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So It'll Go Down Easy
Drives: Camaro SS/RS Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Long Beach, CA
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Then you ask "If it's normal, then why is there a TSB out describing a fix for it?" - And that's when they stare blankly and shrug their shoulders.
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Drives: 2SS/RS, A6, just a few bolt ons Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Houston, TX
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its the AFM lifters
only solution is a DOD/AFM delete kit to replace the AFM lifters with LS7 ones. and if your willing to do that just to get rid of the ticking, you might as well install a cam and port your heads while there off!
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Not just any car!
Drives: Orange Krate DOB - 11/22/2010 Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Simi Valley, CA
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Just check to make sure your headers didn't spit a gasket. More than one time in my old racing days header bolts backed out and caused the header to "pop" just like your are describing. It was particularly noticeable when the engine was cold. As the head warmed up and the header warmed up they closed the gap. But more likely than not it is the lifter(s).
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Emerald Coast Camaros
Drives: 2010 2SS Rally Yellow Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: TALLAHASSEE,FL
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I've had mine for 17 months and mine does it most of the time and they tell me it's normal. I really don't like it myself.
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Emerald Coast Camaros
Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Camaro IOM/IO Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Lynn Haven, Florida
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Not only does mine do it....has from the start, but my 4th gen did it too. It is the lifters ticking, and it's normal.
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Location: NY
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i just changed my oil after 1k with mobile 1 v6 and i got it after start up but only when its cold otherwise its only when i first start up the car but its always cold in ny now.
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My L99 ticks-- I timed it-- 20 seconds noisy-- 30 seconds better-- 1-2 min quiet... I called service manager, and made appointment to see him... He said there was a TSB and he would look for a updated one... He said e.g. people who use remote start often would never hear it lol He said he would do whatever it took to make me happy! He claims the car will not 'hurt" itself... I have a 01 6.0L that ticks and clatters and runs like champ.. and a 07 5.3 that runs quiet
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Drives: 2SS/RS Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Arizona
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Well that souns like what my problem is. I think that I will take it in and have the dealer take a look at it. I would rather not have a problem. Like I said I am new to Camaros but you want to know anything about Jeeps, I'm your man!
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Hope this helps.
#10-06-01-007A: AFM Engine, Valve Tick Noise at Start Up When Engine has been Off for 2 Hours or M - (Oct 14, 2010) Subject:Active Fuel Management (AFM) Engine, Valve Lifter Tick Noise at Start Up When Engine Has Been Off for 2 Hours or More (Evaluate Noise and/or Replace Valve Lifters) Models:2007 Buick Rainier 2009 Buick LaCrosse Super, Allure Super (Canada Only) 2007 Cadillac Escalade Built Prior to April 1, 2006 with 6.2L Engine RPO L92 (These engines were built with AFM Hardware but the AFM system was disabled) 2010 Cadillac Escalade 2007 Chevrolet Monte Carlo 2007-2009 Chevrolet Impala 2007-2010 Chevrolet Avalanche, Silverado, Suburban, Tahoe, TrailBlazer 2010 Chevrolet Camaro SS 2007-2010 GMC Envoy, Sierra, Yukon 2007-2008 Pontiac Grand Prix 2008-2009 Pontiac G8 2007-2009 Saab 9-7X Equipped with AFM (Active Fuel Management) and V8 Engine RPO L76, L94, L99, LC9, LFA, LH6, LMG, LS4, LY5 or LZ1 Attention: This bulletin only applies to the AFM V8 engines listed above. It DOES NOT apply to Non-AFM Engines. If you are dealing with a Non-AFM engine that is experiencing a similar noise, please refer to Engine Mechanical > Diagnostic Information and Procedures > Symptoms in SI. This bulletin is being revised to add the engine RPO LZ1 and the 2010 Cadillac Escalade. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 10-06-01-007 (Section 06 - Engine/Propulsion System). <A href="http://gsi.xw.gm.com/si/showDoc.do?docSyskey=2538837&from=bcpi#ss1-2538837">Condition Some customers may comment on an engine valve lifter tick noise that occurs after the engine has been shut off for at least two hours. The tick noise may last from two seconds to ten minutes. <A href="http://gsi.xw.gm.com/si/showDoc.do?docSyskey=2538837&from=bcpi#ss2-2538837">Cause This condition may be caused by any of the following: • Aerated oil in the valve lifter body, resulting in the valve lifter being unable to purge the air quickly. • A low engine oil level or incorrect oil viscosity. • Dirty or contaminated oil. • A low internal valve lifter oil reservoir level. • Debris in the valve lifter. • A high valve lifter leak down rate. <A href="http://gsi.xw.gm.com/si/showDoc.do?docSyskey=2538837&from=bcpi#ss3-2538837">Correction If the SI diagnostics do not isolate the cause of this valve lifter tick noise and normal oil pressure is noted during the concern, perform the following steps:
<A href="http://gsi.xw.gm.com/si/showDoc.do?docSyskey=2538837&from=bcpi#ss4-2538837">Parts Information
Note: A V8 AFM engine requires 8 AFM lifters and 8 non-AFM lifters for a total of 16 lifters. Part Number Description Qty 12576400 Non AFM Hydraulic Valve Lifter 8 12632143 AFM Hydraulic Valve Lifter 8 <A href="http://gsi.xw.gm.com/si/showDoc.do?docSyskey=2538837&from=bcpi#ss5-2538837">Warranty Information (excluding Saab Models) For vehicles repaired under warranty, use: Labor Operation Description Labor Time J0627 Valve Lifter Replacement - Both Sides Use Published Labor Operation Time <A href="http://gsi.xw.gm.com/si/showDoc.do?docSyskey=2538837&from=bcpi#ss6-2538837">Warranty Information (Saab Models) For vehicles repaired under warranty, use: Saab Labor Operation Description Failed Object Fault/Reason Code Location Code Warranty Type Repair/Action Code STM Labor Time 21421-12 Replace part, Depressor 21421 40 5 1 01 (Replace) Use Published STM Labor Operation Time GM bulletins are intended for use by professional technicians, NOT a "do-it-yourselfer". They are written to inform these technicians of conditions that may occur on some vehicles, or to provide information that could assist in the proper service of a vehicle. Properly trained technicians have the equipment, tools, safety instructions, and know-how to do a job properly and safely. If a condition is described, DO NOT assume that the bulletin applies to your vehicle, or that your vehicle will have that condition. See your GM dealer for information on whether your vehicle may benefit from the information. WE SUPPORT VOLUNTARY TECHNICIAN CERTIFICATION
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![]() Drives: 2010 2ss/rs IBM A6 Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Kelso WA
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I took mine in and had the lifters replaced at my dealer and it sounds great now!
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HTFU
Drives: 2SS/RS Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Arizona
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That does help, but the only question I have is it say it applies to the V8 model and I have the V6.
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HTFU
Drives: 2SS/RS Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Arizona
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well update on this. took it to the dealer today and showed him the tick, I was told that it is normal. It sucks but that is the way it is.
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My car does the same thing....kinda worries me! only does it cold, maybe I should change oil and see if problem persists?
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