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DrkPhx · 10-16-2016, 04:48 PM

^^^ $399.

OVERPAR73 · 10-16-2016, 09:04 PM

I'm waiting on an estimate for the switch to the E85 system. I understand that I will need to change out my fuel pump to a three stage, change out my fuel lines and increase my injectors (looking at either ID 1300 or 1700) and a E85 switch at $400, so I can run either the E85 or 91,93 octane fuel? You guys that have switched over to the E85 system please let us all know what the total cost of this system is and any short cuts or ideas, thanks!

STUNNAH · 10-16-2016, 11:31 PM

I priced a E85 conversion with ID850 injectors and install at 3k...The fuel pump and lines are the most expensive part of the kit $1200.00 to $1400.00...About $600.00 for the injectors and $300.00 to $400.00 for the sensor...$125.00 for a retune...The rest for labor and shop materials...

mrvenicess · 10-17-2016, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ZL1Kid_AL

Still on stock Cubes?? one of the highest Whp numbers I've seen for boost only. Especially through an Auto... Impressive if so

Still on stock cubes with a fairly soft tune for now and only at 12-13 lbs of boost. Mustang dyno. High compression, big valve, solid lifter cam, 8,000 rpm!

mrvenicess · 10-17-2016, 07:56 AM

Cost wise it ran me $3600 for the Fore triple pump set up installed, plus I upgraded my injectors from ID850s to ID1700s which cost me an additional $1650.

brick59 · 10-17-2016, 01:45 PM

It's not a cheap upgrade but I do all my work myself so that helps a lot, $1800 for the
Fore system $1550 for the ID 1300s, you'll be surprised how much fuel lines (ptfe) and fitting are and you'll need a lot of fittings. at my power level I was going to need the fuel system and injector upgrade anyway so doing E85 was the only way to go, just make sure the pumps, injectors, and fuel lines are E compatible.

sbmit · 10-18-2016, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by STUNNAH

I priced a E85 conversion with ID850 injectors and install at 3k...The fuel pump and lines are the most expensive part of the kit $1200.00 to $1400.00...About $600.00 for the injectors and $300.00 to $400.00 for the sensor...$125.00 for a retune...The rest for labor and shop materials...

Where are you getting ID850's for $600?

Can'tHave2MuchHP · 10-18-2016, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by mrvenicess

Still on stock cubes with a fairly soft tune for now and only at 12-13 lbs of boost. Mustang dyno. High compression, big valve, solid lifter cam, 8,000 rpm!

Wow that's crazy, 8,000 RPM? You're in Flat plane crank/Ferrari/Lamborghini/Porche area there. Awesome.

I'd love to see a video of your tach on a WOT run

mrvenicess · 10-18-2016, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Can'tHave2MuchHP

Wow that's crazy, 8,000 RPM? You're in Flat plane crank/Ferrari/Lamborghini/Porche area there. Awesome.

I'd love to see a video of your tach on a WOT run

I'm having issues posting on here but there are some on FB under Paul Hurlock, me, or on ZL1 Exclusive, and I believe Fountain Race Engines posted on FB a vid showing the tach. Our tachs only read to 7,000 so after that the needle just bounces. Gotta love a solid lifter cam!

EvilZL1 · 10-18-2016, 12:29 PM

E85 is always a great edition if the support is there

strickland03 · 10-18-2016, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DrkPhx

Definitely the way to go to help with power especially if you're heavily modded. I recently added the DSX flex fuel kit and I love it.

Agreed, LOVE mine. Especially not smelling like a lawn mower after a drive!!

97ChameleonTA · 10-18-2016, 05:17 PM

E85 is definitely one of the most bang for the buck mods you can do. I'm running the Fore triple setup with Deatschwerks 1500 injectors. I'm now at 698 RWHP and 741 RWTQ. Mind you, my car has no internal engine mods. I'm still considered a bolt-on car. Here's a before and after with the only change being the flex fuel setup.

DrkPhx · 10-18-2016, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by strickland03

Agreed, LOVE mine. Especially not smelling like a lawn mower after a drive!!

Lol. Isn't that the truth? Mine isn't that bad because I have a baby cam, but it sure does smell better and the car definitely runs better as well.

Mkn95u0 · 10-18-2016, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by LSA376

Oil change frequency must be done at half the interval of pump gas

This is the 1st time I've heard of this, i'm going to have to read into this.

edit: not that it should change much on my end since my oil changes are around 1500-2500 miles or after 2 race days, but still something i was unaware of.

10-16-2016, 09:04 PM	#16
OVERPAR73 2018 Garnet Red ZL1 conve Drives: 2013 & 2018 ZL1 vert Join Date: May 2009 Location: Des Moines, IA Posts: 1,472 View My Garage	I'm waiting on an estimate for the switch to the E85 system. I understand that I will need to change out my fuel pump to a three stage, change out my fuel lines and increase my injectors (looking at either ID 1300 or 1700) and a E85 switch at $400, so I can run either the E85 or 91,93 octane fuel? You guys that have switched over to the E85 system please let us all know what the total cost of this system is and any short cuts or ideas, thanks! __________________ Build Thread: 2018 ZL1 Vert Purchased (Overpar73)

10-16-2016, 11:31 PM	#17
STUNNAH "BEASTM*DE" Drives: 2013 ZL1 Black Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Tennessee Posts: 1,655 View My Garage	I priced a E85 conversion with ID850 injectors and install at 3k...The fuel pump and lines are the most expensive part of the kit $1200.00 to $1400.00...About $600.00 for the injectors and $300.00 to $400.00 for the sensor...$125.00 for a retune...The rest for labor and shop materials... __________________ Vengeance Racing Stage 1 Kit 575rwhp, 569 rwtq... Rims powder coated gloss black...BFG'S Comp 2 A/S... Dual 10" Kicker Comp S Subs 1200w...

10-17-2016, 01:45 PM	#20
brick59 Sucker Punch Drives: 2013 Black ZL1, 2022 Silverado ZR2 Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: N.E. Ohio Posts: 309	It's not a cheap upgrade but I do all my work myself so that helps a lot, $1800 for the Fore system $1550 for the ID 1300s, you'll be surprised how much fuel lines (ptfe) and fitting are and you'll need a lot of fittings. at my power level I was going to need the fuel system and injector upgrade anyway so doing E85 was the only way to go, just make sure the pumps, injectors, and fuel lines are E compatible. __________________ 427 Dart SHP Pro LS Block, Callies Magnum Crank, Callies Ultra I Beam Rods, Diamond Pistons, AGP twin Turbos 6865, Mast heads, Cam Motion LLR cam, Morel tie bar lifters, Crower roller rockers, NW 103MM TB, ID2600 XDS, Fore Triple, DSX, E85, ARH Turbo Headers, Corsa, Jakes stage 5 4L80, Circle D, RPM Roll Bar, BMR, Carlyle Racing 15" conversion kit.

10-18-2016, 12:29 PM	#24
EvilZL1 Snake Eater Drives: 2012 AGM ZL1 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: TN Posts: 2,737	E85 is always a great edition if the support is there __________________ Build Thread: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...95#post8351295 Make sure you don’t forget to subscribe to my channel! More content on the way. Like, share with your friends https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9Z...sP2wjsLLFeP1zQ Follow me on instagram: http://www.instagram.com/snkeatr/

10-18-2016, 05:17 PM	#26
97ChameleonTA Drives: 2013 ZL1 Convertible Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Valrico, FL Posts: 516	E85 is definitely one of the most bang for the buck mods you can do. I'm running the Fore triple setup with Deatschwerks 1500 injectors. I'm now at 698 RWHP and 741 RWTQ. Mind you, my car has no internal engine mods. I'm still considered a bolt-on car. Here's a before and after with the only change being the flex fuel setup. __________________ 2013 ZL1 Auto Convertible - BRM Best: 10.829@127.15 FI Interchiller, Roto-Fab CAI, Big Gulp & Res, 9.1/2.5 Pulleys, PB&S, DeatschWerks 1500cc, Fore triple pump, Pfadt LT's, RD HX, MT DR's New times to come with E85 2016 2SS Auto - Hyper Blue Metallic Roto-Fab CAI

10-16-2016, 04:48 PM	#15
DrkPhx Drives: 2013 Triple Black ZL1 / 2006 TB SS Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: MN Posts: 2,250	^^^ $399.

10-17-2016, 07:56 AM	#19
mrvenicess Drives: 2013 CRT ZL1 auto Join Date: May 2010 Location: Venice Fl Posts: 1,443 View My Garage	Cost wise it ran me $3600 for the Fore triple pump set up installed, plus I upgraded my injectors from ID850s to ID1700s which cost me an additional $1650.