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HOJO · 08-22-2016, 10:09 AM

No matter how you look at it or which Gen you like better, Camaro sales are way down. That speaks volumes by itself.

Barbosa · 08-22-2016, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by HOJO

No matter how you look at it or which Gen you like better, Camaro sales are way down. That speaks volumes by itself.

Why is that? Mustang sales are up in 2016. Growing up in the 70s and 80s Camaro was king while Mustang was not so popular. Chevy needs to up their game, build a better ride and surpass the Mustang once and for all.

sherob · 08-22-2016, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Barbosa

Why is that? Mustang sales are up in 2016. Growing up in the 70s and 80s Camaro was king while Mustang was not so popular. Chevy needs to up their game, build a better ride and surpass the Mustang once and for all.

They do build a better ride, and they did up their game... but people do judge a book by it's cover... and they either don't like the cover, or don't like the cost listed on that cover.

PDXSSCE · 08-22-2016, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Barbosa

Why is that? Mustang sales are up in 2016. Growing up in the 70s and 80s Camaro was king while Mustang was not so popular. Chevy needs to up their game, build a better ride and surpass the Mustang once and for all.

It's lack of marketing. Ford promoted the new Mustang for months before it's release - they even put one on top of the Empire State Building & were on all the news programs. Only people who follow the Camaro are aware there's a new model.

Tyrin · 08-23-2016, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by PDXSSCE

It's lack of marketing. Ford promoted the new Mustang for months before it's release - they even put one on top of the Empire State Building & were on all the news programs. Only people who follow the Camaro are aware there's a new model.

This is true, and the reason I feel Chevrolet doesn't market the Camaro hard is because they have a belief that it is like their Corvette. They don't realize that the Camaro has actual domestic competition, unlike the Corvette. They figure they'll sell every one like the Corvette, despite the only time a Corvette is built is when its sold.

43Camaro · 08-23-2016, 12:00 PM

90% of people buy these cars based on how they look. If sales are down it speaks volumes on the overall design and staying power of the 6th Generation. I would love one based on the performance upgrades which I appreciate, but the appearance is what sells, hence they are now putting four cylinder engines in these cars. I see ten lesser model Mustangs to every one 5.0 I see, this just tells you people are opting for convenience, style, and fuel economy over straight performance.

If your wife gains a bunch of weight after the wedding you don't divorce her, you just pay less attention to her. The 5th Generation was the wedding, 7 years later she just gained a little weight on the style side of course.

http://www.torquenews.com/106/why-is...selling-better

Lacpac · 08-23-2016, 12:53 PM

In my opinion the characteristics of the 5th Gen appealed to different people than the 6th gen will. I bought the 5th gen for my wife because she had a `79 when we were dating, and once we were done with mini-vans and kids, I wanted her to have one again. We both favor the regular radio for it's retro dial look. We both don't like the look of the 6th Gens, for the same reason someone who is considering a Hyundai Genesis would rather have a 6th Gen than a 5th. Both Gens have a similar profile, but the front and rear are very Euro-panese. I'm not sure why but for some reason we both like the 2009 and 2017 Mustang but not the versions in-between. Maybe because the back of the 2017 looks wider and lower like a Camaro? If I were to buy new, I would probably go with the 2017 Mustang over the 6th Gen Camaro.

PDXSSCE · 08-23-2016, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Lacpac

...If I were to buy new, I would probably go with the 2017 Mustang over the 6th Gen Camaro.

BMR Sales · 08-23-2016, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Barbosa

Why is that? Mustang sales are up in 2016. Growing up in the 70s and 80s Camaro was king while Mustang was not so popular. Chevy needs to up their game, build a better ride and surpass the Mustang once and for all.

That's because in the '70s & 80's the Mustang was complete crap. Remember the Mustang II?

BMR Sales · 08-23-2016, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by myold88

A '69 Camaro is totally outdated by the '70 Camaro. Guess which one is the most popular,
and car for car worth the most today? Being current has nothing to do with cool unless
your talking about the average new cookie cutter car out there.

2nd Gens Camaros are gaining in popularity big time!

The 2nd Gen Firebird have always been more popular than the 1st!

BMR Sales · 08-23-2016, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by PDXSSCE

I gotta disagree with you there. The 1970 1/2 Z28/RS is the best looking Camaro ever.

Oh Hell Ya!

PDXSSCE · 08-23-2016, 03:52 PM

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Oh Hell Ya!

MrChrisLS3 · 08-23-2016, 03:55 PM

Well, the styling is subjective. Me, I like it. I know that it has lost some of that "muscle car" look, but really, that has a lot to do with it not really being a "muscle car" anymore.

What I really do like about the Gen 6 is that, in terms of all around performance, and design as well, the Camaro is as close to the current Corvette as it has ever been. Considering you can get into an SS for almost 20 grand less than the Corvette, (depending on options) that's still a pretty good deal.

Why the slump in sales? Y'all could be right about the looks, who knows why people don't buy a particular car? Most people don't talk about that outside of a focused forum like this. Some has to do with no fleet/rental sales I'm sure. Some may be Chevy shot themselves in the foot with the 20% deal just before the release, took potential buyers out of the market if they just bought a new '15. Then it may be the fact that they intro's the 1LE and ZL1 so soon. Perhaps there are more people waiting on those cars as opposed to buying the base SS right now.

PDXSSCE · 08-23-2016, 05:00 PM

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Well, the styling is subjective. Me, I like it. I know that it has lost some of that "muscle car" look, but really, that has a lot to do with it not really being a "muscle car" anymore...

It's definitely not a 'muscle car' anymore. Both Ford & GM have begun to replace the term with 'sports car' in some of the new Mustang & Camaro marketing.
I'm not saying it's a bad thing, it's simply an evolution.

08-23-2016, 12:00 PM	#174
43Camaro Drives: [COTW 8/3/15] 2010 Camaro SS L99 Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Mooresville NC Posts: 434 View My Garage	90% of people buy these cars based on how they look. If sales are down it speaks volumes on the overall design and staying power of the 6th Generation. I would love one based on the performance upgrades which I appreciate, but the appearance is what sells, hence they are now putting four cylinder engines in these cars. I see ten lesser model Mustangs to every one 5.0 I see, this just tells you people are opting for convenience, style, and fuel economy over straight performance. If your wife gains a bunch of weight after the wedding you don't divorce her, you just pay less attention to her. The 5th Generation was the wedding, 7 years later she just gained a little weight on the style side of course. http://www.torquenews.com/106/why-is...selling-better __________________ A Little bit of power. ALL WORK DONE BY ME! Just added 2021 ZL1 1LE to the Stable! https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=418273

08-22-2016, 10:09 AM	#169
HOJO Drives: 2014 Camaro SS/RS 1LE 1967 Camaro Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Fort Wayne, IN Posts: 890	No matter how you look at it or which Gen you like better, Camaro sales are way down. That speaks volumes by itself.

08-23-2016, 12:53 PM	#175
Lacpac Drives: 2012 Crystal Red Tintcoat RS Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 491 View My Garage	In my opinion the characteristics of the 5th Gen appealed to different people than the 6th gen will. I bought the 5th gen for my wife because she had a `79 when we were dating, and once we were done with mini-vans and kids, I wanted her to have one again. We both favor the regular radio for it's retro dial look. We both don't like the look of the 6th Gens, for the same reason someone who is considering a Hyundai Genesis would rather have a 6th Gen than a 5th. Both Gens have a similar profile, but the front and rear are very Euro-panese. I'm not sure why but for some reason we both like the 2009 and 2017 Mustang but not the versions in-between. Maybe because the back of the 2017 looks wider and lower like a Camaro? If I were to buy new, I would probably go with the 2017 Mustang over the 6th Gen Camaro.

08-23-2016, 03:55 PM	#181
MrChrisLS3 Drives: 2018 1SS M6 Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Houston Posts: 2,617	Well, the styling is subjective. Me, I like it. I know that it has lost some of that "muscle car" look, but really, that has a lot to do with it not really being a "muscle car" anymore. What I really do like about the Gen 6 is that, in terms of all around performance, and design as well, the Camaro is as close to the current Corvette as it has ever been. Considering you can get into an SS for almost 20 grand less than the Corvette, (depending on options) that's still a pretty good deal. Why the slump in sales? Y'all could be right about the looks, who knows why people don't buy a particular car? Most people don't talk about that outside of a focused forum like this. Some has to do with no fleet/rental sales I'm sure. Some may be Chevy shot themselves in the foot with the 20% deal just before the release, took potential buyers out of the market if they just bought a new '15. Then it may be the fact that they intro's the 1LE and ZL1 so soon. Perhaps there are more people waiting on those cars as opposed to buying the base SS right now.