The RS Package should differ between LT vs SS

[esperman]

GM wants to make money on the Camaro. Why make ANY Camaro Plain Jane? All models look bad ass. Thats a good thing.

[quorum]

Originally Posted by mrray13

Let me put it this way, my car isn't a direct attachment, or projection, of my manhood. I don't care what it costs, if it's different, or if it's an SS or an LT. It's a Camaro, it's mine and I enjoy every minute of it. If that isn't enough, then I have selfesteem issues and I need to get looked at.

honestly, that is a very self-righteous statement. The reason you bought your Camaro instead of a <insert car here> is the same reason why I want my V8 to look different to a V6. It's a simple as that.

So: if you don't care if it's different, why not buy a Camry?

[quorum]

Originally Posted by Skyman 08

What a maroon.....

People that buy V6 cars work just as hard as you and sacrifice just as much...

Calling people names now?

I'm sorry but your statement makes absolutely no sense at all. If you earn $20/hour, you're telling me you work the same amount of hours to buy a LS vs an SS? I think you need to work on your math.

None of us are billionaire heirs so we all have to work harder to get an SS vs an LS. That's just common sense, so can we stop beating the dead horse of self-righteousness and actually talk about the original subject?

[MikeL]

Originally Posted by quorum

1) okay first: analogies are simple illustrations. They become utterly meaningless when you complicate it and extrapolate a different meaning. The point is, we all make choices in life and sacrifice a part of our lives for that choice. A person decides to have a child: there's sacrifice involved.

I'm saying "sacrifice" rather than $$ because people are thinking I just want to shove my $$ in people's face. It's not like that. But I believe that if someone spends his hard earned dollars on something, then he sacrificed a bit of his life for that object. That's simple truth. This thread came about because
a) there seems to be a prevalent thinking that it's okay for a V6 to look like a V8 - which is a thinking that doesn't really work in the rest of the real world
b) I wish GM did a little bit more to differentiate the two cars.

2) As much as I like a custom car, I don't want to do too many conspicuous mods. Probably the only thing I'd do is wheels and a nicer exhaust tip.

That's not the point however. The reason why I am buying a Camaro is because I had an epiphany: it's okay to drive a car that people admire. I'm saying this because most of my friends are family people who drive boring Japanese sedans.

I KNOW that most of you are like me. You all love it when people admire your Camaro. And you sacrificed your life for this car, because you could have gotten a very practical and usable sedan but you took up a space in your garage and paid a little more for a Camaro. You realized that if you can wear a tuxedo to a ball, why can't you drive a nice car for a nice occasion? Why should you drive a boring sedan everywhere you go for every occasion?

So just extend that thinking a little further, and that will apply to V8 vs V6.

I won't buy a Mustang (as good as it is, and as much as I like the styling) because there are so many on the road. I'm thinking that in a few years there might be a whole bunch of Camaros on the road. For those of you who love the Camaro styling - don't you want to have the option of a Camaro that looks different?

When the Z28 eventually comes out, it will probably look hotter than the SS. I'm okay with that, but by the same extension, I wish the SS looked a little hotter than the V6.

Some people also didn't have to sacrifice for their SS. Some people are born into a lot of money, some people worked hard a long time ago and have lots of money now and are just spending it. If you had to sacrifice a lot for this car, then it should mean a lot whether it looks different or not. It looks good to you because you made those sacrifices for it. I'm done in this thread. From here on out im watching!

[HokieERVet]

maybe GM should put those rubber testicles on the back all SS/RS's...then everyone could see instantly that you spent the big $$'s

[CatiaJockey]

Why don't you list for us what you think the differences in appearance should be? You want discussion, quantify your desires!

[quorum]

Originally Posted by esperman

GM wants to make money on the Camaro. Why make ANY Camaro Plain Jane? All models look bad ass. Thats a good thing.

You're right. All Camaros are bad ass and no Camaro should look plain jane. But heck - there's a billion dollar aftermarket parts market to cater to precisely the same kind of rationale that I am admitting I have: there's nothing wrong spending a little more to look a little different. There's nothing wrong with that. You're ALL guilty of that - that's why you bought Camaros instead of Camrys.

For me: I understand myself. I understand why I do the things I do, so I am not afraid to admit the reality of my decisions. I think some of you have not come to terms with the fact that yes you do enjoy driving a car that looks hot and there's nothing wrong with that. I don't think you would think it looks so hot if everyone else thought it looked like crap. We are affected by other people's opinions - that's why we want to dress up nice to a function.

I admit one of the reasons why I am buying the Camaro is because my Wife thinks it's hot, and heck I like to impress her. You tell me if that's shallow.

[EKG]

LOL....dude you are being so dumb right now. It's obvious you just want to show off and wave your money around by saying that you want to show how much harder you worked than some other person who can't afford an SS. Quit crying over it . You sound extremely pathetic right now . It is a car. Life will go on, I promise! It is your fault you didn't research the car more if you wanted something super fancy and way more different than the LT model.

Just be happy that you got an amazing car and quit the complaining...man some people will find anything to whine about....

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by quorum

Calling people names now?

I'm sorry but your statement makes absolutely no sense at all. If you earn $20/hour, you're telling me you work the same amount of hours to buy a LS vs an SS? I think you need to work on your math.

None of us are billionaire heirs so we all have to work harder to get an SS vs an LS. That's just common sense, so can we stop beating the dead horse of self-righteousness and actually talk about the original subject?

I never said that , You ASSUME too much... What I was meaning is some people that buy a V6 may have to work just as much and as hard as someone else that buys an SS... THEY DON"T MAKE AS MUCH MONEY AS SOMEONE ELSE. and may have harder jiobs. say the worker out there doing manual labor to make 20 dollars an hour(mechanic) has to work much harder than an office worker making 30 dollars an hour (engineer). I know because I have done both jobs.

[quorum]

Originally Posted by CatiaJockey

Why don't you list for us what you think the differences in appearance should be? You want discussion, quantify your desires!

Thank-you for that segue.

here is my simple, inexpensive suggestions for GM:

1) different ground effects for the rear
2) 19" wheels for the LT/RS package
3) no halos with the LT/RS HIDs (or different design).

In other words - just simple differences all around the car.

I'm aware that with the aftermarket - you can make your car look like anything you want, and that's okay by me. I just think that the stock mods should be different because that's what you're going to see the most of on the streets.

GM is never going to go by my suggestion, so this topic is purely academic. I'm just ranting.

I lost a ton of money doing aftermarket mods on a car when I sold it, because few people want to pay for aftermarket mods. That's why I'm hesitant to make the same mistake again with my Camaro. The LS is the "base car" so every dollar you spend more than the base car IS a mod, and therefore there should be some visible benefit to the mod. I want the car to look progressively hotter for every $ I spend. Every aftermarket mod is an aesthetic improvement, whether it be sound, looks or feeling.

My bemoan is that the LT/RS looks virtually the same as the SS/RSS except for one thing: the bumper. Just like those of you who bought the RS package for your LT want your car to look hotter than an LS, I also want my SS/RS to look hotter than a LT/RS - so I'm using the same logic.

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by quorum

I admit one of the reasons why I am buying the Camaro is because my Wife thinks it's hot, and heck I like to impress her. You tell me if that's shallow.

Yes it is very Shallow, Buying something to impress someone else is the most shallow thing you can do. buy it because it is what you want, not to show someone else what you can get....

[quorum]

Originally Posted by Skyman 08

I never said that , You ASSUME too much... What I was meaning is some people that buy a V6 may have to work just as much and as hard as someone else that buys an SS... THEY DON"T MAKE AS MUCH MONEY AS SOMEONE ELSE. and may have harder jiobs. say the worker out there doing manual labor to make 20 dollars an hour(mechanic) has to work much harder than an office worker making 30 dollars an hour (engineer). I know because I have done both jobs.

still doesn't make sense. Regardless of who you are, if you work to get your money, then you work harder to get an SS vs an LS. Anything more that you want to extrapolate is a judgment on my character. We're not talking about a Ferrari here - I would not shove that in anybody's face. If you can afford an LS, then you can afford an SS - either by working longer and saving more, or by buying second hand. We are all the same here, so the self-righteous condemnation in this thread is misplaced.

[NoUCantDriveIt]

I think I get it?.. you want the SS to be more special, more unique from the other models. That people can see your car has goodies that aren't an option for the LT (assuming of course that anyone that doesn't have a Camaro would know the differance).

Uhhhhh.... OK. What I can't seem to get past, is why do you care what a car (that you didn't buy) should or shouldn't have on it?

[quorum]

Originally Posted by Skyman 08

Yes it is very Shallow, Buying something to impress someone else is the most shallow thing you can do. buy it because it is what you want, not to show someone else what you can get....

you seriously think I don't want it? You seriously believe that all our choices in life are one-dimensional? You really are hell-bent on your self-righteous crusade aren't you?

So what do you wear to a job interview?

What do you wear on a date?

I could go all day with this. I am right because the fact of the matter is: we all do something to impress someone. Stop being so self-righteous about it.

Once we admit things for what they are, then we can have rational discussions. Right now it's ridiculous.