FI V6 version in the Camaro's Future?

[Mosher]

So we have talked alot about the possibility of the LSA making it into a Z/28, or ZL-1.

What about us poor folk?

The question is, will GM take hold of the current LLT and make a FI version either Supercharged or Turbocharged? What in everyone's opinion, would be the result? Would it take the place of the base engine?(man that would be crazy!) or would it be a special performance option?

[mike25]

based on what ive seen of the engines mainly steel construction...i believe as said before there are serious numbers to be seen out of this motor. the direct injection and tuning are the hold back right now, but i think lingenfelter might have it figured out. im holding out for a roots style blower setup. i believe 450hp should be easily attainable.

[The_Blur]

Originally Posted by mike25

based on what ive seen of the engines mainly steel construction...i believe as said before there are serious numbers to be seen out of this motor. the direct injection and tuning are the hold back right now, but i think lingenfelter might have it figured out. im holding out for a roots style blower setup. i believe 450hp should be easily attainable.

I wouldn't describe these new technologies as holding back the LLT. They're new, so these companies are just learning the physics of harnessing the new technology. With this new technology, more gains are possible, and I'm sure that GM is eager to take advantage of those gains. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised to find out that GM is secretly working on competition for the EcoBoost platform.

[mike25]

Originally Posted by The_Blur

I wouldn't describe these new technologies as holding back the LLT. They're new, so these companies are just learning the physics of harnessing the new technology. With this new technology, more gains are possible, and I'm sure that GM is eager to take advantage of those gains. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised to find out that GM is secretly working on competition for the EcoBoost platform.

when i say holdback...what i meant was basically what you said...its somewhat new to the aftermarket scence which will cause it to take a bit more time to work out and be able to fully utilize its capabilities.

[Mosher]

Originally Posted by The_Blur

I wouldn't describe these new technologies as holding back the LLT. They're new, so these companies are just learning the physics of harnessing the new technology. With this new technology, more gains are possible, and I'm sure that GM is eager to take advantage of those gains. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised to find out that GM is secretly working on competition for the EcoBoost platform.

See I was wondering on this too, GM would have a real winner if they drop this into a mid priced Camaro. The Taurus SHO is just way expensive, and you would really be making a mark against the Mustang trying to one up your V6 in 2011. The Question is, for a 350 - 370HP TT setup be cost effective enough to offer it in a Camaro at a reasonable price?

Good stuff...

Perhaps to curve the costs, they could use either a Supercharger or if they are satisfied with the low end grunt, a single turbo setup.

[mike25]

Originally Posted by Mosher

See I was wondering on this too, GM would have a real winner if they drop this into a mid priced Camaro. The Taurus SHO is just way expensive, and you would really be making a mark against the Mustang trying to one up your V6 in 2011. The Question is, for a 350 - 370HP TT setup be cost effective enough to offer it in a Camaro at a reasonable price?

Good stuff...

Perhaps to curve the costs, they could use either a Supercharger or if they are satisfied with the low end grunt, a single turbo setup.

we wont see a tt motor v6 at a reasonable price...but knowing gm's history with superchargers, i wouldnt be suprised if we see a cost effective v6 rs/sc hti the streets.

[scrming]

Originally Posted by mike25

we wont see a tt motor v6 at a reasonable price...but knowing gm's history with superchargers, i wouldnt be suprised if we see a cost effective v6 rs/sc hti the streets.

Actually I thought GM seemed to be moving away from SC to single turbo...

[mike25]

Originally Posted by scrming

Actually I thought GM seemed to be moving away from SC to single turbo...

i guess its a possibility..its certainly more cost effective...but i just think that a quick answer the the market competition would be to throw a supercharger on it. either way i think it would be interesting to see.

[Jerseyboy]

Originally Posted by The_Blur

I wouldn't describe these new technologies as holding back the LLT. They're new, so these companies are just learning the physics of harnessing the new technology. With this new technology, more gains are possible, and I'm sure that GM is eager to take advantage of those gains. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised to find out that GM is secretly working on competition for the EcoBoost platform.

DI is not really new technology. It was used in 1942 on the Daimler Benz DB605 engine used in the ME109 German Fighter planes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daimler-Benz_DB_605 The biggest issue is going to be getting new fuel system components (i.e injectors and high pressure pumps) that will support the power levels that people want to achieve.

J

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by The_Blur

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised to find out that GM is secretly working on competition for the EcoBoost platform.

Heh...I bet they're working on more than just that....

[Mosher]

Single Turbo or a Blower makes the most sense. I suspect the power output desired would be in the 350HP range. Which with that and the added TQ, would make the V6 Camaro a mid - low 5 sec 0-60, solid 13 sec 1/4 mile car. Displacement will likely not change, along with other refinements, so long as you are not romping it Gas Mileage would be good, the only trade off would likely be having to use premium. I could live with that lol