Sticking clutch.. answers????

[calbert1999]

Originally Posted by justa25thTA

I believe for most people this is only happening on the track, or during "spirited" street driving, not while shifting to 6th at 65 mph on the highway.

I understand the frustration, but if I was having the issue I would certainly try the $100 band-aid, versus ripping the whole thing out. I believe every brand of clutch has had the same problem.

That's my understanding of the issue too I'm currently investigating the purchase of a new clutch too because when if first happened I thought I fried the clutch. I know eventually I'll need a new clutch, but for now I'd rather not put out the cash until I "hear from GM" why this happens and what the "real fix" is going to be. Unfortunately, GM (Chevrolet) has been silent on the issue, irresponsible and in denial there is a problem and continue to blame it on driver error / operation. From what I've read this has been a problem with previous versions of the vehicle and is used as a risk mitigation (not to break something else).

Originally Posted by kevin1106

The part I don't get is.... I never had a problem with my clutch sticking before.. It started this right after changing over to the zr-1.. which makes me want to blame my issues due to the zr-1 clutch..

and the fact that I paid 1873.00 to now have this problem.. thats what really pisses me of... and lingenfelter.... LMAO wants basically 100 more dollars...

I never had the issue either until I started driving more aggressively once I started getting used the vehicle. Took me a whole 1 summer season, and then it was over.
This summer I started driving the vehicle like a sports car (not shifting until in higher RPM's), and then after about a week, ta'da clutch stuck to floor in 2nd. gear shifting to 3rd. @ around 4-4.5k RPM.
Could it be that once you got the super-duper RPS clutch you started driving / shifting more aggressively? That would explain it.
If you start reading other threads with clutch issues, you'll notice people are having this issue with SPEC, RAM, ZR1 (and all other names this clutch is known as).
This is a GM problem not an LPE problem, LPE just re-sells clutch kits, and their own return spring fix. They don't even make the ZR1 clutch.

Originally Posted by kevin1106

There is no way I can live with this problem.... When all come down to it.. that... this is the way it is... sorry about your luck.... Im selling my car..

I hear you, and agree. If I didn't mod my vehicle as much as I have I would sell to. But, I'm in too deep now (I rather like the car too except for the f**k up design of the internals).
Before, you sell make sure you raise hell with GM, otherwise they'll just keep selling the car with the problems it has.
This vehicle 2010, 2011 has been around for a while now, and every single person I know with a Camaro has this issue. It's pretty difficult for GM to deny there is a big problem here. But, yet you don't hear anyone from GM on the forums asking questions or attempting to help, all they care about is selling the ZL1 to all the suckers who'll trade in the messed up 2010 Camaro comeback for a ZL1, and that's not right.
So, call the head office and complain before you sell.

[kevin1106]

Originally Posted by calbert1999

I never had the issue either until I started driving more aggressively once I started getting used the vehicle. Took me a whole 1 summer season, and then it was over.
This summer I started driving the vehicle like a sports car (not shifting until in higher RPM's), and then after about a week, ta'da clutch stuck to floor in 2nd. gear shifting to 3rd. @ around 4-4.5k RPM.
Could it be that once you got the super-duper RPS clutch you started driving / shifting more aggressively? That would explain it.
If you start reading other threads with clutch issues, you'll notice people are having this issue with SPEC, RAM, ZR1 (and all other names this clutch is known as).
This is a GM problem not an LPE problem, LPE just re-sells clutch kits, and their own return spring fix. They don't even make the ZR1 clutch.



I hear you, and agree. If I didn't mod my vehicle as much as I have I would sell to. But, I'm in too deep now (I rather like the car too except for the f**k up design of the internals).
Before, you sell make sure you raise hell with GM, otherwise they'll just keep selling the car with the problems it has.
This vehicle 2010, 2011 has been around for a while now, and every single person I know with a Camaro has this issue. It's pretty difficult for GM to deny there is a big problem here. But, yet you don't hear anyone from GM on the forums asking questions or attempting to help, all they care about is selling the ZL1 to all the suckers who'll trade in the messed up 2010 Camaro comeback for a ZL1, and that's not right.
So, call the head office and complain before you sell.

I agree with you.. I noticed on the box that it was made in china... not by LPE....

Maybe your right.. but when I had my ram clutch... I was going to the track every weekend.. I must of had 20 passes on it... It never stuck to the floor...

Now I can even go to the track.. not like this.. and I have a brand new set of bogarts in my garage...( I havent even mounted the tires yet cause of this) that are of no use to me right now. I would look like an idiot at the track...


Im determend to fix this... I'm thinking of buying a small video camara... and put if in the bell house and record my throw out bearing and pressure plate at high rpm shifts....

[calbert1999]

Originally Posted by kevin1106

I agree with you.. I noticed on the box that it was made in china... not by LPE....

Maybe your right.. but when I had my ram clutch... I was going to the track every weekend.. I must of had 20 passes on it... It never stuck to the floor...

Now I can even go to the track.. not like this.. and I have a brand new set of bogarts in my garage...( I havent even mounted the tires yet cause of this) that are of no use to me right now. I would look like an idiot at the track...


Im determend to fix this... I'm thinking of buying a small video camara... and put if in the bell house and record my throw out bearing and pressure plate at high rpm shifts....

I had a Z28 in the 90's and don't recall any of the issues I've had with this new vehicle. Part of it is all the new BS government regulations that force vehicle manufactures to "dumb" down the cars, the other is to meet all the regulations and still make some cash they use shit parts or scale down the performance capacity and the consumer pays for it. I really like the car, but find myself attempting to correct all the screw ups so I can drive it the way it should be driven (with confidence), and perform without breaking up into pieces.
It is frustrating, but a necessary evil, otherwise like you said in previous response; Sell it and get something else.
Problem is I'm not hearing the same stories from people with other high end vehicles brands, and that' makes me think perhaps these domestic automakers were really in distress due to low level of vehicle quality and lousy service. Previously, I didn't think that was the case, but now having purchased a new "high performing" vehicle I'm thinking it's quite possible.
But, like I said if we "the consumers" don't do anything about it but trade up, nothing will be done about it.
If I were you I'd ask about "steel" discs instead of the newer materials their using in these new clutches.
My clutch will be "all" steel, I don't want any organic s**t, I'd prefer a bit of the old skool chatter than the new school clutch / pedal failures.
That's just me though.

[kevin1106]

I'm going to def complain.. Went out for a ride today.. I bled my Clutch.. once again.. (I'm tired of spending money on brake fluid) I put prestone it in this time... I was surprised.. It didnt stick.. Im gonna drive my camaro tomorrow to work and see what happens..

Wouldnt it be nice if it was fixed!!!

Im dreaming here...lol.. but Ill see tomorrow morning..

[calbert1999]

Originally Posted by kevin1106

I'm going to def complain.. Went out for a ride today.. I bled my Clutch.. once again.. (I'm tired of spending money on brake fluid) I put prestone it in this time... I was surprised.. It didnt stick.. Im gonna drive my camaro tomorrow to work and see what happens..

Wouldnt it be nice if it was fixed!!!

Im dreaming here...lol.. but Ill see tomorrow morning..

I hope it works I changed mine a few months ago. Never know, maybe in need for another fluid change.

[kevin1106]

Ok so I Know this will sound crazy... But not once today did my clutch stick... What gives... Can fluid really make this much of a difference? I went with willwood 600 pro... To some cheap prestone.... Now my clutch seems fine... I think it's gonna be nice again tomorrow... So if it doesn't happen tomorrow... I'm gonna guess that this fixed the problem... I'm still skeptical though. I'm just waiting on it to happen again. Lol

[Matster]

Originally Posted by kevin1106

Ok so I Know this will sound crazy... But not once today did my clutch stick... What gives... Can fluid really make this much of a difference? I went with willwood 600 pro... To some cheap prestone.... Now my clutch seems fine... I think it's gonna be nice again tomorrow... So if it doesn't happen tomorrow... I'm gonna guess that this fixed the problem... I'm still skeptical though. I'm just waiting on it to happen again. Lol

That's good news Kevin, if you haven't done so, seriously consider adding a separating clutch reservoir. The cost is minimal compared to the frustration this issue creates. Then just keep an eye on the fluid in the separate reservoir and change it every 2K miles or as it starts to get a darker color.

Keep us posted.

[kevin1106]

Well my luck ran out today.... Back to the drawling board... Clutch stuck once again and felt spongy... After 30 seconds or so... I felt the clutch come back up. Going to try separating the fluids. I really don't see how this will help, but I'm ready to try anything at this point.

[calbert1999]

Originally Posted by kevin1106

Well my luck ran out today.... Back to the drawling board... Clutch stuck once again and felt spongy... After 30 seconds or so... I felt the clutch come back up. Going to try separating the fluids. I really don't see how this will help, but I'm ready to try anything at this point.

I hear ya' man. The problems with this issue is very frustrating. Last week, while driving home doing a modest 60kms. on the hwy. I think the clutch went, and caused overrevs to my engine, now I need to do engine work.
So, far found a bent valve, not sure if any "major" stuff broken deeper inside. We'll find out next week. But, this was my earlier comment. The clutch issues "can" be dangerous, nothing happened to me or my girl at the time but you never know. Just a bruised ego, and a few more multiple thousands of dollars leaving my pocket.

[Eric Baker]

I put in a separate clutch reservoir, and today was my first time at the track with it. I got clutch pedal problems. Nothing that gave me any trouble I don't think, but by the end of the track, it was not returning all the way. Clutch system is all stock as of now except for the reservoir. It did it to me once on the street last year, but haven't seen any other problems till today at the track.

[calbert1999]

Originally Posted by Eric Baker

I put in a separate clutch reservoir, and today was my first time at the track with it. I got clutch pedal problems. Nothing that gave me any trouble I don't think, but by the end of the track, it was not returning all the way. Clutch system is all stock as of now except for the reservoir. It did it to me once on the street last year, but haven't seen any other problems till today at the track.

I hadn't seen any problems either in terms of the clutch sticking to the floor, up until about two weeks ago but I had the grinding, gearing (won't shift at higher rpms.) issues since day 1. And, then last week I believe the clutch fried while cruising on the hwy. and that may have cost me an engine build. I'm not impressed and I don't think anyone else is either.
There's even a FB page for the clutch issue.

[stratman2SSRS]

It may seem like a bandaid, but the Lingenfelter return spring is cheap insurance.
I've never had a clutch problem, installed the spring, and don't anticipate a problem.

[pnyklr]

Does the return spring affect the feel of the clutch?

-Funk

[stratman2SSRS]

Originally Posted by pnyklr

Does the return spring affect the feel of the clutch?

-Funk

I cannot feel a difference, it is adding more tension but it is so minimal that I'm used to it now. It does not add an extreme amount of pressure where you will regret adding it.
By the amount of people having clutch issues, it is more likely that you will regret not adding it.
(insert LPE commission request here...)