Programming new Key Fob

[RubberChicken]

I used to have two switchblade FOBs but they got lost. I have the manual key with no FOB that I'm using right now.

That said, I've ordered two new blank switchblade key FOBs and will have those cut. But I'm wondering if I can apply the "turn the car on with the regular key, turn it off, put the key with the FOB in the ignition, turn it on" and have it program the FOB?

[hrpiii]

Originally Posted by RubberChicken

I used to have two switchblade FOBs but they got lost. I have the manual key with no FOB that I'm using right now.

That said, I've ordered two new blank switchblade key FOBs and will have those cut. But I'm wondering if I can apply the "turn the car on with the regular key, turn it off, put the key with the FOB in the ignition, turn it on" and have it program the FOB?

I would think you would be able to as long as you have the key. But I don't know the interaction between the FOB once the car is started, and the car broadcasting/coding the new key. Great question.

[RubberChicken]

Originally Posted by hrpiii

I would think you would be able to as long as you have the key. But I don't know the interaction between the FOB once the car is started, and the car broadcasting/coding the new key. Great question.

Well, I'll try it and let you know. At the very least I'll have three keys for the car instead of the one I have now. I'll be having the keys cut this weekend.

[CamaroFred]

Originally Posted by Mr_Draco

Everything I've read says that the Camaro does not have the ability for the owner to program a Fob that does not have a key attached and that you must go to a dealer or a lock smith that specializes in vehicles. Apparently in order to program a keyless Fob, you need some kind of special diagnostic tool that plugs into the OBD port.

Originally Posted by hrpiii

could be true on the newer vehicles, but not on any 2010-2012 vehicles. I have seen it done. The keyless fobs on the Camaros are the same FOB's as the keyed ones. Nothing different or special about them. They just have a pin holding the key part in.

Since you have seen it done, please tell me how?
How do you turn the car on with a keyless FOB to complete the sequence?

[ffas23]

Originally Posted by hrpiii

You are correct.

You only need one key to program the other 2 FOB's. Just repeat the programming process twice. The car will tell you how many keys have been coded. I'm on like 5 due to the wife "losing" them constantly. Yep, she is forbidden to hold any keys now.

If you go to a big chevy dealership, they will cut them for you. I have not had to pay them to cut them. But would have to pay them to program it to the car, which takes about 25 seconds.

One other question on my 2011 and thankyou for giving me a clear answer. So I have now 4 remotes. 2 factory programmed and 2 aftermarket non programmed. You are telling me I only need to use one of the factory programmed remotes to program both of the aftermarket ones I have that have uncut keys as of yet. So I take a Factory Keyed Remote. Put it in the ignition and go clock wise to say the 3 o'clock position and then back to the 12 o'clock position. Is the signal going to both un-programmed remotes sitting in the passenger seat? Remember they both have blank keys in them so I can't put either in the ignition next and turn it. I just need to know if I should leave one of the new unprogrammed ones out of the car and then come back with the other and repeat the process. Some of you guys and gals are going to laugh. As mentioned earlier this is my wifes 2011 Camaro I purchased for her as a Christmas Present in December of 2010. Her 2011 Camaro only has 375 miles on it maybe 380. Forgot exactly. It sits in my Pole Barn with my Collector Cars. Long Story. lol.

[hrpiii]

Originally Posted by CamaroFred

Since you have seen it done, please tell me how?
How do you turn the car on with a keyless FOB to complete the sequence?

Sorry, I was making the assumption you had a separate key with the "keyless" FOB. Like you had the "key recall" notice completed where the key was no longer part of the FOB. I was not thinking you had NO key at all to the keyless FOB. A FOB with no key at all, does nothing but unlock a door or trunk. But I supposed someone could have a spare FOB without a key in case they lock their keys in the car a lot.

[hrpiii]

Originally Posted by ffas23

One other question on my 2011 and thankyou for giving me a clear answer. So I have now 4 remotes. 2 factory programmed and 2 aftermarket non programmed. You are telling me I only need to use one of the factory programmed remotes to program both of the aftermarket ones I have that have uncut keys as of yet. So I take a Factory Keyed Remote. Put it in the ignition and go clock wise to say the 3 o'clock position and then back to the 12 o'clock position. Is the signal going to both un-programmed remotes sitting in the passenger seat? Remember they both have blank keys in them so I can't put either in the ignition next and turn it. I just need to know if I should leave one of the new unprogrammed ones out of the car and then come back with the other and repeat the process. Some of you guys and gals are going to laugh. As mentioned earlier this is my wifes 2011 Camaro I purchased for her as a Christmas Present in December of 2010. Her 2011 Camaro only has 375 miles on it maybe 380. Forgot exactly. It sits in my Pole Barn with my Collector Cars. Long Story. lol.

No, you will have to code each key separately. Put master key in, turn to Access. for a couple seconds, then turn key to off Position. Put NEW cut key into and turn to same Access position and leave, the car will tell you when it is completed, takes only a few seconds. I have unfortunately coded 4 spare keys from one Master Key. (because the wife keeps losing the spares).

The car says it has coded xxxx number of keys (or something like that in the DIC).

No problem at all. I have purchase my keys from eBay, and had the dealer cut them for me. Then I have coded them all myself. I even showed the wife how to code them, since she is the one losing them. LOL

[ffas23]

Originally Posted by hrpiii

No, you will have to code each key separately. Put master key in, turn to Access. for a couple seconds, then turn key to off Position. Put NEW cut key into and turn to same Access position and leave, the car will tell you when it is completed, takes only a few seconds. I have unfortunately coded 4 spare keys from one Master Key. (because the wife keeps losing the spares).

The car says it has coded xxxx number of keys (or something like that in the DIC).

No problem at all. I have purchase my keys from eBay, and had the dealer cut them for me. Then I have coded them all myself. I even showed the wife how to code them, since she is the one losing them. LOL

Ok what I am understanding now is that I can't program my 2 aftermarket remotes being as I stated they both have uncut keys inside of them at the moment. What I wanted to do was be able to program these 2 remotes before taking them somewhere for the uncut keys to be cut so I know neither of these aftermarket remotes are duds which they very well may be so to say. I am guessing what I will need to do is have both uncut keys cut or take the keyblade out of the 2nd Factory remote i have and insert it into both aftermarket remotes one at a time to program them. Am I correct in my thinking? This would be the cheaper way out in order to see if both aftermarket remotes work and can be programmed.

[hrpiii]

Originally Posted by ffas23

Ok what I am understanding now is that I can't program my 2 aftermarket remotes being as I stated they both have uncut keys inside of them at the moment. What I wanted to do was be able to program these 2 remotes before taking them somewhere for the uncut keys to be cut so I know neither of these aftermarket remotes are duds which they very well may be so to say. I am guessing what I will need to do is have both uncut keys cut or take the keyblade out of the 2nd Factory remote i have and insert it into both aftermarket remotes one at a time to program them. Am I correct in my thinking? This would be the cheaper way out in order to see if both aftermarket remotes work and can be programmed.

no, you need to have those keys cut. If you live near a 'large' chevy dealership, they will probably cut them for free. But you do need them cut in order to program them. I have never tried it without getting it cut first.

You can always 'try' to code them with them "in the car", just not in the ignition. I have no idea what will happen if you start the process, and then put the master key back in the ignition and turn to access. when the other FOB's in your hand, like holding them close to the other FOB (more of a distance thing maybe). It's not like it will "unprogram" anything. But we don't know unless we try.

[CamaroFred]

Originally Posted by hrpiii

Sorry, I was making the assumption you had a separate key with the "keyless" FOB. Like you had the "key recall" notice completed where the key was no longer part of the FOB. I was not thinking you had NO key at all to the keyless FOB. A FOB with no key at all, does nothing but unlock a door or trunk. But I supposed someone could have a spare FOB without a key in case they lock their keys in the car a lot.

An unprogrammed FOB will not unlock a car or open the trunk.
Otherwise Walmart parking lot would be filled with unlocked cars and open trunks.

Only with a FOB that the car has been programmed to will the car respond.

Sometimes, all we want to do is open a door, throw something into the backseat or trunk, lock it up, and walk away.

I don't want to beat a dead horse, and I don't want to pick on you, but there are no answers in this thread as to how to program a FOB without a key. Although there are suggestions that it can be done.

[ffas23]

Originally Posted by CamaroFred

An unprogrammed FOB will not unlock a car or open the trunk.
Otherwise Walmart parking lot would be filled with unlocked cars and open trunks.

Only with a FOB that the car has been programmed to will the car respond.

Sometimes, all we want to do is open a door, throw something into the backseat or trunk, lock it up, and walk away.

I don't want to beat a dead horse, and I don't want to pick on you, but there are no answers in this thread as to how to program a FOB without a key. Although there are suggestions that it can be done.

I never explained who I am and what I did for a living. I was in the automotive parts business for 38 years as a owner. I have delt with many things over the years. I am retired now. Based on what I know being I have programmed many remotes for GM, Ford and Chrysler is there is no chip in a key blade blank. Its either in the Plastic part of the Key such as the fat ones they used on say a 2000 Mercury Marquis or they are in the remote. I am going to go out in a bit and bring one of the aftermarket remotes with me with blank key in it and try to program it with one of the factory remotes and see what happens. The only thing I can think of is a cut key turning the ignition over and then picking up the signal. If it doesn't work that way I will take the key out of the 2nd Factory remote and install it in a aftermarket remote and do it with the 2nd remote being the aftermarket being able to be in position to turn the ignition on with a factory keyblade installed in it. Will report back later.

[DvKillar]

I had a 91 Chevy 3\4 ton with a chip on it's key.. like this one:

[ffas23]

Originally Posted by ffas23

I never explained who I am and what I did for a living. I was in the automotive parts business for 38 years as a owner. I have delt with many things over the years. I am retired now. Based on what I know being I have programmed many remotes for GM, Ford and Chrysler is there is no chip in a key blade blank. Its either in the Plastic part of the Key such as the fat ones they used on say a 2000 Mercury Marquis or they are in the remote. I am going to go out in a bit and bring one of the aftermarket remotes with me with blank key in it and try to program it with one of the factory remotes and see what happens. The only thing I can think of is a cut key turning the ignition over and then picking up the signal. If it doesn't work that way I will take the key out of the 2nd Factory remote and install it in a aftermarket remote and do it with the 2nd remote being the aftermarket being able to be in position to turn the ignition on with a factory keyblade installed in it. Will report back later.

Answering my own question but this forum still was a big help. What I thought to be true was true. You can program a aftermarket remote (keyfob) by taking out the key blade from a factory remote (keyfob) and inserted the blade into the aftermarket remote and then taking your other factory remote putting it in the ignition turning it clockwise until the dash light come up for about 5 seconds or more taking it out and now inserting the aftermarket remote with factory cut blade inserted in turning and the remote will show up in the DIC. It showed up as number 3. To do the 4th remote I will need to do the same with that one. All solved. At the moment I now have 4 working remotes. 2 aftermarkets that can at least get me in the car.

Now I have another question being I have the keyblanks out of both aftermarket remotes and factory remote I am guessing to bring the keyblanks and factory cut key with me to get the 2 cut from a copy of the original. Am I correct. I am guessing they cut these blanks out of the remote. Someone correct me if I am wrong. I see no need for the remote.

[ffas23]

Originally Posted by DvKillar

I had a 91 Chevy 3\4 ton with a chip on it's key.. like this one:

Your key is the exact key type in my '99 Corvette Coupe. Yep you could see the chip in that key where it is located.