power hungry (cai talk)

[cam fan]

Here in v6-ville we aren't exactly starved for horsepower but i'm sure we can all agree more is better (in this case)

looking over the Jannetty testing results CAI makes the most HP/torque gain from a cold air intake...

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...VE&hl=en#gid=0

DUE TO "adm scoop"

- are these resulting gains relative for our v6? (aka they gained 13hp/9tq...do we?)
- wasn't injen the most powerful cai?
- do we get CAI inc/Vararam cai discounts here?

[nyrfan]

ADM scoop. There are tons of post on this, in fact I just intalled one. Do a seach, you'll find many posts.

Here is some:

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=184696

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=168519

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=184693

[UT-Engineer]

The Vararam intake makes 25-30 hp, per the vendors here. It was released after the Jannetty testing i believe.

[h2oplay]

Originally Posted by UT-Engineer

The Vararam intake makes 25-30 hp, per the vendors here. It was released after the Jannetty testing i believe.

I would have to see actual before and after dyno results to believe that figure...... seems unlikely from any CAI on a V6

[UT-Engineer]

Originally Posted by h2oplay

I would have to see actual before and after dyno results to believe that figure...... seems unlikely from any CAI on a V6

There are some threads here with the dynos. Its impressive actually.

EDIT: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...m+dyno+results

[cam fan]

so what was the official vr hp/tq gains? (didnt see a distinct claim)

[UT-Engineer]

Originally Posted by cam fan

so what was the official vr hp/tq gains? (didnt see a distinct claim)

From what ive seen, several members have gained 20hp/20tq solid over stock. That was at a minimum. As vendors and VR claims, results have been as high as 25HP/TQ. I asked a vendor on here last week if this was at the wheels or crank. He stated wheels. Which would make sense since the dyno results are HP/TQ numbers at the wheels. You'll pay more for the VR but get more IMO.

[bmorecam]

I don't know if I would believe as far as 30+ hp but there is definitely a boost in power at high speed pass 80mph. When ram air is effective there are a few key things that need to be incorporated. The time it take the air to travel from outside to the cylinders and a straight path, vararam has both in the design which also has its advantages over the others on the market.

[cam fan]

isn't there less air going to VR relative to the race scoop?

look at this package!
http://autoagenda.com/2010-camaro-v6...-scoop-package

so....with respect to the initial goal of this post VR wins(?)

haha i've gone from injen faithful, to CAI inc/ADM scoop die-hard to VR fanboy in less than an hour :/

[Aequitas & Veritas]

I went with the Injen long tube since at the time it had better numbers and Scrming did an air temp/pressure test and the injen cools down faster and such. Just food for thought.

[JDP Tech]

Not sure about the Vararam, but utilizing the stock intake scoop, we tested a bone stock auto V6 car before and after an Airaid Intake System install, same day, car stayed strapped down to the dyno, no heat soak before or after, so there was no fooling with numbers. The intake gained 12hp and 7tq. So compared to his data sheet the V6 model had a large gain over his tests.

[UT-Engineer]

Like any other performance part there are pros and cons vs other products. Some CAIs will perform slightly better than others, some visually look better than others, but they will come at a cost. Injen, Airaid, CAI, VR, & Roto-fab are all great intakes. Just a matter of how much u want to spend.

Also, the HP/TQ gains seen are usually "peak" hp gains. And this is usually at higher RPMS under WOT. I personally would go with an intake that had larger HP/TQ gains over stock in the mid RPM range, since this is where you will usually be under acceleration (even for normal driving). I mean, how often do you really hit 6000+ RPMS?

[cam fan]

Originally Posted by UT-Engineer

Like any other performance part there are pros and cons vs other products. Some CAIs will perform slightly better than others, some visually look better than others, but they will come at a cost. Injen, Airaid, CAI, VR, & Roto-fab are all great intakes. Just a matter of how much u want to spend.

Also, the HP/TQ gains seen are usually "peak" hp gains. And this is usually at higher RPMS under WOT. I personally would go with an intake that had larger HP/TQ gains over stock in the mid RPM range, since this is where you will usually be under acceleration (even for normal driving). I mean, how often do you really hit 6000+ RPMS?

verrrry true! and good point...so which of the intakes takes the mid-range cake?

what is WOT?

check this out
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=184937
post #18

Originally Posted by sschevybear11

Maybe some gain by leaning the system at first but very little if any after computer relearns. There is not that much gain folks. I really liked the vararam,seems to improve throttle response and pull harder but WOT wasn't as good. The track confirmed it. Its for looks, choose the pretty one or get a real gain with a scoop, washer bottle relocate and modify the stocker to accept the air.

[nyrfan]

Originally Posted by cam fan

verrrry true! and good point...so which of the intakes takes the mid-range cake?

what is WOT?

check this out
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=184937
post #18

WOT = Wide Open Trottle.

I love my CAI, CAI with ADM scoop and Roto-Fab washer relocator. All 3, along with a ported TB made a hugh difference in my V6's preformance and trottle response.