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jdpdesign · 05-31-2011, 12:45 PM

Just put a set of 304 TSP headers, cats, catback and Intake on this weekend. Jason really got the headers right and the install and sound is great! I had the complete system and intake installed in 3hr with a couple breaks for refreshments.

InfernoCamaroSS · 05-31-2011, 01:26 PM

That's what I like to hear jason. Do they come with a 3 in x pipe or do you have to buy that seperate.

CausticGuy · 05-31-2011, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason 98 TA

Remember 99% of the manufacturers use a stainless that is imported in & then bent in the U.S.

I never knew this... Anyone confirm thats the truth? Not saying it isnt true, it just puts another spin on the the "all american headers"

blazzin1 · 05-31-2011, 02:20 PM

Jason....Another question for you. If I remember correctly, your new headers only have the ports (or bungs) for two of the O2 sensors (not four), is that correct??? If that is true, what is the significance of this, and which two are deleted (forward or aft of the cat)? What do you do with the two remaining wire connections that are no longer needed? I thought I remember hearing that these two sensors are "tuned out" anyway when the tune is accomplished anyway...is that true?

ssmike · 05-31-2011, 02:24 PM

If you go with the cat delete (off road) connection pipes the rear 2 sensors are not used and tuned out with a tune. Just tie wrap the connectors up out of the way. If you go with the high flow catted connection the rear 2 sensors can be installed and connected to the wiring but they are also deleted in the tune from reporting falsely.

blk5genss · 05-31-2011, 02:25 PM

Well said Jason, I think I will be swapping out the PaceSetters for a set of TSP 1 7/8 soon!! Anyon want an 8 month old set of 1 3/4 PaceSetters? They did make 481 with my combo listed below!! The only reason I even want to swap them out is bc I want to get closer to 500 and the bigger headers and ported TSP heads should put me there for sure!! Maybe 300 with the O/R connection pipes? Serious about this!! PM me!!

InfernoCamaroSS · 05-31-2011, 03:51 PM

Blk5genss is your car an auto or manual

Jason 98 TA · 05-31-2011, 04:01 PM

You are correct we only keep the front o2 sensors. The rears are for checking the cats & even with high flow cats they still throw a code. As a result we leave the rear o2s out just like most of the companies do. I just don't really want to pay for o2 bungs, or have the o2 sticking in the flow restricting air when they don't do anything productive.

natebosworth · 05-31-2011, 05:11 PM

Jason, question for ya. I remember a while back heating about a O2 sensor simulator. Have you ever used them? It seems like a great cheater to not throw codes. And to be able to use long tubes. Its also a plus to not have to spend another $3-400 on a tune and potentially void a gm warranty?
Any input? or other advise??

Inferno2SS · 05-31-2011, 05:15 PM

Can some one please tell my what the biggest difference (pros and cons) is between the off road extension pipes and the catted extension pipes?

Is there a much of a difference in HP or emissions/pollution? Is it mainly just a difference in sound? I think I want the catted extension pipes because they would be more likely to pass an emissions test, disregarding the visual inspection and would put out less pollution but don't want to spend the extra dollars if it is pointless. Plus, I have another 3 years before I am required to do an emissions test anyway.

tarheel34 · 05-31-2011, 06:48 PM

I just received mine in the mail today! Ordered on Thursday and they were shipped from Texas to WV! Now, to get these puppies installed...

ssmike · 05-31-2011, 06:49 PM

Inferno2SS
Off road pipes: pros, more power, cheaper....cons, more pollution, more smell, fail emissions
Catted pipes: pros, less pollution, less smell, pass emissions....cons, less power, more expensive

Inferno2SS · 05-31-2011, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssmike

Inferno2SS
Off road pipes: pros, more power, cheaper....cons, more pollution, more smell, fail emissions
Catted pipes: pros, less pollution, less smell, pass emissions....cons, less power, more expensive

Thanks, think I will go with the catted pipes.

caverman · 05-31-2011, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssmike

Inferno2SS
Off road pipes: pros, more power, cheaper....cons, more pollution, more smell, fail emissions
Catted pipes: pros, less pollution, less smell, pass emissions....cons, less power, more expensive

Not sure about that one. Jannetty did a test of LTs with and without HF cats and there was basically no difference.

Cost...yes....more expensive but I wouldn't base it on more vs less power. It will be so minimal you'll never know the difference.

05-31-2011, 02:25 PM	#34
blk5genss Drives: 2010 Camaro 1SS/RS Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: San Anonio, Texas Posts: 574	Well said Jason, I think I will be swapping out the PaceSetters for a set of TSP 1 7/8 soon!! Anyon want an 8 month old set of 1 3/4 PaceSetters? They did make 481 with my combo listed below!! The only reason I even want to swap them out is bc I want to get closer to 500 and the bigger headers and ported TSP heads should put me there for sure!! Maybe 300 with the O/R connection pipes? Serious about this!! PM me!! __________________ TSP Cam 231/236 112 LSA,TSP UD,Fast 102 w/Ported TB,AirAid CAI,1 7/8 catted Stainless Power LT,3 IN MBRP 3 in Exhaust/180*,Spohn LTA's,Toe Links, Drag Bar,Diff bushings,Hurst shifter,Hendrix/DSS 1400HP Axles,Nitto NT555R's,Lethal Performance Custon Tune 480 RWHP 454 RWTQ!! Best run so far is 11.94@121 LPE 3.91's Coming soon NW 102, and DSS DS, then car should be complete!!!

05-31-2011, 06:48 PM	#39
tarheel34 Go Heels!!! Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: May 2010 Location: WV Posts: 241	I just received mine in the mail today! Ordered on Thursday and they were shipped from Texas to WV! Now, to get these puppies installed... __________________ Team L99 2010 Summit White 2SS/RS L99: TSP 1 7/8 LTs - Off-Road Pipes \| Tuned By BLUECAT \| CAI Cold Air Intake \| ADM Race Scoop \| SLP UD Pulley \| VMAX Throttle Body \| Magnaflow X-Pipe \| Muffler Delete \| SLP 160* T-Stat \| MSD Wires

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05-31-2011, 12:45 PM	#29
jdpdesign Drives: 2SS/RS Join Date: May 2011 Location: Frisco, TX Posts: 21	Just put a set of 304 TSP headers, cats, catback and Intake on this weekend. Jason really got the headers right and the install and sound is great! I had the complete system and intake installed in 3hr with a couple breaks for refreshments.

05-31-2011, 01:26 PM	#30
InfernoCamaroSS Drives: 2010 camaro ss Join Date: May 2011 Location: houston Posts: 41	That's what I like to hear jason. Do they come with a 3 in x pipe or do you have to buy that seperate.

05-31-2011, 02:20 PM	#32
blazzin1 Drives: 2010 2SS/RS R6P Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: St. Cloud, FL Posts: 4,845 View My Garage	Jason....Another question for you. If I remember correctly, your new headers only have the ports (or bungs) for two of the O2 sensors (not four), is that correct??? If that is true, what is the significance of this, and which two are deleted (forward or aft of the cat)? What do you do with the two remaining wire connections that are no longer needed? I thought I remember hearing that these two sensors are "tuned out" anyway when the tune is accomplished anyway...is that true?

05-31-2011, 02:24 PM	#33
ssmike BL1ZZRD Drives: '16 Camaro 2SS, '20 Equinox Redline Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 7,841	If you go with the cat delete (off road) connection pipes the rear 2 sensors are not used and tuned out with a tune. Just tie wrap the connectors up out of the way. If you go with the high flow catted connection the rear 2 sensors can be installed and connected to the wiring but they are also deleted in the tune from reporting falsely.

05-31-2011, 03:51 PM	#35
InfernoCamaroSS Drives: 2010 camaro ss Join Date: May 2011 Location: houston Posts: 41	Blk5genss is your car an auto or manual

05-31-2011, 04:01 PM	#36
Jason 98 TA Drives: Camaro Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 1,670	You are correct we only keep the front o2 sensors. The rears are for checking the cats & even with high flow cats they still throw a code. As a result we leave the rear o2s out just like most of the companies do. I just don't really want to pay for o2 bungs, or have the o2 sticking in the flow restricting air when they don't do anything productive.

05-31-2011, 05:11 PM	#37
natebosworth N8SS Drives: 10' Red Jewel 2ss-rs Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: utah Posts: 12 View My Garage	Jason, question for ya. I remember a while back heating about a O2 sensor simulator. Have you ever used them? It seems like a great cheater to not throw codes. And to be able to use long tubes. Its also a plus to not have to spend another $3-400 on a tune and potentially void a gm warranty? Any input? or other advise??

05-31-2011, 05:15 PM	#38
Inferno2SS Drives: 2010 IOM 2SS/RS Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Westminster, CO Posts: 797 View My Garage	Can some one please tell my what the biggest difference (pros and cons) is between the off road extension pipes and the catted extension pipes? Is there a much of a difference in HP or emissions/pollution? Is it mainly just a difference in sound? I think I want the catted extension pipes because they would be more likely to pass an emissions test, disregarding the visual inspection and would put out less pollution but don't want to spend the extra dollars if it is pointless. Plus, I have another 3 years before I am required to do an emissions test anyway.

05-31-2011, 06:49 PM	#40
ssmike BL1ZZRD Drives: '16 Camaro 2SS, '20 Equinox Redline Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 7,841	Inferno2SS Off road pipes: pros, more power, cheaper....cons, more pollution, more smell, fail emissions Catted pipes: pros, less pollution, less smell, pass emissions....cons, less power, more expensive