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Old 11-13-2009, 06:10 PM   #15
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"The guy paying the higher price should have more rights because he earned that right through working hard for that money."
You think someone gave me 30 grand for my 6er??
You're not thinking outside the box. Think about if you decided to up your budget to an SS model. What kind of lifestyle changes would you have to make? Quite a bit I imagine which is why you didn't choose the SS. If you had made the lifestyle sacrifices to get the SS because you wanted it, don't you think you DESERVE to get more for your sacrifice?

People think of money as if everybody deserves to get it. Uh no. Work = Time. Time = Money. Life = Time. Therefore Money = Life. You literally spend your life to get money. If you work hard, you deserve the money and therefore you deserve what you can get with it.
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Old 11-13-2009, 06:12 PM   #16
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Am I a Communist because I drive a 2LT/RS?
Did I say that? I said a Communist thinks that regardless of what you do, you deserve the same as everyone else. I notice that the people objecting to the reality of my conversation are all LT/SS buyers.

Do you think you deserve to get a Ferrari Enzo by paying $15,000? Come on - lead that logic to the natural conclusion.
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Old 11-13-2009, 06:17 PM   #17
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People think of money as if everybody deserves to get it. Uh no. Work = Time. Time = Money. Life = Time. Therefore Money = Life.
You're so shallow it's sad.

They are made in the same plant, by the same people. And on top of that the car ranges from $22,000-$37,000 roughly. This is not some big jump, slightly over $15,000. Many of the 1lt,2lt/RS probably could have afforded an SS but decided not to for other reasons.
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Old 11-13-2009, 06:18 PM   #18
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Well I still say both SS models should have had the 4 pack gauges as standard equipment and not the 2LT cars.
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Old 11-13-2009, 06:18 PM   #19
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Did I say that? I said a Communist thinks that regardless of what you do, you deserve the same as everyone else. I notice that the people objecting to the reality of my conversation are all LT/SS buyers.

Do you think you deserve to get a Ferrari Enzo by paying $15,000? Come on - lead that logic to the natural conclusion.
I can't afford either car at the moment. I am currently saving for an SS, but purely because I love the rumble of the V8. Not because I need to feel superior to other Camaro drivers based on the pricetag of my vehicle. Just enjoy your car man, and let everyone else enjoy theirs.
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Old 11-13-2009, 06:20 PM   #20
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naaaaa he just has the condition I mentioned earlier, thats all.....and it must be dark in there.
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Old 11-13-2009, 06:21 PM   #21
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I can afford the SS, didn't want it. If I could pickup a Ferrari Enzo for $15k, you bet your ass I deserve it. So I'm lesser of a person because I didn't get the SS, so I shouldn't have my RS resemble the SS/RS? Even though the wife and I make more then enough to have bought the SS?

What lifestyle changes would I have had to make to drive the SS over the LT? I traded in a truck that got worse gas mileage then the SS, had more room, and more utility. It also cost about the same as the SS. So, exactly what would I have to change?

The wife's (no longer hers) Mini Cooper S is as much an SS. Yet our lifestyle didn't change. It got great gas mileage and the insurance on it was cheaper then her brand new Malibu. Oh wait, since the 'boo is only a $28k car, we have lifestyle changes to make, correct?


Get real. Camaros have always been this way. You want yours fancier then mine, fine, make it fancy. Do the work, earn the difference, don't expect it.
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Old 11-13-2009, 06:23 PM   #22
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WOW....I mean really....

shouldn't you be more concerned that the SS models look a lot like your SS/RS?

I think there are a lot more similarities between the SS and SS/RS than and LT/RS (no slot, lower fender difference, etc)

Do you also only wear clothes with big designer labels so everyone knows you paid more for them?
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Old 11-13-2009, 06:26 PM   #23
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i lol'd on that one
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Old 11-13-2009, 06:27 PM   #24
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You're so shallow it's sad.

They are made in the same plant, by the same people. And on top of that the car ranges from $22,000-$37,000 roughly. This is not some big jump, slightly over $15,000. Many of the 1lt,2lt/RS probably could have afforded an SS but decided not to for other reasons.
well exactly! We're not talking about me with my big Ferrari pooh-poohing everyone. We're talking about a differential of only $15000. I'm talking about this from a logical perspective: there should be more to differentiate a V8 from the V6 pure and simple.

I can tell a V6 Mustang from a V8 Mustang at a glance, but I often get mistaken between the Camaros unless I see the mail slot.
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I love my v-6 and worked extremely hard and waited a long time for it to become reality. I know the difference, and you think I should not have the options to have my car look like I want it to look because I chose to not spend the extra jack on the engine. Maybe you should have baught a DODGE or a FORD.....oh thats right the mustang LX and the GT look IDENTICAL.... dude you are a moron
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Old 11-13-2009, 06:29 PM   #26
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It still doesn't make sense to me that the V6 can be made to look like the V8. I know the differences already, you don't need to tell me.

The problem with the red RS badge is that it looks like the red SS badge. I have to look carefully at pictures because it's hard to tell the RS from the SS unless the picture is up close.

And I think the Ferrari comparison is not valid. The Camaro is a sports car for the middle class - but even within the middle class there should be variation whose household incomes span from $40k to $200k. There is a reason why these muscle cars have a bazillion mods you can do on them: because people want their common middle class sports car to look/sound different from the mass of others. It makes sense for the V8 to be very different looking to the V6 - I ask you seriously: why WOULD you want the V8 to look like the V6? Honestly the only ones who want that are people who can't afford the V8. And I'm not saying that to be snooty, it's the way the world should work. If there isn't "nicer" stuff to aspire to, then we'd all be Marxists.

Think about why so many people are excited about the possibility of a Z28 - because it looks different and is therefore more special. What's wrong with the SS looking more special than the V6 I ask?
Seriously, why do you even care? You have your Camaro, just ENJOY It!!
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Old 11-13-2009, 06:30 PM   #27
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I really don't like it how LT cars can be dressed up with the RS and look almost indistinguishable from the SS/RS. The SS should be the only car with the 20" tires - the LT/RS should have 19" "Midnight Silver" rims. A V6 shouldn't be driving on 20" rims - why would it need them? Furthermore the LT/RS should have a different spoiler, and the HIDS shouldn't have Halos. All these would make the V6 clearly different from the V8 on all sides.

Sorry but I'm not a Communist. The guy paying the higher price should have more rights because he earned that right through working hard for that money. I don't like how GM makes it so easy for someone to cheap out and still get the same look. I suppose the LT/RS folks here will disagree with me but that's because you have that car - if you had the SS/RS you would agree with me. A V8 should look meaner - that's why you get it. It shouldn't look the same!!


You are joking right. Kinda sounds like you think you are better than the people that bought the 6. There may have been many reasons why they bought the 6 other than money. MPH, insurance for a couple. Personally I wish my SS had no badging or mail slot. There is a guy here with LS wheels on his SS looks good. Can you spell COPO?
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Old 11-13-2009, 06:31 PM   #28
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I can afford the SS, didn't want it. If I could pickup a Ferrari Enzo for $15k, you bet your ass I deserve it. So I'm lesser of a person because I didn't get the SS, so I shouldn't have my RS resemble the SS/RS? Even though the wife and I make more then enough to have bought the SS?

What lifestyle changes would I have had to make to drive the SS over the LT? I traded in a truck that got worse gas mileage then the SS, had more room, and more utility. It also cost about the same as the SS. So, exactly what would I have to change?

The wife's (no longer hers) Mini Cooper S is as much an SS. Yet our lifestyle didn't change. It got great gas mileage and the insurance on it was cheaper then her brand new Malibu. Oh wait, since the 'boo is only a $28k car, we have lifestyle changes to make, correct?


Get real. Camaros have always been this way. You want yours fancier then mine, fine, make it fancy. Do the work, earn the difference, don't expect it.
you're making this sound as if this is about judging the quality of people. That's an unfair assessment.

Your last sentence is a contradiction. You say "if you want to make it fancy, do the work" - which is what I'm saying; then you contradict it with "don't expect it". Well heck - I'm paying more because I expect it to be fancy!
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