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Legend · 08-08-2010, 12:35 AM

Interesting responses...

I'll repost a couple things already said:

Why pay $1K more for 26 less HP
Did you see the speeds of each gear on page 1? If so...can't see how you are hitting the rev limit on the streets!
If you tune out AFM and add mods...know your warranty is gone
Tap shifting is not "manually" shifting the car!

The best one...are you a driver or passenger?

mikeSS · 08-08-2010, 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legend

Interesting responses...

I'll repost a couple things already said:

Why pay $1K more for 26 less HP
Did you see the speeds of each gear on page 1? If so...can't see how you are hitting the rev limit on the streets!
If you tune out AFM and add mods...know your warranty is gone
Tap shifting is not "manually" shifting the car!

The best one...are you a driver or passenger?

the manual is a 1k LESS then the auto...

SS Drifter · 08-08-2010, 12:53 AM

This is turning into another one of those runaway treads. :fighting0040:

Anyway my A6 is no slouch but it took some mods (headers, cai and tune) to get there. I think the M6 is probably the better car if you want to keep it stock.

Legend · 08-08-2010, 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeSS

the manual is a 1k LESS then the auto...

That's what I said...why pay $1K more for 26 less HP?

The manual costs less and has more HP...maybe I dont' understand the question here?

rocketman · 08-08-2010, 01:47 AM

Not gonna lie, there are times I regret not getting the manual. The AFM, the torque management (which to be fair they found a way to put in the manual cars too), the drone, etc. that come with the auto suck. I take solice in the fact that I was always gona mod and void the warranty anyway so a thousand bucks more (which I didn't wind up paying anyway) did get me 26 hp less but it also got me VVT and a broader torque curve and the greater potential for future power then the LS3. autos are more consistant, and durable for drag racing which is why racers even back in the "old days" would predominantly use them. I just dont like the idea that with a manual you have to choose between double clutching and being slower so your tranny survives or power shifting and being fast and putting "thousands of miles" on the internals every time you go down the strip.

mikeSS · 08-08-2010, 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legend

That's what I said...why pay $1K more for 26 less HP?

The manual costs less and has more HP...maybe I dont' understand the question here?

o my bad i read it fast

StlRomAniaN · 08-08-2010, 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legend

That's what I said...why pay $1K more for 26 less HP?

The manual costs less and has more HP...maybe I dont' understand the question here?

Because the L99 makes more power under the curve. The LS3 just peaks higher after ~5700 rpm.

Scrappy Doo · 08-08-2010, 07:11 AM

This thread is like the audition page for the next PQ video........

mhood · 08-08-2010, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpizzle007

OP needs to be slapped for even starting another BS thread like this. And shame on you all for contributing. We are all dumber now for this.

Why don't you hit him with your European Shoulder Bag?

jagan323 · 08-08-2010, 12:53 PM

If you were getting a V6, I would say go ahead on the Automatic. Fastest times for the V6 on the 1/4mile track have been won by automatics.

But if you are getting a V8, do NOT get the automatic. You are getting a L99 Engine, where as the manual offers a LS3. LS3 is more powerful. If I could own both V8 and V6, i'd get a V8 Manual and a V6 auto.

V8 for sporty, and speed... V6 for Daily driver, cruising

BaylorCamaro · 08-08-2010, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scrappy Doo

This thread is like the audition page for the next PQ video........

There's already been one!?

Caspers2SSRS · 08-08-2010, 02:48 PM

http://http://www.edmunds.com/flippe...rstNav=Gallery

StlRomAniaN · 08-08-2010, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jagan323

If you were getting a V6, I would say go ahead on the Automatic. Fastest times for the V6 on the 1/4mile track have been won by automatics.

But if you are getting a V8, do NOT get the automatic. You are getting a L99 Engine, where as the manual offers a LS3. LS3 is more powerful. If I could own both V8 and V6, i'd get a V8 Manual and a V6 auto.

V8 for sporty, and speed... V6 for Daily driver, cruising

The L99 is more powerful under the curve than the LS3. No one reads my posts apparently...

blufin · 08-08-2010, 03:33 PM

I've got the M6 and love it. No problems with the fuel cutoff if you pay attention and know when to shift. My previous car was a Trailblazer SS and I hated it being automatic. I like being able to choose the right gear for the right situation, not letting the computer blindly decide. It comes down to how involved you want to be in the driving experience.

08-08-2010, 12:53 PM	#52
jagan323 I have no life Drives: 06' Subaru STI, ex-Camaro V6 LLT Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Top Gear Test Track Posts: 3,189	If you were getting a V6, I would say go ahead on the Automatic. Fastest times for the V6 on the 1/4mile track have been won by automatics. But if you are getting a V8, do NOT get the automatic. You are getting a L99 Engine, where as the manual offers a LS3. LS3 is more powerful. If I could own both V8 and V6, i'd get a V8 Manual and a V6 auto. V8 for sporty, and speed... V6 for Daily driver, cruising __________________ List of Camaro DIY The Blog

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08-08-2010, 03:33 PM	#56
blufin Drives: Fire Engine Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: WPB, Florida Posts: 1,415	I've got the M6 and love it. No problems with the fuel cutoff if you pay attention and know when to shift. My previous car was a Trailblazer SS and I hated it being automatic. I like being able to choose the right gear for the right situation, not letting the computer blindly decide. It comes down to how involved you want to be in the driving experience. __________________ 12.618 @ 110.75 Bone Stock 1/4 mile 8.165 @ 86.52 Bone Stock 1/8 mile 11.189 @ 124.44 on a 1.73 60' TVS2300 3.4 pulley, JRE tuned, Kooks LT headers and HF cats, MBRP catback exhaust, CAI intake, ADM scoop. Stock wheels/tires. Sold

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08-08-2010, 12:35 AM	#43
Legend Hello! Drives: 2008 JSB Z06! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 2,624 View My Garage	Interesting responses... I'll repost a couple things already said: Why pay $1K more for 26 less HP Did you see the speeds of each gear on page 1? If so...can't see how you are hitting the rev limit on the streets! If you tune out AFM and add mods...know your warranty is gone Tap shifting is not "manually" shifting the car! The best one...are you a driver or passenger?

08-08-2010, 12:53 AM	#45
SS Drifter Drives: 2010 2SS/RS L99 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: California Posts: 588	This is turning into another one of those runaway treads. :fighting0040: Anyway my A6 is no slouch but it took some mods (headers, cai and tune) to get there. I think the M6 is probably the better car if you want to keep it stock.

08-08-2010, 01:47 AM	#47
rocketman Drives: Black 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: May 2010 Location: Philly, D.C. areas Posts: 28	Not gonna lie, there are times I regret not getting the manual. The AFM, the torque management (which to be fair they found a way to put in the manual cars too), the drone, etc. that come with the auto suck. I take solice in the fact that I was always gona mod and void the warranty anyway so a thousand bucks more (which I didn't wind up paying anyway) did get me 26 hp less but it also got me VVT and a broader torque curve and the greater potential for future power then the LS3. autos are more consistant, and durable for drag racing which is why racers even back in the "old days" would predominantly use them. I just dont like the idea that with a manual you have to choose between double clutching and being slower so your tranny survives or power shifting and being fast and putting "thousands of miles" on the internals every time you go down the strip.

08-08-2010, 07:11 AM	#50
Scrappy Doo Drives: Callaway Rogue Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: W8n 4 Snow, Minnesota Posts: 4,731	This thread is like the audition page for the next PQ video........