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Ghost of Vincent Price · 03-16-2010, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DSteck

This (to me) implies the car is going to pick up power with more miles.

Readiness checks, yes, they will need time to pass (evap test can bite me, FYI), but otherwise the car should run tip-top right off the bat if everything is where it should be.

What he said. PE tables dont change. I assume that people think WOT will change over time.

DSteck · 03-16-2010, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghost of Vincent Price

What he said. PE tables dont change. I assume that people think WOT will change over time.

Although that's sort of a grey subject, since a positive trim can and will carry over. Easy to avoid though!

06MonteSS · 03-16-2010, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DSteck

This (to me) implies the car is going to pick up power with more miles.

Readiness checks, yes, they will need time to pass (evap test can bite me, FYI), but otherwise the car should run tip-top right off the bat if everything is where it should be.

correct, WOT is immediate...

I'm talking about normal, part-throttle driving, response, acceleration, etc... the response of the car does get better, as the fuel trims are re-learned and settle in as you put on miles...

DSteck · 03-16-2010, 12:22 PM

I guess my point is that it shouldn't take time to do it. Oh well, I don't feel like getting into it.

FLYNNZL1 · 03-16-2010, 12:56 PM

I have a LS3, with it being a manual, its hard to feel the gains. How much HP did I gain when I added the Diablo 91 octane tune?

I have a Airaid CAI and Muffler delete also.

*mlee* · 03-16-2010, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike@Diablosport

Nice results, and thanks for sharing!!

NP... although I did have to pay for a TCM tune...

Russell James · 03-29-2010, 06:31 PM

For an M6 SS with LT headers and a Halltech CAI, will the Diabo 93 tune be OK to run until dyno tuned? Or is that tune more aimed at completely stock exhaust and intake?

I have a custom tune coming for my header and CAI, and I have a Predator. I need to get my OE cal into the predator to send that file to the tuner. Should I leave the Diablo 93 tune in my ECM while waiting for the custom tune?

Frekkk · 03-29-2010, 06:51 PM

This is pretty technical in here in regards of this but I would tend to sway towards the fact you won't get "a lot" of HP increase but a small increase that you may not even notice. That's just my opinion but I'm sure the tehcy guys here can expalin in more detail what you need to get "a lot" more HP.

Regards

Russell James · 03-29-2010, 09:09 PM

ttt any opinions on running the Diablo tune with headers/CAI?

For an M6 SS with LT headers and a Halltech CAI, will the Diabo 93 tune be OK to run until dyno tuned? Or is that tune more aimed at completely stock exhaust and intake?

I have a custom tune coming for my header and CAI, and I have a Predator. I need to get my OE cal into the predator to send that file to the tuner. Should I leave the Diablo 93 tune in my ECM while waiting for the custom tune?

06MonteSS · 03-29-2010, 09:13 PM

the tune will run fine with those mods... you'll notice a nice improvment..

you might throw a CEL tho - will just need to get a custom tune made in order to disable the rear O2 codes because of the LT headers...

running the diablo tune in the car while you wait for your "custom" tune will be perfectly fine... there are no issues with the tunes..

Russell James · 03-29-2010, 09:33 PM

Thanks, I did notice a nice improvement. Much snappier when romping on it. That's probably the biggest thing I noticed, the throttle response seems more instant.

VelocityC6 · 03-30-2010, 08:07 PM

I had poor results with the Predator on my former 05 GTO, around town the throttle response was improved, the car "felt" quicker...BUT...the stock pred tune detonated and pulled timing consistently when going WOT. Things "seemed" to get better when I adjusted the slope, took care of the timing pull but was disheartened when on the dyno it was below my previous stock pulls by -20rwhp. We loaded back the stock tune after a few lousy pulls and gained all the hp right back (340's)......gave the predator another try a few weeks later with a custom email tune and again it fell a couple hp short to the stock rwhp.....loaded the stock tune back in the car, enjoyed the increased *stock* tune hp and put the predator up for sale.....

IMO, nice tool for logging data/clearing codes, but left me very disappointed in making power.

Mike@DS · 03-31-2010, 11:58 AM

sounds like you had some KR issues in that GTO, thats certainly not the norm for feedback from LS2 GTO guys...

tom692010 · 04-01-2010, 11:58 PM

I installed my predator about 130 miles ago(amazing how fast u put miles on) Quicker throttle response I agree/. But when I'm in second and running about 3000 rpm and go wot it nearly throws me into the back seat. I haven't had it dynoed but I feel thorough my a** I got my moneys worth. Next is Montes custom tweek. Thanks for your quick responses,both Monte and Mike, your CS is a+

03-29-2010, 09:13 PM	#24
06MonteSS Account Suspended Drives: 2006 Monte Carlo SS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: CT Posts: 226	the tune will run fine with those mods... you'll notice a nice improvment.. you might throw a CEL tho - will just need to get a custom tune made in order to disable the rear O2 codes because of the LT headers... running the diablo tune in the car while you wait for your "custom" tune will be perfectly fine... there are no issues with the tunes.. Last edited by 06MonteSS; 03-29-2010 at 09:50 PM.

03-30-2010, 08:07 PM	#26
VelocityC6 Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Chicopee Posts: 42	I had poor results with the Predator on my former 05 GTO, around town the throttle response was improved, the car "felt" quicker...BUT...the stock pred tune detonated and pulled timing consistently when going WOT. Things "seemed" to get better when I adjusted the slope, took care of the timing pull but was disheartened when on the dyno it was below my previous stock pulls by -20rwhp. We loaded back the stock tune after a few lousy pulls and gained all the hp right back (340's)......gave the predator another try a few weeks later with a custom email tune and again it fell a couple hp short to the stock rwhp.....loaded the stock tune back in the car, enjoyed the increased stock tune hp and put the predator up for sale..... IMO, nice tool for logging data/clearing codes, but left me very disappointed in making power. __________________ 2006 Lemans Blue C6 Z06 1995 3000GT VR4-sold 2005 Pontiac GTO-sold 2007 Corvette Z51-sold

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03-16-2010, 12:22 PM	#18
DSteck Account Suspended Drives: 2006 Corvette Z06 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 587	I guess my point is that it shouldn't take time to do it. Oh well, I don't feel like getting into it.

03-16-2010, 12:56 PM	#19
FLYNNZL1 Account Suspended Drives: Man Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Usa Posts: 3,175 View My Garage	I have a LS3, with it being a manual, its hard to feel the gains. How much HP did I gain when I added the Diablo 91 octane tune? I have a Airaid CAI and Muffler delete also.

03-29-2010, 06:31 PM	#21
Russell James Drives: '15 SS 1LE, '69 Z28 drag car Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Mich Posts: 4,482	For an M6 SS with LT headers and a Halltech CAI, will the Diabo 93 tune be OK to run until dyno tuned? Or is that tune more aimed at completely stock exhaust and intake? I have a custom tune coming for my header and CAI, and I have a Predator. I need to get my OE cal into the predator to send that file to the tuner. Should I leave the Diablo 93 tune in my ECM while waiting for the custom tune?

03-29-2010, 06:51 PM	#22
Frekkk Drives: Mad and Fast Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: UK Posts: 1	This is pretty technical in here in regards of this but I would tend to sway towards the fact you won't get "a lot" of HP increase but a small increase that you may not even notice. That's just my opinion but I'm sure the tehcy guys here can expalin in more detail what you need to get "a lot" more HP. Regards

03-29-2010, 09:09 PM	#23
Russell James Drives: '15 SS 1LE, '69 Z28 drag car Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Mich Posts: 4,482	ttt any opinions on running the Diablo tune with headers/CAI? For an M6 SS with LT headers and a Halltech CAI, will the Diabo 93 tune be OK to run until dyno tuned? Or is that tune more aimed at completely stock exhaust and intake? I have a custom tune coming for my header and CAI, and I have a Predator. I need to get my OE cal into the predator to send that file to the tuner. Should I leave the Diablo 93 tune in my ECM while waiting for the custom tune?

03-29-2010, 09:33 PM	#25
Russell James Drives: '15 SS 1LE, '69 Z28 drag car Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Mich Posts: 4,482	Thanks, I did notice a nice improvement. Much snappier when romping on it. That's probably the biggest thing I noticed, the throttle response seems more instant.

03-31-2010, 11:58 AM	#27
Mike@DS Drives: 99 Z28 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: SoFla Posts: 230	sounds like you had some KR issues in that GTO, thats certainly not the norm for feedback from LS2 GTO guys...

04-01-2010, 11:58 PM	#28
tom692010 Account Suspended Drives: 4 wheels Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Here Posts: 1,402	I installed my predator about 130 miles ago(amazing how fast u put miles on) Quicker throttle response I agree/. But when I'm in second and running about 3000 rpm and go wot it nearly throws me into the back seat. I haven't had it dynoed but I feel thorough my a** I got my moneys worth. Next is Montes custom tweek. Thanks for your quick responses,both Monte and Mike, your CS is a+