Trading the 2SS for a Focus?

[rontammy0]

Originally Posted by Emig5m

Yea I would agree, the Focus is crap. I immediately noticed the jerky tranny right away as did the girl I rented it with and she's by no means a car person or techy and the brakes where overly touchy. Everything about the Civic SI alleviates the complaints I had with the Focus from a perfectly smooth performing tranny (but the SI only come in manual), to more room and comfort, not to mention much better looks. I feel like I bought the best car in its class for what I was looking for - economy, usable rear seats, with a little sportiness too it and I feel like all the tech and sound system was an added bonus making letting go the SS much less painful to where I traded on the spot without double thinking it. I was also looking into a KIA Optima and the Hyundai Elantra Sport (But it's like 10 less MPG than the Civic so....) but didn't get as far as a test drive in those after test driving the Honda I knew it was 'the one' right away.... I've actually got a lot of good compliments on the looks of the Honda Civic SI from friends and neighbors. I didn't want to get a totally boring looking stripped down economy car so the SI gave me exactly what I was looking for and then some... So far I'm totally happy with it other than the overly aggressive bolsters.... I wish it could of been configured with slightly less aggressive leather seats.

The Civic is your best bet when looking at your list. The Kia is getting better but still imo still not in the same league as a Honda. Same can be said about the Hyundai. Their quality is getting better but Honda has had excellent quality for decades.

[rontammy0]

Originally Posted by crosbycool

you are what you drive

That really doesnt apply anymore since I drive this on warm sunny weekends.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/attach...1&d=1500870619

[redcoats1976]

sweet,you should move down here and daily driver it...

[Rodney2011]

Originally Posted by Emig5m

Yea I would agree, the Focus is crap. I immediately noticed the jerky tranny right away as did the girl I rented it with and she's by no means a car person or techy and the brakes where overly touchy. Everything about the Civic SI alleviates the complaints I had with the Focus from a perfectly smooth performing tranny (but the SI only come in manual), to more room and comfort, not to mention much better looks. I feel like I bought the best car in its class for what I was looking for - economy, usable rear seats, with a little sportiness too it and I feel like all the tech and sound system was an added bonus making letting go the SS much less painful to where I traded on the spot without double thinking it. I was also looking into a KIA Optima and the Hyundai Elantra Sport (But it's like 10 less MPG than the Civic so....) but didn't get as far as a test drive in those after test driving the Honda I knew it was 'the one' right away.... I've actually got a lot of good compliments on the looks of the Honda Civic SI from friends and neighbors. I didn't want to get a totally boring looking stripped down economy car so the SI gave me exactly what I was looking for and then some... So far I'm totally happy with it other than the overly aggressive bolsters.... I wish it could of been configured with slightly less aggressive leather seats.

Your friends and neighbors are just being kind.
They feel sorry for you.

[Rodney2011]

Originally Posted by rontammy0

That really doesnt apply anymore since I drive this on warm sunny weekends.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/attach...1&d=1500870619

I had something similar, but more chicks.
Gave up on it when I ran it into a sandbar, flipped out the front, landed on my feet with a beer in one hand, a cigarette in the other, and a shit eating grin.
Then the police caught up.

[Turbo_J89]

Filling a Focus with gas may be cheap but the last time I checked the focus depreciates rapidly. So you'll be paying a hidden cost vs upfront at the gas pump.

[lbls1]

What's wrong with owning both. I don't daily drive my Camaro for obvious reasons such as gas mileage and potential damage. Its a given that many Camaro owners will have daily drivers to get around in. If funding is an issue then wait and save up for a new or used Fusion.

Good luck.

[Emig5m]

Originally Posted by lbls1

What's wrong with owning both.

Because if I didn't daily drive the Camaro it simply would get zero usage. I already have another secondary vehicle. Owning three vehicles wouldn't make sense to me.

[Emig5m]

Originally Posted by Turbo_J89

Filling a Focus with gas may be cheap but the last time I checked the focus depreciates rapidly. So you'll be paying a hidden cost vs upfront at the gas pump.

Heh, I notice many people only reading the topic and commenting without reading the entire thread. I already got a Civic SI. I scratched the Focus off the list as soon as I started researching cars of this size.


And with regards to buying a used beater, I'm kind of a snob with taking care of my stuff and keeping it clean and wouldn't be happy with someone else's dirty not not well kept vehicle - it even put sheets on my seats when I go to work to keep the seats clean and the sheets are easy to throw in the laundry once a week. I doubt anyone will use a vehicle as much as I do while keeping it as minty over the years. My 2004 Ford Lightning's interior still looks like it came off the lot. Not to mention that I don't trust other people the mechanically maintain a vehicle to my standards. So a used beater it 100% out of the question.

Anyway, I'm very happy with the Civic so far except the overly aggressive side bolsters in the SI model that I bought. Love the styling, tech, fuel economy, and also that I can adjust the seat for plenty of leg room and still fit on the back seat without readjusting the seat unlike the Camaro. I'm going to see if I can swap the front seats with a standard Civic. It's a shame because I absolutely love everything else about the car.

[lbls1]

Originally Posted by Emig5m

Because if I didn't daily drive the Camaro it simply would get zero usage. I already have another secondary vehicle. Owning three vehicles wouldn't make sense to me.

Gotcha. If the Camaro isn't your must have car, then its ok to trade it. My sig cars get almost zero usage, but because they are my must haves, I won't consider a trade or sell. I can enjoy each one at any time, and all of them (including the Malibu for now, since I bought it a few months ago) have relatively low miles (the truck has ridiculously low miles). Its just an added bonus; But yes, multiple cars can have its disadvantages too.

[redcoats1976]

you can probably find someone with a standard civic that would be real happy to swap seats with you.my son is still driving a 1993 civic del sol with 300,000 miles on it.other than belts,water pumps and a trans rebuild its been pretty much trouble free,engine has never been apart.

[Emig5m]

Originally Posted by redcoats1976

you can probably find someone with a standard civic that would be real happy to swap seats with you.

I just called the dealer and spoke to a manager and he's looking into getting me a leather interior installed with different side bolsters. He said he'll look into it and give me a call back. But he said that the factory wouldn't allow a seat swap with another brand new car on the lot. Leather would be cool since I like leather. If I where to swap with another owner it would have to be someone who's buying a brand new car and I would have to have the seats brand new, heh. I should call the parts and see what brand new factory seats cost.

[crosbycool]

Originally Posted by Emig5m

What if you drive multiple vehicles? How would I combine a SVT Ford Lightning that has even more ft/lbs torque stock than a stock SS combined with a Honda Civic? Hehe. And does my supercharged Seadoo watercraft and fuel injected Husqvarna 500cc dual sport road legal dirtbike get factored in as well? So what does that make me? lol.

I agree. I think all Americans should own as many Japanese cars as possible.

[crosbycool]

Originally Posted by Dmpsix

Not true.

I think the statement, "you are what you drive" is very true. Many years ago I owned a rusty Pinto and it meant one thing. I didn't have enough money for a better car...