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Darin Morgan · 10-02-2009, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThunderSS

Shove that driver side header up their A$$

..
2.5 freaking hours of trying to get that damn ARH Header in there.
Firewall, steering shaft, oil cooler, and motor mount where all in the way, and tube locking the header from sliding up into it's position..
finally loosened the motor mount, and had to completely remove it to get the header to slide up in there.. Had it just slid up in there, it would have gone a lot more quickly than 7.5 hours( Complete system install) it took me to get it in.. probably could have installed it in 3-5 hours... Once it was in, it went together pretty good..
But just to give you other guys a heads up.
If you run into a similar problem.. it's quicker to just go ahead and remove the motor mount, than it is to try and force the header up in there..

Ok, I am getting off my soap box for now...

I ordered the American racing headers, cats and Xpipe kit. They must have changed the design becuase from floor to floor it took me exactly two hours and 40 minutes just taking my own sweet time.. I did have the take the steering shaft loose but that was no big deal. Mine cleared the oil cooler heat sink with no effort at all. Sorry to hear you had problems but they must have perfected the design. Mine was pretty darn effortless.

P.S. With this system and the Loud Mouth IIs this thing turn heads when you just fire it up. Before the tune it sounded flat due to the engine being real rich from the factory. After I uploaded the tune from Mike at New Era it changed the whole note. Very crisp. It sounds like its pissed at the world when you lay into it now!

ThunderSS · 10-02-2009, 09:32 AM

Hmmm. I dont know.. I did all that... had the car atleast 2 foot up in the air..
maybe fluke thing I dont know..
removing the motor mount was not hard.. it slid right in once that was out of the way.. I kept getting hung up on a head bolt, and the oil pump.. not enough forward space until I removed the motor mount.. It's hard to explain.. I should have taken a pic, but was not in the mode to stop, go get the camera, and snap a pic..

Robin Lawrence · 10-02-2009, 09:35 AM

WOW,

Well just be gentle then......

I installed the Kooks and didn't even pull the spark plugs.

Must be a big difference in the routing of the primary tubes.

Robin

duffmobile · 10-02-2009, 09:48 AM

Can we get some video of the car when you recover?

I'd love to hear how it sounds revving and under load.

ThunderSS · 10-02-2009, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duffmobile

Can we get some video of the car when you recover?

I'd love to hear how it sounds revving and under load.

I will try and get one uploaded later this afternoon, after I get off of work..

rodimus prime · 10-02-2009, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robin Lawrence

WOW,

Well just be gentle then......

I installed the Kooks and didn't even pull the spark plugs.

Must be a big difference in the routing of the primary tubes.

Robin

Same with the dynatechs.

camaro1 · 10-02-2009, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robin Lawrence

WOW,

Well just be gentle then......

I installed the Kooks and didn't even pull the spark plugs.

Must be a big difference in the routing of the primary tubes.

Robin

same here, i did my kooks on my lunch break, only took 1 hour 20 min, simplest set of long tubes i have ever installed, i could not believe how much room there was.

ThunderSS · 10-02-2009, 10:31 AM

I am glad everyone else had no problems.. but this set did.. I am not knocking ARH at all. They are very well made..
Thick flanges, high quality steel.. top notch welds, and overall great product..
I am very happy with my purchase.. just seems something went wrong.. dont know if it was me, or just this set, but this wasnt my first rodeo..
hell when I installed a set on my 99 Z28, i didnt have that much problem.. lift the car high enough, and they slid right in..

oh well, I will know next time

I will be doing a buddy of mine here soon.. he wants to the same setup.

bdg · 10-02-2009, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camaro1

same here, i did my kooks on my lunch break, only took 1 hour 20 min, simplest set of long tubes i have ever installed, i could not believe how much room there was.

Dang, you get a long lunch break. JK

TeddyP25 · 10-02-2009, 10:51 AM

NO mechanic by any means here, did my install of the ARH catted longtubes in 3 hours, only thing i needed to do was detach the steering mechanism. I used a lift also which helped tons, other than that and the passenger side being tight spaced, it was a breeze.

jpsuperman81 · 10-02-2009, 11:26 AM

Sounds like me and you had a similiar problem except mine was with borla axle back. Everyone swears up and down its an piece of cake install maybe 30 minutes to get borlas to attach to factory piping but I went to a 30+ year muffler guy and we had it on a lift and there was no way the borlas i got were atttaching to the facctory pipes, the bends were almost opposites. It was the weirdest thing but stuff like this does happen. Nobody else has had much problems with the headers and nobody else has had same problem with the axle backs. But me and you clearly had two rather isolated problems.

toehead93 · 10-02-2009, 11:30 AM

[QUOTE=jpsuperman81;996181] the bends were almost opposites. QUOTE]

You sure you didn't actually have them swapped on the wrong side

99-LS1-SS · 10-02-2009, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThunderSS

I am glad everyone else had no problems.. but this set did.. I am not knocking ARH at all. They are very well made..
Thick flanges, high quality steel.. top notch welds, and overall great product..
I am very happy with my purchase.. just seems something went wrong.. dont know if it was me, or just this set, but this wasnt my first rodeo..
hell when I installed a set on my 99 Z28, i didnt have that much problem.. lift the car high enough, and they slid right in..

oh well, I will know next time

I will be doing a buddy of mine here soon.. he wants to the same setup.

I know the G8 and the Camaro share the Zeta platform but I don't know how similar the engine/steering shaft are. I had to unhook my steering shaft and my headers went right in with no effort. If you think the gen 5 sucks try doing it on a gen 4 F-body. I'll swap them on my G8 all day long before I consider the gen 4 again.

fcu678 · 10-02-2009, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robin Lawrence

WOW,

Well just be gentle then......

I installed the Kooks and didn't even pull the spark plugs.

Must be a big difference in the routing of the primary tubes.

Robin

I'm really leaning towards Kooks did you install a complete system? How do you like it?

10-02-2009, 09:32 AM	#16
ThunderSS Drives: 2010 CGM 2SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: East of Houston Posts: 804 View My Garage	Hmmm. I dont know.. I did all that... had the car atleast 2 foot up in the air.. maybe fluke thing I dont know.. removing the motor mount was not hard.. it slid right in once that was out of the way.. I kept getting hung up on a head bolt, and the oil pump.. not enough forward space until I removed the motor mount.. It's hard to explain.. I should have taken a pic, but was not in the mode to stop, go get the camera, and snap a pic.. __________________ 2010 Camaro SS/RS HKE Forged 416 CID http://www.fquick.com/ThunderZ28 510 HP/485 Ft. Lbs

10-02-2009, 09:35 AM	#17
Robin Lawrence Drives: 2010 Camaro 69 Nova Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Galesburg, Illinois Posts: 444	WOW, Well just be gentle then...... I installed the Kooks and didn't even pull the spark plugs. Must be a big difference in the routing of the primary tubes. Robin __________________ Holley Performance Products

10-02-2009, 09:48 AM	#18
duffmobile Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS - IOM/IOM Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Frankfort, IL Posts: 374	Can we get some video of the car when you recover? I'd love to hear how it sounds revving and under load. __________________ L99 with 2.8 LC Kenne Bell, Kooks 1 7/8 headers, Corsa Catback, R2C CAI, 491 RWHP / 500 RWTQ ---- 2010 MY #7539

10-02-2009, 10:31 AM	#22
ThunderSS Drives: 2010 CGM 2SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: East of Houston Posts: 804 View My Garage	I am glad everyone else had no problems.. but this set did.. I am not knocking ARH at all. They are very well made.. Thick flanges, high quality steel.. top notch welds, and overall great product.. I am very happy with my purchase.. just seems something went wrong.. dont know if it was me, or just this set, but this wasnt my first rodeo.. hell when I installed a set on my 99 Z28, i didnt have that much problem.. lift the car high enough, and they slid right in.. oh well, I will know next time I will be doing a buddy of mine here soon.. he wants to the same setup. __________________ 2010 Camaro SS/RS HKE Forged 416 CID http://www.fquick.com/ThunderZ28 510 HP/485 Ft. Lbs

10-02-2009, 10:51 AM	#24
TeddyP25 Drives: 2SS Join Date: May 2009 Location: Fort Collins Posts: 611	NO mechanic by any means here, did my install of the ARH catted longtubes in 3 hours, only thing i needed to do was detach the steering mechanism. I used a lift also which helped tons, other than that and the passenger side being tight spaced, it was a breeze. __________________ 2SS/RS CGM/BLK GFX MN6418 Stroker.785rwhp/885lbtq.50 SHOT NO2..Pfadt arms,toe links,coilovers,swaybars,end links,engine mounts,dif/sub bushings.MGWshifter.Tick LVL 3.ARH1 7/8 LT's/ARH exhaust.ADM gauges/race CAI.E-FORCE SC.8 rib IW 10%OD.LPE dual pump/module.85lb inj,custom valve covers.RMCR tune.TOOLEY RACING CAM.JRE posi kit.JRE fuel upgrade.RX MONSTER CatchCan.DSS axels/DS.Hammerhead rear, 3:73's. WYOSPEED builthttp://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=115687

10-02-2009, 11:26 AM	#25
jpsuperman81 Yep I'm back! Drives: 2017 Krypton Green 1SS 1LE Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Indian Trail, NC Posts: 2,565 View My Garage	Sounds like me and you had a similiar problem except mine was with borla axle back. Everyone swears up and down its an piece of cake install maybe 30 minutes to get borlas to attach to factory piping but I went to a 30+ year muffler guy and we had it on a lift and there was no way the borlas i got were atttaching to the facctory pipes, the bends were almost opposites. It was the weirdest thing but stuff like this does happen. Nobody else has had much problems with the headers and nobody else has had same problem with the axle backs. But me and you clearly had two rather isolated problems.

10-02-2009, 11:30 AM	#26
toehead93 Drives: 2014 2SS/1LE Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: wpb fl Posts: 3,135 View My Garage	[QUOTE=jpsuperman81;996181] the bends were almost opposites. QUOTE] You sure you didn't actually have them swapped on the wrong side __________________ Used Racing Brake 2 Peice Rotors for sale: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=344754 Summit White 2014 2SS 1LE Recaros, NPP exhaust, Nav 2010 2SS A6 - sold.

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