oracle side markers, Dyno Tuned by RDP Motorsports

08-18-2016, 03:10 PM	#16
StandOnit Drives: Camaro 2014 2 SS RS Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: New York Posts: 6	Muscle Car Atrophy I own a 2014 Camaro 2 SS 16000 miles on it., it is a Automatic same tires that came with the car, Pirelli. I got a little crazy and decided to try and do a burn out.. Several Times. I have to say, I was pretty (very) disappointed to find I could not get the tires to chirp let alone spin.. . Note: I turned off the Traction Control and stuck it in Manual making sure I was in First Gear, Power Braking the car. I also find that the car will only go to about 1500 RPM while Power Braking no matter how hard I push the peddle to the floor. The car just seems to hesitate then go but never spinning the tires. I tried the Fuss Pull Scenario and I have 93 Octane in the car all the time. I am going to purchase a extended Warranty from Warrantech Customer Edge just in case. I really do not want to void that Warranty with a Tune, I feel it is unreasonable to have to do a Tune . I tried to talk to one Chevy dealer but did not get far. One dealer would not even talk to me because I did not buy the car at their Dealership. ! Here's the big question...Is this the best the car will be without some modification? Not trying to tick anyone off but I do NOT see a lot of Gen 5 Camaro's at the Car Meets on Long Island and we have a lot of meets here, Mostly I see Challengers and Mustangs, do they know something I don't.. ?? I do really like the Camaro I think its the overall better car. Was determined to get one, determined enough to worked 4 years at night in a second job just to buy it.! ;-[ Sorry if I sound Negative. Again no offense to anyone. Just looking for any ideas other than a Tune or anything that will void the Drive Train Warranty and or the Extended Warranty. Safe Driving and thank you.

08-19-2016, 01:03 PM	#20
1KillerSS Too much is never enough! Drives: AGP TT SS [COTW] 4/20/15 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 4,149 View My Garage	Get a tune and you can blow your tires off all day long. It's prevented by your stock torque management settings. A tune can change that. Better than other options. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ AGP TT kit, 54/57 Forged rotating assembly, Custom grind cam... Dual nozzle meth, ID850's, Livernois dual fuel pumps, ECS BAP, 25% UDP, 3 inch Magnaflow catback with X pipe, Mantic 9000 clutch, DSS 1000hp axles, DSS aluminum driveshaft, ZL1 rear end, solid subframe bushings, HE differential offset bushings, BMR Trailing arm, BMR toe rods, Lingenfelter LNC-2000,SJM Line Lock. 747 whp 714wtq *Build thread* http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...55#post8107855

08-23-2016, 09:09 AM	#27
SlingShot Drives: 2012 ZL1 - #670 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Seminole, Fl. Posts: 8,009	Gee Wally, my SS has zero problems lighting up the rears with everything turned on ... __________________

08-18-2016, 03:49 PM	#18
DsCamaro1 Drives: 2011 SIM 2SS RS L99 Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Chicago Posts: 279 View My Garage	If you want to burn up your tires on a automatic get a line lock kit. Then take it off if you need any warranty work done. A good tune will help but I don't think they can track a line lock set up since you are just WOT. But I'm not sure exactly what the computer can record.

08-19-2016, 12:51 PM	#19
StandOnit Drives: Camaro 2014 2 SS RS Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: New York Posts: 6	Thank you both for your quick reply. It confirms that there is nothing wrong with my car. It is what it is. Not sure why there is a traction control button? Good Luck.

08-22-2016, 11:18 AM	#23
StandOnit Drives: Camaro 2014 2 SS RS Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: New York Posts: 6	PalmerGA, Not sure what the difference between your then Stock SS and my Stock SS but I guess I drew the short straw. I have noticed (read) some folks do not have this issue and others do. I guess the torque management has a lot to do with it. I am sure the Chevrolet Engineers know for sure. I never thought to try and smoke the tires with the car Salesman in the car with me.. should have. Thanks

08-22-2016, 09:33 PM	#24
Fireman124 Drives: 45th convertible ss Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Illinois Posts: 108	I agree with Palmer I have a 2012 and the trick was to make sure both tc and st are off. If one is on you won't break the tires loose.

08-23-2016, 11:10 AM	#28
qcman Drives: 2013 Camaro 2SS RDP Tuned L99 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Ottawa, Canada eh? Posts: 1,889	I think the torque management is a big factor in this too. After the tune my car spins when going into 2nd most of the time and this is with all the nannies on. I think the TC does less than the actual torque managemet does to prevent wheelspin. On my Silverado truck any slippage at all engages the TC.