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Junkman2008 · 11-13-2010, 03:49 PM

Hey boys and girls, I had the opportunity to go at another keyed paint job this week. As a lot of you already know, fixing paint is a passion for me and not something I do for money. So when the owner asked me what I wanted in return, I told him nothing but some pictures and food. He decided that was not good enough and bought me this setup:

It's the Samsung HT-BD1250 Blu-ray DVD player and 5.1 HD audio with wireless speaker setup. I have to say that this beats Outback Steakhouse since I didn't have anything to go with my new 46" LED wide screen I just bought. I also needed a Blu-ray player as I hadn't bought one yet!

On to the repair. This scratch was too deep in places to totally remove but in situations like this, you try and make the damage as least noticeable as possible. At first glance, you would not be able to see the fixed product. That's what you want to achieve with damage like this. Here's the damage and it was not pretty. The scratch went from the front fender to almost the rear quarter.

As you can see, this puppy was deep. I was going to have to start with 2000 grit paper for this scratch. This posed two problems. One, I cannot use the PC-7424XP to repair 2000 grit wet sanding damage (it is not powerful enough and would take forever). I would need to use my Flex 3401VRG polisher in this case. Two, this is a new Toyota, which is notorious for having some of the thinnest clear coat on the planet (the same with Nissan's). In a situation like this, you have got to use a paint thickness gauge that measures both base coat AND clear coat. I didn't have one handy and was going to opt out of trying to fix this but the owner insisted that I go at it, even after I warned him of the danger. That scratch was bothering him so bad that anything would be better in his mind. So, at it I went.

I started by claying the entire area as claying is the foundation of my shine. Another reason that I clayed the area is because the owner had used some Meguiar's ScratchX on the scratch in an attempt to repair the damage himself and I didn't want anything in that scratch that would affect my repair attempt. The only thing he managed to do was make the paint dull around the scratch. Once the area was clayed, I started with 2000 grit paper. When doing a repair like this where you are NOT going to be painting the car, you have got to know when to stop sanding. You do not necessarily totally remove the scratch. In most cases you won't, especially on clear coat that is as thin as it is on these cars.

After the 2000 grit, I followed it with the 2500 and then 3000 grit papers. Again, you have got to take into consideration that these papers are also going to remove clear coat so if you remove too much with the 2000 grit paper, you've screwed the pooch. That's why a paint thickness gauge is so important. At a body shop where they are going to paint the car anyway, a paint thickness gauge is a waste of time and not necessary. Here's some shots of the sanding process.

Once I completed wet sanding the damage, I broke out my Flex polisher, some Swirl and Haze Remover and a orange pad. After buffing all the damage away with that combination, I followed it with some Fine Machine Polish and a white pad. After that combination, these were the results that I was able to achieve.

So as you can see, I earned my keep and this is probably why the owner was so happy. Now I need to go setup my new gear and hear what it sounds like!

The Junkman

jdenotter · 11-13-2010, 04:10 PM

You the man Junkman. Great work! A well deserved payment too!

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Silver2SSRS6spd · 11-13-2010, 04:16 PM

Gerat job Junkman, that is incredible!

garcmol · 11-13-2010, 04:19 PM

Nice!

lexlueger · 11-13-2010, 04:24 PM

...I'm in awe. The whole time I'm thinking "no way he gets that out"

. Good job!!

Junkman2008 · 11-13-2010, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lexlueger

...I'm in awe. The whole time I'm thinking "no way he gets that out"

. Good job!!

I was thinking the same thing when I first looked at it! Thanks guys!

Uncle Harvey · 11-13-2010, 07:48 PM

Amazing Job. I would have figured this has to be repainted.

Your work making all of those videos has helped so many of us. My car shines like a diamond and a lot of the credit goes to you. Keep up the good work.

Junkman2008 · 11-13-2010, 07:50 PM

Hey Harvey, give yourself a lot of that credit. You did the research and the work!

Blackhawk6 · 11-13-2010, 07:52 PM

Awesome job junkman...

garcmol · 11-13-2010, 07:54 PM

I have to echo thanks on those videos and write-ups. Took the wife to dinner tonight in the Corvette and the streetlights just shimmer on the paint. And that's a lot of hood to polish! No haze, no ugly scratches and swirls. You the man AJ!

GrnMchin · 11-13-2010, 07:54 PM

thank god for thick clear coats... Nice wrk

69307 · 11-13-2010, 08:15 PM

Looks great Junkman!!!

Mark's SS · 11-13-2010, 08:20 PM

Nice work!! It looked like you would never get that scratch out. That looks great.
Thanks for your videos and the information that you provide to members of this forum. I know they have helped me. Now I need to go practice.

Junkman2008 · 11-13-2010, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by garcmol

I have to echo thanks on those videos and write-ups. Took the wife to dinner tonight in the Corvette and the streetlights just shimmer on the paint. And that's a lot of hood to polish! No haze, no ugly scratches and swirls. You the man AJ!

I never realized how big a Corvette hood was until the first time that I clayed one. OMG... that was a workout!

Thanks fellas!

11-13-2010, 03:49 PM	#1
Junkman2008 "Detailing Devil Dog" Drives: 2001 Corvette Coupe Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 2,730	The Junkman Battles Another Keyed Paint Job Hey boys and girls, I had the opportunity to go at another keyed paint job this week. As a lot of you already know, fixing paint is a passion for me and not something I do for money. So when the owner asked me what I wanted in return, I told him nothing but some pictures and food. He decided that was not good enough and bought me this setup: It's the Samsung HT-BD1250 Blu-ray DVD player and 5.1 HD audio with wireless speaker setup. I have to say that this beats Outback Steakhouse since I didn't have anything to go with my new 46" LED wide screen I just bought. I also needed a Blu-ray player as I hadn't bought one yet! On to the repair. This scratch was too deep in places to totally remove but in situations like this, you try and make the damage as least noticeable as possible. At first glance, you would not be able to see the fixed product. That's what you want to achieve with damage like this. Here's the damage and it was not pretty. The scratch went from the front fender to almost the rear quarter. As you can see, this puppy was deep. I was going to have to start with 2000 grit paper for this scratch. This posed two problems. One, I cannot use the PC-7424XP to repair 2000 grit wet sanding damage (it is not powerful enough and would take forever). I would need to use my Flex 3401VRG polisher in this case. Two, this is a new Toyota, which is notorious for having some of the thinnest clear coat on the planet (the same with Nissan's). In a situation like this, you have got to use a paint thickness gauge that measures both base coat AND clear coat. I didn't have one handy and was going to opt out of trying to fix this but the owner insisted that I go at it, even after I warned him of the danger. That scratch was bothering him so bad that anything would be better in his mind. So, at it I went. I started by claying the entire area as claying is the foundation of my shine. Another reason that I clayed the area is because the owner had used some Meguiar's ScratchX on the scratch in an attempt to repair the damage himself and I didn't want anything in that scratch that would affect my repair attempt. The only thing he managed to do was make the paint dull around the scratch. Once the area was clayed, I started with 2000 grit paper. When doing a repair like this where you are NOT going to be painting the car, you have got to know when to stop sanding. You do not necessarily totally remove the scratch. In most cases you won't, especially on clear coat that is as thin as it is on these cars. After the 2000 grit, I followed it with the 2500 and then 3000 grit papers. Again, you have got to take into consideration that these papers are also going to remove clear coat so if you remove too much with the 2000 grit paper, you've screwed the pooch. That's why a paint thickness gauge is so important. At a body shop where they are going to paint the car anyway, a paint thickness gauge is a waste of time and not necessary. Here's some shots of the sanding process. Once I completed wet sanding the damage, I broke out my Flex polisher, some Swirl and Haze Remover and a orange pad. After buffing all the damage away with that combination, I followed it with some Fine Machine Polish and a white pad. After that combination, these were the results that I was able to achieve. So as you can see, I earned my keep and this is probably why the owner was so happy. Now I need to go setup my new gear and hear what it sounds like! The Junkman __________________ "Marines - Making the other guy die for his country for over 200 years." Last edited by Junkman2008; 11-13-2010 at 04:08 PM.

11-13-2010, 04:10 PM	#2
jdenotter Drives: 2010 2SS/RS,M6,Black w/CGM Stripes Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Nashville, NC Posts: 1,777 View My Garage	You the man Junkman. Great work! A well deserved payment too! Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk __________________ 3" RDP Motorsports aggressive cat-back exhaust w/ x-pipe, Vararam CAI, Hurst's short throw shifter, Gary's Customs painted bowties, Ofer's HID DRL/Fog Light wiring harness, Kelvin 8K HID DRL bulbs, ZL1 grille. Johnson's window tint film, LSR lowering springs, Metra dash kit with Pioneer In-Dash DVD head unit.

11-13-2010, 04:16 PM	#3
Silver2SSRS6spd Prefer to be blown! Drives: 2010 Silver/Black 2SS/RS Manual Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Nor-Cal Posts: 2,677 View My Garage	Gerat job Junkman, that is incredible! __________________ MagnaCharger TVS-2300 550rwhp 540 rwt and a radical suspension under the car.

11-13-2010, 04:19 PM	#4
garcmol Drives: 10 1LT SIM; 91 B4C sleeper Z Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Ft. Mitchell, Alabama Posts: 7,198	Nice! __________________ Pedders Pace Car Package, Injen CAI, Flowmaster AT, AAC Lighting, ZL1 fascia/skirts, RKSport Ram Air hood, vented fenders, painted stripes (Gary's Customz), Honor and Valor badged (Thank you, John)

11-13-2010, 04:24 PM	#5
lexlueger Drives: V10 BMW M5, Supercharged 2SS/RS Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Charlotte NC /Brooklyn NY Posts: 2,305	...I'm in awe. The whole time I'm thinking "no way he gets that out" . Good job!! __________________ MAST 416 STROKER: STAGE 3 TVS 2300 CUSTOM CAM TPIS 102 TB IW 8 RIB PULLEY W/ OD COG REARS NX EXPRESS/NANO KIT KDI HEAT EXCHANGER/ROTOFAB RESERVOIR CIRCLE D 2800 TC/FLEX PLATE/ADM TRANS COOLER DSS DRIVESHAFT/1400 HP AXLES EATON TRUETRAC -LPE 3.27 GEARS DYNATECH HEADERS/MAGNAFLOW EXHAUST SQUASH RETURN STYLE FS ID 850's E85/ FLEXFUEL BMR/EIBACH SUSPENSION KILL MODE, ON.

11-13-2010, 07:48 PM	#7
Uncle Harvey Drives: 2011 2SS RS Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Senoia, GA Posts: 237 View My Garage	Amazing Job. I would have figured this has to be repainted. Your work making all of those videos has helped so many of us. My car shines like a diamond and a lot of the credit goes to you. Keep up the good work.

11-13-2010, 07:50 PM	#8
Junkman2008 "Detailing Devil Dog" Drives: 2001 Corvette Coupe Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 2,730	Hey Harvey, give yourself a lot of that credit. You did the research and the work! __________________ "Marines - Making the other guy die for his country for over 200 years."

11-13-2010, 07:52 PM	#9
Blackhawk6 Drives: Born:18 Sept 2009 #47903 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Gloucester Virginia Posts: 1,500 View My Garage	Awesome job junkman... __________________ 2010 Camaro 2SS________________________________________Litho#140

11-13-2010, 07:54 PM	#10
garcmol Drives: 10 1LT SIM; 91 B4C sleeper Z Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Ft. Mitchell, Alabama Posts: 7,198	I have to echo thanks on those videos and write-ups. Took the wife to dinner tonight in the Corvette and the streetlights just shimmer on the paint. And that's a lot of hood to polish! No haze, no ugly scratches and swirls. You the man AJ! __________________ Pedders Pace Car Package, Injen CAI, Flowmaster AT, AAC Lighting, ZL1 fascia/skirts, RKSport Ram Air hood, vented fenders, painted stripes (Gary's Customz), Honor and Valor badged (Thank you, John)

11-13-2010, 07:54 PM	#11
GrnMchin Not easy being Green Drives: 67 Nova SS Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Olympia, WA Posts: 2,256	thank god for thick clear coats... Nice wrk __________________ The 68 Camaro build project

11-13-2010, 08:15 PM	#12
69307 Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Summit White Camaro Join Date: May 2009 Location: So Cal Posts: 175	Looks great Junkman!!!

11-13-2010, 08:20 PM	#13
Mark's SS Drives: 17 Silverado 2500HD LTZ 4x4 Duramax Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Amarillo, TX Posts: 354	Nice work!! It looked like you would never get that scratch out. That looks great. Thanks for your videos and the information that you provide to members of this forum. I know they have helped me. Now I need to go practice.

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