The Camaro is causing Ford to lay off workers at the Mustang plant - Page 5 - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Ravirn · 02-17-2010, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Blakout

Add one more tally to the "man it sucks for the 900 workers being laid off." We're all Americans no matter what big 3 factory we come from.

North Americans, YEP!

derklug · 02-17-2010, 01:47 AM

Ok, let's say 200,000 people want to buy a 30-35k sports car, when there was no Camaro, Ford split the pie with VW, Audi, Subaru, Toyota and Honda. When the Camaro came out, Ford had to split it's market with GM, minus the few foriegn buyers GM picked up. Add to that the fact that informed Mustang owners were holding out for the 2011 V-6 or V-8, and you get a slow down. Would I have bought a 2010 if there was no new engine in the works? Yep. Will I wait till 2012 for the new engine and the bugs to get worked out? Yep. Plus it gives the aftermarket a year to come up with mods. Will it hurt Mustang's sales? Yep, and I really do feel sorry to those that are laid off, but I am not the government, I can't buy a 2010,11, and 12 just to make people happy. It would make the wife get "difficult".

Ravirn · 02-17-2010, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by derklug

It would make the wife get "difficult".

That, my friend, is an understatement of EPIC proportions!

THE EVIL TW1N · 02-17-2010, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by 5thGenOwner

Yep, makes me

even!

Had a friend at work today tell me he bought his wife a car for V-day... and I moaned inside when he said Toyota. I understand where he is comming from, but more than ever I feel it is our part as Americans to support the good ol' US of A!

:flag1:

says the guy driving the imported camaro

shawn18 · 02-17-2010, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by THE EVIL TW1N

says the guy driving the imported camaro

why thank you for pointing that out

SleepWarz · 02-17-2010, 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by THE EVIL TW1N

says the guy driving the imported camaro

DkknightX · 02-17-2010, 03:50 AM

You guys are all leaving out the fact that the Camaro hasn't sold since 2002 and Ford enjoyed great success selling the Mustang until 2009. Ford got complacent and now in the face of real competition again, they failed to plan accordingly. Laying off 900 workers is not the answer but what do I know?

nyycamarogirl · 02-17-2010, 07:08 AM

Go maro...... but sad people are losing their jobs. Hopefully it picks back up with the '11 stangs....... but I still think the camaro will outsell.....

5thGenOwner · 02-17-2010, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by THE EVIL TW1N

says the guy driving the imported camaro

Says the guy who just wants to make a smart remark.

You know my point. You could buy a Toyota or Honda, and it could be "BUILT" in the US, but the profits are going back to the country from which it came.

As for the Camaro... it has and always will stand for everything USA! I admit I would have preferred it built within the US borders, as GM seems to be able to do with other models (growing fewer). But it really doesn't get any closer than Oshawa. And from those I've seen on this board... good people built my Camaro!

2001ragtop · 02-17-2010, 11:30 AM

I really hope the new V8 changes the image of Mustang vehicle line. The car looks very conservative right now in comparison to its rivals. It is very possible the new engine is not going to change anything between the ratio of Camaro to Mustang sales. these two cars have become night and day. perhaps they always were.

Dack · 02-17-2010, 11:44 AM

Just because the car is built in Oshawa doesn't mean that American companies didn't profit from the making of it. Have you seen the diagram specifying which company made what part? There is a lot of American companies that build parts for this car.

Rogue Leader · 02-17-2010, 12:51 PM

If you read the article while they were laid off from the Mustang plant, Ford has opened 1200 Jobs at the Explorer Plant and will be opening 1000 at a battery plant and all these laid off workers get first crack at them. It may be a little longer commute, but these people are not out of work.

2ndgenz28 · 02-17-2010, 12:58 PM

Its cause the Mustang is old news, they came out well before the 5th gen was even started and that's what happens.

The Camaro is the new news, and has the attention of all.

boo hoo for furd

BEARS-SS · 02-17-2010, 01:05 PM

What I don't understand is why the new mustang hasn't gone through any evolution since release. When you know the Challenger is going to come out (and beat ya) just before the Camaro comes out (and beat ya more)...why not produce a better car? Ford seems to be sitting back on its heels, trying to ride the success of an amazing release. But, as Peter, Paul, and Mary said "these times, they are a-changin'", time for the mustang to change too...

02-17-2010, 01:47 AM	#58
derklug Drives: 12 Boss 302 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Grand Rapids, Mi Posts: 1,369	Ok, let's say 200,000 people want to buy a 30-35k sports car, when there was no Camaro, Ford split the pie with VW, Audi, Subaru, Toyota and Honda. When the Camaro came out, Ford had to split it's market with GM, minus the few foriegn buyers GM picked up. Add to that the fact that informed Mustang owners were holding out for the 2011 V-6 or V-8, and you get a slow down. Would I have bought a 2010 if there was no new engine in the works? Yep. Will I wait till 2012 for the new engine and the bugs to get worked out? Yep. Plus it gives the aftermarket a year to come up with mods. Will it hurt Mustang's sales? Yep, and I really do feel sorry to those that are laid off, but I am not the government, I can't buy a 2010,11, and 12 just to make people happy. It would make the wife get "difficult". __________________ The biggest mistakes in life come when you know exactly what you are doing.

02-17-2010, 12:51 PM	#68
Rogue Leader Iatefiberglassinsulation Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS M6 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Long Island Posts: 3,601 View My Garage	If you read the article while they were laid off from the Mustang plant, Ford has opened 1200 Jobs at the Explorer Plant and will be opening 1000 at a battery plant and all these laid off workers get first crack at them. It may be a little longer commute, but these people are not out of work. __________________ 2010 Chevrolet Camaro SS - was daily driver, now toy 2020 Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio - Daily Driver 2017 Mercedes Benz GLE 350 - Wifes Car 2008 Chevy Silverado 2500 HD LT 6.0 - Tow Vehicle 1991 Alfa Romeo 164S - Project Car 1994 Volkswagen Golf - Race Car "Like" my race team on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/farfrumwinnin

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