Wheel weights on my Camaro's calipers

[RyanSSaddict]

On the back of my car, the right white light underneath the brake light their is some condensation on the inside of the light. I went to my local dealer to see what they can do, and hopefully they can fix it.

[GRAHL]

Originally Posted by orange_5thgen

Yeah that answer from GM sucks. I hope mine does not have them either. My main concern is how long will they stay on? How long will it be before you're driving down the road and they come off and then who knows what kind of damage they might do to your car or some elses on the road. Maybe that's a little paranoid, but I just don't like it. This definitely needs to be a recall. It's a band aid so they could get the cars out there. I'm mean I'm glad that I might be getting my car soon, but I could have waited a few additonal weeks for a better, proper fix.

The weights ARE a proper fix, from real engineers. Don't confuse that with aesthetics.

You guys stop kidding yourselves about worrying that the weights will fall off. You know they won't! What do you know that the engineers don't? You're just whining because you know they're there, even if you have to get on hands and knees to see them. LOL, god forbid you ever restore an older camaro. If you want a hand-crafted perfect piece of art then save up for a Bentley. Otherwise, just enjoy your car and whip some a$$ on the street. There's more important things in life to worry about you fussy yuppies.

[RyanSSaddict]

First, i'm not a yuppie, I can't stand yuppies, LOL!! I am kicking ass with my Camaro, the Mustangs and Chrysler's are scared to death of the Camaro. The people on here have been waiting for a long time for this car, so they want their cars to be a certain way, that's all.

[dodson914]

Glad GM found a fix before releasing it. Thanks for getting the REAL answer after all the unnecessary drama. Hopefully a TSB will be issued later on to fix the early production cars.

[orange_5thgen]

Originally Posted by GRAHL

The weights ARE a proper fix, from real engineers. Don't confuse that with aesthetics.

You guys stop kidding yourselves about worrying that the weights will fall off. You know they won't! What do you know that the engineers don't? You're just whining because you know they're there, even if you have to get on hands and knees to see them. LOL, god forbid you ever restore an older camaro. If you want a hand-crafted perfect piece of art then save up for a Bentley. Otherwise, just enjoy your car and whip some a$$ on the street. There's more important things in life to worry about you fussy yuppies.

Yeah I'm a yuppy alright. You're right, it would have been a while before I noticed them, but now I do know about them and I don't like them. True, chance of them falling of is probably slim, but I still don't like it. Either way I still want my car and I can't freakin wait to get it. This is just the topic to bitch about right now. I still say it was a quick fix to get it out the door, but I can live with it. I can see it in the headlines. 20 car pile up on I-90 caused by weights that flew off a 5th gen camaro's break calipers!

[GRAHL]

Originally Posted by RyanSSaddict

First, i'm not a yuppie, I can't stand yuppies, LOL!! I am kicking ass with my Camaro, the Mustangs and Chrysler's are scared to death of the Camaro. The people on here have been waiting for a long time for this car, so they want their cars to be a certain way, that's all.

Okay, then, sorry to judge. But the younger guys won't care about the weights because the car is bad a$$ in every way, and older guys like me (30+) have been tearing up the streets in old camaros that rattled and squeaked--and loved every minute of it, so the weights don't matter there either. The complainers on here gotta be a different breed. When you say "a certain way" i still can't believe how people are flipping out, bothered by something just because they know it's there. One guy says the weight will affect the suspension!!! If that's the case then a pocket full of change would do the same thing! LOL.

Alright, tear it up and make some vids and post them here!

[TLSTWIN]

Originally Posted by GRAHL

, and older guys like me (30+)

Now I'm old at 35

[GRAHL]

Originally Posted by TLSTWIN

Now I'm old at 35

Sorry, no! LOL!! i've offended everyone on here!! I'm shutting up for the night. It's just I've driven camaros for 20 years and i'm just so excited about this new generation and see how good it is and i can't believe people still find stuff to complain about--so i figured they gotta be "younger than me" and haven't "been through it" that's all!! I'm 36 BTW.

[shinzon]

IMO that is terrible. some people dropped 38k on this car and they get a rigged caliper. WOW,

The first model year blues........

Any G8 GXPs have this> ??? CTS-Vs ???

[TLSTWIN]

Originally Posted by GRAHL

Sorry, no! LOL!! i've offended everyone on here!! I'm shutting up for the night. It's just I've driven camaros for 20 years and i'm just so excited about this new generation and see how good it is and i can't believe people still find stuff to complain about--so i figured they gotta be "younger than me" and haven't "been through it" that's all!! I'm 36 BTW.

I now I agree

[JGalli]

Exact reason why I will never buy a car in that is in the first year of production again. I learned that after I bought my used '02 wrx that has a 2nd gear made out of glass.

[Beechdoctor]

Originally Posted by GRAHL

The weights ARE a proper fix, from real engineers. Don't confuse that with aesthetics.

You guys stop kidding yourselves about worrying that the weights will fall off. You know they won't! What do you know that the engineers don't? You're just whining because you know they're there, even if you have to get on hands and knees to see them. LOL, god forbid you ever restore an older camaro. If you want a hand-crafted perfect piece of art then save up for a Bentley. Otherwise, just enjoy your car and whip some a$$ on the street. There's more important things in life to worry about you fussy yuppies.

While I don’t intend to inflame this thread with personal attacks, the weights ARE NOT a proper fix.

For the near $40,000 I'm spending for this car, I do expect better than this. This IS like prescribing a Band-Aid for cancer.....Does anybody really think these stick on weights will be there 1, 2, or 10 years from now??? This is one of the tackiest (pun intended)engineering "patches" I've ever seen with a GM product. If weights are needed to mitigate a vibration, they would be designed to fit the caliper somehow....not lead stuck to the caliper with double sided sticky tape!!!

There is a lot of pressure to deliver this car from management...especially during the current economic pressures at GM. I suggest this to be a short sighted attempt to move cars down the line prior a proper "fix" of a resonance issue. No...I do not, nor have ever worked for GM, but have seen similar botched decisions in an aero-space manufacturing environment made by well intended individuals trying to fix an issue without really solving the problem due to "limited engineering resources" and a need to please marketing pressures. This is still a business trying to turn a profit, and the fear of not hitting their "numbers" leads to short sighted decisions like this.

Sorry about the rant, but does GM really think we are going to swallow this line of ???

[PQ]

Originally Posted by Captain Awesome

Forgive me for asking this but I didn't read that.

All I saw was it was a fix for early cars made after careful evaluation by engineers.

How you get "replace" from that I dunno.

Did I miss some other post?

That's me betting that it will happen. I was saying that I beleive we've established the reason for the weights and that Oshawa is replacing the questionable calipers for the cars when they get them. And I'm assuming a replace will be in order. I've never seen a company leave known defect parts on cars. Sure it's not a safety thing but it's either that or they beleive the weights are secure enough for permanent use.

Nothing official but I beleive that's what it will be.

[Jonmalibuss]

Originally Posted by Beechdoctor

While I don’t intend to inflame this thread with personal attacks, the weights ARE NOT a proper fix.

For the near $40,000 I'm spending for this car, I do expect better than this. This IS like prescribing a Band-Aid for cancer.....Does anybody really think these stick on weights will be there 1, 2, or 10 years from now??? This is one of the tackiest (pun intended)engineering "patches" I've ever seen with a GM product. If weights are needed to mitigate a vibration, they would be designed to fit the caliper somehow....not lead stuck to the caliper with double sided sticky tape!!!

There is a lot of pressure to deliver this car from management...especially during the current economic pressures at GM. I suggest this to be a short sighted attempt to move cars down the line prior a proper "fix" of a resonance issue. No...I do not, nor have ever worked for GM, but have seen similar botched decisions in an aero-space manufacturing environment made by well intended individuals trying to fix an issue without really solving the problem due to "limited engineering resources" and a need to please marketing pressures. This is still a business trying to turn a profit, and the fear of not hitting their "numbers" leads to short sighted decisions like this.

Sorry about the rant, but does GM really think we are going to swallow this line of ???

I'm not for or against the idea of the weights. I think as everyone keeps saying we are lucky GM was able to build this car for all of us. As for the "engineering solution" I am not an engineer but I am a race car fabricator and i have worked with many engineers and none of them could design anything that looked appealing even though their idea worked it had to be modified to work with the rest of the design of the vehicle and look as if it is supposed to be there. I would also have to agree with another previous statement as to the simple fix may be them replacing the pads with different ones. The Baer brakes on the front of my truck came with some very hard pads that were intended to last quite a long time but they made a ton of noise untill you got heat into them. I contacted Baer and they sent me a different set of pads that were a bit softer which fixed a couple problems. One the noise was completely gone and two it was easier on the rotors making them last longer. I saw no sacrifice in braking performance, if anything they seem to bite a bit more. They may wear faster and if so I havn't noticed it going on 30K with drilled and slotted rotors and there is still easily 70% of the pad left.