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Old 10-29-2009, 12:13 PM   #113
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You would have a good chance.



Wow! Five seconds?? You must have upgraded the intake and exhaust, right?
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Old 10-29-2009, 12:20 PM   #114
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Definition of a Muscle Car:

"Muscle car is a term used to refer to a variety of high performance automobiles. At its most widely accepted the term refers to American 2-door rear wheel drive mid-size cars of the late 1960s and early 1970s equipped with large, powerful V8s and sold at an affordable price for street use and drag racing, formally and informally.

As such, they are distinct from two-seat sports cars and expensive 2+2 GTs intended for high-speed touring and road racing.
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Old 10-29-2009, 12:28 PM   #115
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Wow! Five seconds?? You must have upgraded the intake and exhaust, right?
Yes, a GMPP axle back and Airaid intake. This is my first experience using a Matrix accelerometer so I'm not sure how accurate these things are.

First two runs showed 5.8 & 5.7 on a wet road with some tire spin. Same day different dry level road showed 4.98 at 43 degrees. As the temp goes up so do the times. At 70 degrees, best time was 5.44.
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Old 10-29-2009, 12:41 PM   #116
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Definition of a Muscle Car:

"Muscle car is a term used to refer to a variety of high performance automobiles. At its most widely accepted the term refers to American 2-door rear wheel drive mid-size cars of the late 1960s and early 1970s equipped with large, powerful V8s and sold at an affordable price for street use and drag racing, formally and informally.

As such, they are distinct from two-seat sports cars and expensive 2+2 GTs intended for high-speed touring and road racing.
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Oh, well, I guess no 2010 can be a muscle car then, since it isn't from the 60s-70s.
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Old 10-29-2009, 12:49 PM   #117
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Oh, well, I guess no 2010 can be a muscle car then, since it isn't from the 60s-70s.
I guess that is true if you are stuck back in the '60s and '70s.

Which I am not. I grew up "back in the day." Saw the rise and fall of performance and the long recovery process when technology caught up.

I would consider many of today's performance cars equally as much a "Muscle Car" as any of those from way back then.

If you don't accept that, it is your choice. I just happen to not accept the premiss that today's cars aren't considered "Muscle Cars" because they aren't as tempermental or bare-bones as back then.

What Muscle Car from way back then could equal the overall performance we have now?

I have been able to get all the horsepower I need, decent fuel economy (up to 25.6 verified MPG on the highway for some trips) and the safety we have built in now.

Regardless of whether it is a Ford, Chevy, Pontiac, Dodge or Chrysler.

Honestly, I love 'em all. New or old.
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Old 10-29-2009, 12:55 PM   #118
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Actually, my 98 Corvette was only rated at 345HP, so I would say early 2000's.
345HP is a lot of power compared to the 70' and 80's. Even now, that number is very very respectable. Like I said, tech advancement. It didn't stop in the 90's when cars started to come up in HP again. Of course, it is much better now.
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Old 10-29-2009, 01:03 PM   #119
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In your view than the turbocharged V6 Buick Grand Nationals and GNX's of the late 80's are not muscle cars?????? I'm sure there are a lot of people who would disagree with you. They were known to blow the doors off a lot of so called muscle cars.


I loved those cars! But had the tendency to detonate. Fast cars back in those days for sure but we are talking 80's when a Iroc Z with the 5.7 Corvette engine made 245hp (?).
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Old 10-29-2009, 01:04 PM   #120
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Oh, well, I guess no 2010 can be a muscle car then, since it isn't from the 60s-70s.
'muscle car' also refers to a mid-size car. Today's Malibu is a mid-size car.

'Pony car' works even in 2010.
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Old 10-29-2009, 01:05 PM   #121
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I think threads like this get started because someone with a V6 can't stay away from reading SS threads. (teasing)
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Old 10-29-2009, 01:10 PM   #122
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Seriously, I keep seeing snide comments across the forums like, "Why buy a V6 muscle car?" It really annoys me because the V6 in the Camaro is so powerful. Some people don't plan on racing or showing off how loud their engine is - I personally just want a kicka** car to drive, I love the Camaro, and the 2LT is what I can afford. Not only in base price, but slightly less for insurance and a crapton less for gas (won't need premium and the MPG is better). With the 2LT, my loan will only be 4 years (putting half down), and I'm 23 years old. I don't want to be in a crapton of debt so early in my life, and I think a 2LT/RS Camaro is a pretty kick** car for a 23 year old (or heck, for any age). I have the rest of my life to buy a V8 if I want one.

Anyone else tired of the V6 hate? :/
Um...because it's missing two cylinders... duh
j/k it's all about what you like and can afford. You are ina situation that if you desire more power you can just install some forced induction and be smoking fools. Don't sweat it!
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Old 10-29-2009, 01:41 PM   #123
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I guess that is true if you are stuck back in the '60s and '70s.

Which I am not. I grew up "back in the day." Saw the rise and fall of performance and the long recovery process when technology caught up.

I would consider many of today's performance cars equally as much a "Muscle Car" as any of those from way back then.

If you don't accept that, it is your choice. I just happen to not accept the premiss that today's cars aren't considered "Muscle Cars" because they aren't as tempermental or bare-bones as back then.

What Muscle Car from way back then could equal the overall performance we have now?

I have been able to get all the horsepower I need, decent fuel economy (up to 25.6 verified MPG on the highway for some trips) and the safety we have built in now.

Regardless of whether it is a Ford, Chevy, Pontiac, Dodge or Chrysler.

Honestly, I love 'em all. New or old.
I was, of course, kidding. And ultimately, I don't care what label you put on them - this car is freakin' awesome.

How about "freakin' awesome?" Can freakin' awesome be a label?
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Old 10-29-2009, 01:50 PM   #124
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I was, of course, kidding. And ultimately, I don't care what label you put on them - this car is freakin' awesome.

How about "freakin' awesome?" Can freakin' awesome be a label?
I know you were. I was kind of venting my frustration overr the same old song about the "Good Old Days!" Some of those good old days weren't all that great.

Freakin' awesome works for me!!!!
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Old 10-29-2009, 02:01 PM   #125
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I know you were. I was kind of venting my frustration overr the same old song about the "Good Old Days!" Some of those good old days weren't all that great.

Freakin' awesome works for me!!!!

Especially when you think about JFK, Riots, Nam, Kent State ..... Very depressing times and this country hasn't been the same since ....
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Old 10-29-2009, 02:17 PM   #126
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My depression came from trying to get those beasts running right. They were oh so tempermental..

Not to mention my 1969 Cubs!!! But that's a whole different story!

Geez, Hemis came with a note saying that there was no warranty on the car's engines. Wonder why????
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