New ZL1/CTS-V Brake Rotor Install Question - Page 2 - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Matty Ice · 05-22-2015, 07:26 AM

Thanks guys for answering the question.

B5254T4 · 05-22-2015, 01:32 PM

How much bigger? Crazy price on the calipers? Soooo nice to find good OEM parts instead of the K-Sport/D2 China stuff people use these days.

Chris1SS1LE · 05-22-2015, 09:58 PM

Buy the calipers at rockauto for a cadillac CTS-v rebuilds are reasonable priced.

Jenner · 05-23-2015, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris1SS1LE

Buy the calipers at rockauto for a cadillac CTS-v rebuilds are reasonable priced.

Approximately how much??

Splat · 05-31-2015, 12:35 AM

Stupid question, can the stock SS brake lines work with the ZL1/CTS V calipers?

Asking because I cant find the answer.

X25 · 05-31-2015, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Splat

Stupid question, can the stock SS brake lines work with the ZL1/CTS V calipers?

Asking because I cant find the answer.

As far as I know, they're a little bit too short, so you should get lines meant for ZL1.

Splat · 05-31-2015, 01:09 AM

....... This is disappointing, if true.

X25 · 05-31-2015, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Splat

....... This is disappointing, if true.

You'll survive. It's $100? : )

I'm sure any of the ZL1 owners who updated their lines to SS braided kind can send you their OEM lines for free.

Splat · 05-31-2015, 01:19 AM

No, what sucks is I bought a set of Goodridge lines for my SS and thought it would fit on the ZL1 calipers when I swap them.

X25 · 05-31-2015, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Splat

No, what sucks is I bought a set of Goodridge lines for my SS and thought it would fit on the ZL1 calipers when I swap them.

Oh, OK. Since you said it's disappointing without giving context, I assumed you just didn't want to buy new lines. Hopefully you can return them.

Have fun with your new brakes!

Nick S · 05-31-2015, 10:37 PM

After doing the install the SS lines really would not be a good fit for two reasons.

1. The SS lines are shorter because the SS brembo brake lines feed the caliper's from the top rear and the ZL1 brembo brake lines feed the calipers from the bottom rear. So the lines need to be a little longer to reach the bottom side of the larger yet caliper.

2. Due to the geometry differences resulting from feeing the ZL1 calipers from the bottom the banjo bolt ends on the brake lines have different bend angles in them to provide the proper brake line routing path up to the hard line connection point.

So really if you are doing the ZL1/CTS-V front brake upgrade it's just best to buy the correct brake lines. The conversion is already not exactly pocket change so don't why risk a brake failure with a $1000 conversion just because someone didn't want to spend another $100-$150 for the proper brake lines.

Dropspeed · 06-01-2015, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Nick S

I finally made the swap about 2 weeks ago. Have not had a chance to really test the braking improvement other than a few trips around the block to try and get them burnished a little.

Spend more time than you think burnishing the pads/rotors.

Here is a link to most questions regarding the change to the CTSV/ZL1 six pistons calipers on and SS.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=348133

Matt

backeddy · 06-03-2015, 11:58 PM

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I finally made the swap about 2 weeks ago. Have not had a chance to really test the braking improvement other than a few trips around the block to try and get them burnished a little.

Listen to Dropspeed.... Let me give you my advice if you do not have access to do this on a track. Go out late at night (the colder the better when doing this) and find a LONG straight away with zero traffic. First is 5 minutes of back to back 5-45-5mph runs without coming to a complete stop, nor locking them up. then comes 15 minutes(or until serious brake fade starts) of 5-75-5mph runs back to back braking as hard as possible without lockup or coming to a complete stop, at the end your brakes will be smoking hot, then drive home without using the brakes if possible and let cool overnight DO NOT APPLY PARKING BRAKE.....

X25 · 06-04-2015, 12:07 AM

Bedding in brakes is great, but if it's not feasible to do so, it's not end of the world in my opinion. I don't have access to any road that would be empty, yet allow high speeds at almost any time of the day. Well, burnishing happens at the track regardless, and it's not as crucial as would be the case for carbon ceramic brakes. In other words, it still holds pretty well, and 90% of performance with race pads is more than enough at the street, and street pads require much less bedding anyway. Still, if you have access to a road like that, why not

05-31-2015, 12:35 AM	#19
Splat Drives: 2012 1SS M6 IOM Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: New Rochelle New York Posts: 1,428 View My Garage	Stupid question, can the stock SS brake lines work with the ZL1/CTS V calipers? Asking because I cant find the answer. __________________ 2012 1SS Camaro LS3 Inferno Orange Mods: LSA Supercharger, 2.55 Pulley, Custom Boost Cam, ARH LTH 1 7/8, HFC, 3' Magnaflow Exhaust, JLT CAI, Elite CC V2, BO White Stage 2 TB, GM 3.91 Gears, DSS CF Driveshaft, BMR Bushing Kit.... . Tuned by JTM Motorsports 540 Hp 550Tq on 9PSI Axles, Monster Clutch, Hotchkis TVS Track Pack kit.......For 2018.

05-31-2015, 01:09 AM	#21
Splat Drives: 2012 1SS M6 IOM Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: New Rochelle New York Posts: 1,428 View My Garage	....... This is disappointing, if true. __________________ 2012 1SS Camaro LS3 Inferno Orange Mods: LSA Supercharger, 2.55 Pulley, Custom Boost Cam, ARH LTH 1 7/8, HFC, 3' Magnaflow Exhaust, JLT CAI, Elite CC V2, BO White Stage 2 TB, GM 3.91 Gears, DSS CF Driveshaft, BMR Bushing Kit.... . Tuned by JTM Motorsports 540 Hp 550Tq on 9PSI Axles, Monster Clutch, Hotchkis TVS Track Pack kit.......For 2018.

05-31-2015, 01:19 AM	#23
Splat Drives: 2012 1SS M6 IOM Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: New Rochelle New York Posts: 1,428 View My Garage	No, what sucks is I bought a set of Goodridge lines for my SS and thought it would fit on the ZL1 calipers when I swap them. __________________ 2012 1SS Camaro LS3 Inferno Orange Mods: LSA Supercharger, 2.55 Pulley, Custom Boost Cam, ARH LTH 1 7/8, HFC, 3' Magnaflow Exhaust, JLT CAI, Elite CC V2, BO White Stage 2 TB, GM 3.91 Gears, DSS CF Driveshaft, BMR Bushing Kit.... . Tuned by JTM Motorsports 540 Hp 550Tq on 9PSI Axles, Monster Clutch, Hotchkis TVS Track Pack kit.......For 2018.

05-31-2015, 10:37 PM	#25
Nick S Drives: 2013 Camaro 1LE Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Verona, WI Posts: 1,932	After doing the install the SS lines really would not be a good fit for two reasons. 1. The SS lines are shorter because the SS brembo brake lines feed the caliper's from the top rear and the ZL1 brembo brake lines feed the calipers from the bottom rear. So the lines need to be a little longer to reach the bottom side of the larger yet caliper. 2. Due to the geometry differences resulting from feeing the ZL1 calipers from the bottom the banjo bolt ends on the brake lines have different bend angles in them to provide the proper brake line routing path up to the hard line connection point. So really if you are doing the ZL1/CTS-V front brake upgrade it's just best to buy the correct brake lines. The conversion is already not exactly pocket change so don't why risk a brake failure with a $1000 conversion just because someone didn't want to spend another $100-$150 for the proper brake lines. __________________

06-04-2015, 12:07 AM	#28
X25 Drives: '16 C7 Z51 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Redmond, WA Posts: 3,056	Bedding in brakes is great, but if it's not feasible to do so, it's not end of the world in my opinion. I don't have access to any road that would be empty, yet allow high speeds at almost any time of the day. Well, burnishing happens at the track regardless, and it's not as crucial as would be the case for carbon ceramic brakes. In other words, it still holds pretty well, and 90% of performance with race pads is more than enough at the street, and street pads require much less bedding anyway. Still, if you have access to a road like that, why not __________________ '16 Corvette C7 Z51 1LT (Build Thread) '14 AGM 1SS 1LE [COTW 11/17/14] (Build Thread) (SOLD) '13 Mazda MX-5 Club (Build Thread) '17 RAM 1500 Crew Cab 4x4 Night Edition '15 Nissan Rogue S AWD

05-22-2015, 07:26 AM	#15
Matty Ice Drives: 2015 SS/RS 1LE Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 537	Thanks guys for answering the question.

05-22-2015, 01:32 PM	#16
B5254T4 Drives: 2015 SS Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Sweden Posts: 85	How much bigger? Crazy price on the calipers? Soooo nice to find good OEM parts instead of the K-Sport/D2 China stuff people use these days.

05-22-2015, 09:58 PM	#17
Chris1SS1LE Drives: 2014 Camaro Red Hot 1LE NPP Recaro Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Indiana Posts: 639	Buy the calipers at rockauto for a cadillac CTS-v rebuilds are reasonable priced.