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American Muscle · 05-11-2010, 11:44 AM

great thread and thanks to those posting answers for us who are still learning, my questions is what is the difference in exhaust types. For example what is a difference between an axle back or a cat back. I hear these names being associated with exhaust systems but sadly have no idea what they mean. Thanks.

Darth_Emma · 05-11-2010, 11:50 AM

Oh I know this one! I am having headers and a cat back exhaust installed today, so I recently did some homework on this. I do NOT claim to be an expert.

A cat back runs from the catalytic converters back to the tips. It's a full exhuast system. It replaces the whole exhaust from the manifold back to the tips (or from the headers back to the tips). It replaces the resonators, mufflers, the whole exhaust.

An axle back is from the rear axle back to the tips. It is only a partial replacement of the exhaust. An axle back replaces basically the back section with the mufflers. You keep your stock cats and resonators in this case.

How'd I do?

American Muscle · 05-11-2010, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth_Emma

Oh I know this one! I am having headers and a cat back exhaust installed today, so I recently did some homework on this. I do NOT claim to be an expert.

A cat back runs from the catalytic converters back to the tips. It's a full exhuast system. It replaces the whole exhaust from the manifold back to the tips (or from the headers back to the tips). It replaces the resonators, mufflers, the whole exhaust.

An axle back is from the rear axle back to the tips. It is only a partial replacement of the exhaust. An axle back replaces basically the back section with the mufflers. You keep your stock cats and resonators in this case.

How'd I do?

you did great

thanks for your help, that makes sense now lol

Darth_Emma · 05-11-2010, 11:54 AM

I fit right in with the dummies thread! And I'm proud of it!

It's nice to have a thread where I don't have to be ashamed to ask noobie questions.

Thanks for starting this.

Michael_Js · 05-11-2010, 12:02 PM

We all can learn!

Thanks for sharing peoples!

DSteck · 05-11-2010, 12:03 PM

If you want to see performance gains from exhaust, bite the bullet and put headers on the car. New mufflers and x-pipes aren't going to do anywhere near as much as headers will, although headers also raise the price point. If you only want some more noise, then axle-back/cat-back exhaust might be a good decision.

Dr Jkel · 05-11-2010, 12:07 PM

I think it has to do with attach points and sound but I am no expert on this. I put axle back ( street version) on mine and the dealer installed in about an hour

Dr Jkel · 05-11-2010, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth_Emma

I fit right in with the dummies thread! And I'm proud of it!

It's nice to have a thread where I don't have to be ashamed to ask noobie questions.

Thanks for starting this.

This is why I started this thread because I had NO clue at all, and I am Thankful for the responses. There are alot of EXPERTS but like you I am a NOOB. Took the title from a couple of books I have, Microsoft for dummies etc... so why not Modding for dummies. LOL

Dr Jkel · 05-11-2010, 01:00 PM

Kinda of an odd question about modifying.

When you mod your car what does it do to the value of it. I know an original is probably worth alot more 30 years from now, but does it really matter. I have done cosmetic mods so far with the exception of the axle back. Just was wondering.

MODS SO FAR

Painted on stripes.
Wet sanded and re-cleared entire car. NO more orange peel.
Axle back street exhaust.
Heritage grille-painted with old school SS.
Rear Bowtie delete-SS installed
Splash guards.

DSteck · 05-11-2010, 01:05 PM

Mods won't neccessarily depreciate a car, but they rarely increase the value of it at the same time. Sometimes a unique setup will sell for a good chunk of change to the right buyer, but basic bolt-ons don't do anything for the value of the car.

rd-camaro · 05-12-2010, 09:55 AM

ok first off this thread is awesome. i have been reading everthing and learned a lot. now i have a question...
what if i just buy this (V6 version w/ cats)

http://www.americanracingheaders.com...oSS+V8_V6.html

and call it a day? when i add this do i need to perform any kind of tune? when it says 'short system' it means short tube headers right? will headers void warranty?

Darth_Emma · 05-12-2010, 10:57 AM

My understanding is that short tube headers give you little to no HP gain, so why bother?

rd-camaro · 05-12-2010, 11:11 AM

i understand that part of short headers lol. i was just wondering if the link i posted has only the short headers for the v6...just want to confirm this so i can keep looking if they are indeed only short headers...

DSteck · 05-12-2010, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth_Emma

My understanding is that short tube headers give you little to no HP gain, so why bother?

Noise.

05-11-2010, 11:44 AM	#99
American Muscle Drives: #26 Tom Henry Racing 2010 1SS/LS3 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New York, New York Posts: 278	great thread and thanks to those posting answers for us who are still learning, my questions is what is the difference in exhaust types. For example what is a difference between an axle back or a cat back. I hear these names being associated with exhaust systems but sadly have no idea what they mean. Thanks. __________________ every man dies, not every man really lives

05-11-2010, 12:02 PM	#103
Michael_Js SoCal C5 Family Member Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS - Black w/IOM; 6M Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: San Diego, CA, USA Posts: 5,298 View My Garage	We all can learn! Thanks for sharing peoples! __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 2010 Black 2SS/RS; 6M; IOM, GFX, sunroof; ADM Race CAI; Zoomers CB; Viper Alarm; Pdaft F&R sways, Adj Endlinks, Rtrailing arms, Camber kit, strut brace, Front Trailing Arm Bushing; SLP Skip-Shift Elim; Tinted lights/windows; Hurst Short-throw; LoJack; Door & Dash ABL Mods; ********; JBA Shorty headers; AACStyle LEDs; Stillen DS rotors, Hawk Ceramic pads; Havoc Blk Chrome wheels: 20x9s; Lingenfelter Blk Al Pedals; RevXtreme Catch Can; Goodridge SS lines; Ported TB; RK Sport hood; Hotchkis chassis brace; KW V3 coilovers;

05-11-2010, 12:07 PM	#105
Dr Jkel Roll Tide Drives: 2010 2SS RJT/BLK 6Spd Man Join Date: May 2009 Location: Talladega, Alabama Posts: 4,378	I think it has to do with attach points and sound but I am no expert on this. I put axle back ( street version) on mine and the dealer installed in about an hour __________________ MUSTANG...Like Bringing a Hot Dog to a Steak Dinner....There is no comparison.

05-11-2010, 01:00 PM	#107
Dr Jkel Roll Tide Drives: 2010 2SS RJT/BLK 6Spd Man Join Date: May 2009 Location: Talladega, Alabama Posts: 4,378	Kinda of an odd question about modifying. When you mod your car what does it do to the value of it. I know an original is probably worth alot more 30 years from now, but does it really matter. I have done cosmetic mods so far with the exception of the axle back. Just was wondering. MODS SO FAR Painted on stripes. Wet sanded and re-cleared entire car. NO more orange peel. Axle back street exhaust. Heritage grille-painted with old school SS. Rear Bowtie delete-SS installed Splash guards. __________________ MUSTANG...Like Bringing a Hot Dog to a Steak Dinner....There is no comparison.

05-12-2010, 09:55 AM	#109
rd-camaro Drives: 2010 2LT Blk IOM stripes IO leather Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 568	ok first off this thread is awesome. i have been reading everthing and learned a lot. now i have a question... what if i just buy this (V6 version w/ cats) http://www.americanracingheaders.com...oSS+V8_V6.html and call it a day? when i add this do i need to perform any kind of tune? when it says 'short system' it means short tube headers right? will headers void warranty? Last edited by rd-camaro; 05-12-2010 at 10:09 AM.

05-11-2010, 11:50 AM	#100
Darth_Emma Psssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhh! Drives: under contruction Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Marysville, Ohio Posts: 12,996 View My Garage	Oh I know this one! I am having headers and a cat back exhaust installed today, so I recently did some homework on this. I do NOT claim to be an expert. A cat back runs from the catalytic converters back to the tips. It's a full exhuast system. It replaces the whole exhaust from the manifold back to the tips (or from the headers back to the tips). It replaces the resonators, mufflers, the whole exhaust. An axle back is from the rear axle back to the tips. It is only a partial replacement of the exhaust. An axle back replaces basically the back section with the mufflers. You keep your stock cats and resonators in this case. How'd I do?

05-11-2010, 11:54 AM	#102
Darth_Emma Psssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhh! Drives: under contruction Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Marysville, Ohio Posts: 12,996 View My Garage	I fit right in with the dummies thread! And I'm proud of it! It's nice to have a thread where I don't have to be ashamed to ask noobie questions. Thanks for starting this.

05-11-2010, 12:03 PM	#104
DSteck Account Suspended Drives: 2006 Corvette Z06 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 587	If you want to see performance gains from exhaust, bite the bullet and put headers on the car. New mufflers and x-pipes aren't going to do anywhere near as much as headers will, although headers also raise the price point. If you only want some more noise, then axle-back/cat-back exhaust might be a good decision.

05-11-2010, 01:05 PM	#108
DSteck Account Suspended Drives: 2006 Corvette Z06 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 587	Mods won't neccessarily depreciate a car, but they rarely increase the value of it at the same time. Sometimes a unique setup will sell for a good chunk of change to the right buyer, but basic bolt-ons don't do anything for the value of the car.

05-12-2010, 10:57 AM	#110
Darth_Emma Psssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhh! Drives: under contruction Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Marysville, Ohio Posts: 12,996 View My Garage	My understanding is that short tube headers give you little to no HP gain, so why bother?

05-12-2010, 11:11 AM	#111
rd-camaro Drives: 2010 2LT Blk IOM stripes IO leather Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 568	i understand that part of short headers lol. i was just wondering if the link i posted has only the short headers for the v6...just want to confirm this so i can keep looking if they are indeed only short headers...

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