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Number 3 · 10-25-2016, 08:16 PM

All depends on the engine. It's either a more track focused ZL1 (light weight CC brakes and tires......) or a NA (Reuss preference as to why the original Z/28 became the ZL1) 500+ HP even lighter weight (avoiding SC mass) very specific car for track use only similar to the Gen5. Either is faster around the track.

Can't wait to see what happens.

*Mr. Wyndham* · 10-25-2016, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by chimazo

I get that, but the new ZL1 already makes that statement, which is why a "Track Pkg" option makes more sense (to me, at least!). Again, just like they have on the new GS and Z06's.

And so you have arrived at the defining, enthusiast mystery of the 6th generation Camaro....

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Originally Posted by Number 3

All depends on the engine. It's either a more track focused ZL1 (light weight CC brakes and tires......) or a NA (Reuss preference as to why the original Z/28 became the ZL1) 500+ HP even lighter weight (avoiding SC mass) very specific car for track use only similar to the Gen5. Either is faster around the track.

Can't wait to see what happens.

Me, either!!!

A "ZL1.R", or a Z/28 reboot...both will be atomic.

*DGthe3* · 10-25-2016, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by chimazo

They couldn't sell the less than 2000 they made in '2014-'15, so why would this one be any different? Again, where is the business case that has to be made for anything before being put into production? Do the bean-counters at GM think they need another $75k Camaro? To compete with what?

The truth is, track times don't sell sh!t, HP does. Witness the ENDLESS hype the Hellcat has had, and the roughly 25,000 units sold in just 2yrs. That is a *huge* success, and from a 9yr old design with an ancient chassis platform.

The Z/28 was a great way to sell 1LEs. GM essentially had 2 options for getting people to buy the 1LE. They could either dump a ton of cash on a marketing campaign to get the word out about the existence of a package that few knew about 20 years ago ... let alone today. Or, bring in the ultimate track Camaro. Let it steal the spotlight and draw people into the showroom. If they buy one, great. If they balk at the price, hey look over here ... its called a 1LE, for half the cost you can get yourself 90% of the thrill.

Welcome to the world of halo cars.

Bhobbs · 10-26-2016, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DGthe3

Is that 4 cars, 40, 400, or 4000? The people that give the OK for tooling purchases need to know. As do the companies that supply the parts.

Building to order works quite well when things can be fabbed up by hand. Doesn't work so well when it has to integrate into a mass production system.

Build 50% of the yearly production for the 5th gen and then only build what customers order after that 50%.

Number 3 · 10-30-2016, 10:35 AM

Interesting that ZL1s are getting shipped and there hasn't been a magazine review. Or at least I haven't seen one.

Becky posted pics of the black car at Rodgers Chevrolet and it looked delicious.

*mlee* · 10-30-2016, 10:46 AM

Alfa-Romeo is quite impressive. A 4 door V6 only 3 sec behind the ZL1...

http://www.caranddriver.com/alfa-romeo/giulia

2cnd chance · 10-30-2016, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 3

Interesting that ZL1s are getting shipped and there hasn't been a magazine review. Or at least I haven't seen one.

Becky posted pics of the black car at Rodgers Chevrolet and it looked delicious.

Yes, I think it looks great in black.

Bhobbs · 11-03-2016, 02:37 PM

GM released an LT376/535 crate engine. It's not emissions certified but I wonder if it would pass. It's just CNC heads and a hot cam.

Bhobbs · 11-08-2016, 05:31 PM

Fen says there will be two Chevy reveals at LA. Based on spy shots, this would be about the time the Z/28 should be revealed.

DF454 · 11-08-2016, 10:12 PM

I need to hit the lottery so I can afford a small house and large garage to park a Z/28. Sometime I wonder why I keep thinking about cars I can not affford.

*DGthe3* · 11-09-2016, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bhobbs

Fen says there will be two Chevy reveals at LA. Based on spy shots, this would be about the time the Z/28 should be revealed.

I'm about 60-40 split in favour of it being there, which is less confident than I was a few months ago.

Time will tell.

Bhobbs · 11-09-2016, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DGthe3

I'm about 60-40 split in favour of it being there, which is less confident than I was a few months ago.

Time will tell.

What do you think it could be?

Number 3 · 11-11-2016, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bhobbs

What do you think it could be?

Small Cadillac SUV and Buick Regal

Number 3 · 11-11-2016, 04:46 PM

Another wasted plate

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10-25-2016, 08:16 PM	#16955
Number 3 Hail to the King baby! Drives: '19 XT4 2.0T & '22 VW Atlas 2.0T Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 12,311	All depends on the engine. It's either a more track focused ZL1 (light weight CC brakes and tires......) or a NA (Reuss preference as to why the original Z/28 became the ZL1) 500+ HP even lighter weight (avoiding SC mass) very specific car for track use only similar to the Gen5. Either is faster around the track. Can't wait to see what happens. __________________ "Speed, it seems to me, provides the one genuinely modern pleasure." - Aldous Huxley

10-30-2016, 10:35 AM	#16959
Number 3 Hail to the King baby! Drives: '19 XT4 2.0T & '22 VW Atlas 2.0T Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 12,311	Interesting that ZL1s are getting shipped and there hasn't been a magazine review. Or at least I haven't seen one. Becky posted pics of the black car at Rodgers Chevrolet and it looked delicious. __________________ "Speed, it seems to me, provides the one genuinely modern pleasure." - Aldous Huxley

10-30-2016, 10:46 AM	#16960
mlee CamaroFans.com Drives: ZLE & ZR2 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Conroe, TX Posts: 38,055	Alfa-Romeo is quite impressive. A 4 door V6 only 3 sec behind the ZL1... http://www.caranddriver.com/alfa-romeo/giulia __________________

11-03-2016, 02:37 PM	#16962
Bhobbs Drives: 2015 SS 1LE Red Hot, 1970 Chevelle Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Chino, CA Posts: 6,994	GM released an LT376/535 crate engine. It's not emissions certified but I wonder if it would pass. It's just CNC heads and a hot cam. __________________

11-08-2016, 05:31 PM	#16963
Bhobbs Drives: 2015 SS 1LE Red Hot, 1970 Chevelle Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Chino, CA Posts: 6,994	Fen says there will be two Chevy reveals at LA. Based on spy shots, this would be about the time the Z/28 should be revealed. __________________

11-08-2016, 10:12 PM	#16964
DF454 Needs more Horsepower Drives: GMC Sonoma, Equinox LT AWD Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 66	I need to hit the lottery so I can afford a small house and large garage to park a Z/28. Sometime I wonder why I keep thinking about cars I can not affford. __________________ * Failed cc sanity check. Bailing out! *

11-11-2016, 04:46 PM	#16968
Number 3 Hail to the King baby! Drives: '19 XT4 2.0T & '22 VW Atlas 2.0T Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 12,311	Another wasted plate __________________ "Speed, it seems to me, provides the one genuinely modern pleasure." - Aldous Huxley

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