What are the first things you do to your vehicle?

[TLSTWIN]

Originally Posted by zebra

true, but a performance filter (in most cases, especially if it's an open filter instead of a box) is going to have a higher CFM than the stock one, so you'll get a little extra performance. i think it's worth it.

exactly, it isn't as much a maintenance saving issue as it is a performance increase with perks.

[VictoryRed08]

Originally Posted by Rogue Leader

I love when people mention the benefit of never having to replace the filter... But lets see a new paper filter is like 7 bucks usually. However the average K&N is $70 and the cleaning kit is $15. You should replace your air filter what every 15k miles? So thats replacing the filter 7 times over 100k miles. $49 total.... Vs $85 for the K&N...

Sounds like savings to me!!

Or is it? How much are you saving per fill up? lets say at the very least, $1, u fill up once every 500km or so, 100,000km, thats a savings of $200 (and thats an understatement).

[Camaro_Corvette]

Originally Posted by mfr1950

first thing I do is read the owners manual....

First welcome, Not too many people from Indy here.
Second, the MANUAL! Are you serious, you better be joking.

Originally Posted by zebra

oh... i thought that was a given!

I second that.

Originally Posted by camaro1

1. install new engine and stall converter, headers, exhaust

2. dyno tune with hp tuners

3. get stripe package installed

4. rims and slicks for the rear and drive to the track in april/may and see what it runs

What the heck are you installing...LS9.

[theholycow]

Originally Posted by zebra

true, but a performance filter (in most cases, especially if it's an open filter instead of a box) is going to have a higher CFM than the stock one, so you'll get a little extra performance. i think it's worth it.

Originally Posted by TLSTWIN

exactly, it isn't as much a maintenance saving issue as it is a performance increase with perks.

Ok, but that's not what he was talking about. Re-read what he wrote:

Originally Posted by Rogue Leader

I love when people mention the benefit of never having to replace the filter... [...] So thats replacing the filter 7 times over 100k miles. $49 total.... Vs $85 for the K&N...

As for performance, if you think GM's engineers are so crappy that they can't figure enough flow for the engine they put in the car...well, WTF? It's not a grocery getter/econobox/luxury car, it's not going to have those kind of design compromises. Now, OTOH, if you've done other mods that might cause more WOT@redline power then I could see needing to upgrade the intake and exhaust.

im going to put 2 hot chicks on the hood ,and bang them till the stripes come off

[TLSTWIN]

Originally Posted by theholycow

Ok, but that's not what he was talking about. Re-read what he wrote:



As for performance, if you think GM's engineers are so crappy that they can't figure enough flow for the engine they put in the car...well, WTF? It's not a grocery getter/econobox/luxury car, it's not going to have those kind of design compromises. Now, OTOH, if you've done other mods that might cause more WOT@redline power then I could see needing to upgrade the intake and exhaust.

I'm confused I thought rouge was being sarcastic about it being cheaper..

Reread who's post?

[theholycow]

Originally Posted by TLSTWIN

I'm confused I thought rouge was being sarcastic about it being cheaper..

Reread who's post?

He was being sarcastic, that was my point. I'll edit my post with a better quote.

He pointed out how people often cite cost savings as a major reason, but that it doesn't add up. That was followed by two people pointing out that it does more than the alleged cost savings. I pointed out that he wasn't talking about what else it does, he was talking about how people often cite cost savings.

[TLSTWIN]

Rouge L is saying in the post it isn't worth using a K&N because it isn't cost effect. That is why he is stating the cost between the two.

I believe zebra, victory red, and I are saying there is more involved that JUST the cost of the filters. He is responding to people saying they don't have to replace there filter anymore, that is just a perk to the other added benefits to why they are purchased.

[99b4c]

The first thing will be tinting the windows, the second will be to get rid of the factory airbox for a cold air kit.

[TLSTWIN]

Originally Posted by theholycow

He was being sarcastic, that was my point. I'll edit my post with a better quote.

He pointed out how people often cite cost savings as a major reason, but that it doesn't add up. That was followed by two people pointing out that it does more than the alleged cost savings. I pointed out that he wasn't talking about what else it does, he was talking about how people often cite cost savings.

This is funny

I think we are saying the same thing.....I am done posting about it...

[Camaro_Corvette]

Originally Posted by mrpre10der

im going to put 2 hot chicks on the hood ,and bang them till the stripes come off

Good for you, thanks for sharing...

[live2well]

First thing I will do to my car is clay bar it and throw some good ole polish on it. I got to get that rail dust off of the paint.

[zebra]

Originally Posted by mrpre10der

im going to put 2 hot chicks on the hood ,and bang them till the stripes come off

and what do they think about that idea? sounds rather uncomfortable

[theholycow]

Originally Posted by zebra

and what do they think about that idea? sounds rather uncomfortable

Someone named "zebra" would think that stripe removal sounds uncomfortable...