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Old 05-16-2012, 10:30 AM   #1
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"BBK Horsepower Challenge": 11 5.0 Mustang vs 5th Gen Camaro SS

Did a search, didn't see this posted anywhere ...

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Old 05-16-2012, 11:42 AM   #2
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Interesting that the GT was 370whp stock and the Camaro was 357whp stock. She says that the Camaro "puts out 426hp stock" so I'm assuming it's an LS3. That would be 16% drivetrain loss on the Camaro, and only 10% loss on the Mustang. I still don't understand why Ford doesn't just go ahead and say "Mustang GT with 445 hp!". I mean, wouldn't they get more sales that way?

Congrats to Ford sandbagging on the 5.0?

Anyway, I was surprised to see that the cars came out so close in the end with the same mods. 5whp difference is pretty narrow.
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Old 05-16-2012, 12:26 PM   #3
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I always figured the 2 cars were virtually identical to each other in acceleration. The extra torque of the SS must help it out a lot.

But isn't the whp loss of the Camaro attributable to it's IRS?

Not sure the 5.0 is really "sandbagging" ...
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For the Camaro a 95mm throttle body???

Edit - I just Google'd it and it looks like BBK has it as soon to be released...
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Old 05-16-2012, 04:29 PM   #5
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Interesting that the GT was 370whp stock and the Camaro was 357whp stock. She says that the Camaro "puts out 426hp stock" so I'm assuming it's an LS3. That would be 16% drivetrain loss on the Camaro, and only 10% loss on the Mustang. I still don't understand why Ford doesn't just go ahead and say "Mustang GT with 445 hp!". I mean, wouldn't they get more sales that way?

Congrats to Ford sandbagging on the 5.0?

Anyway, I was surprised to see that the cars came out so close in the end with the same mods. 5whp difference is pretty narrow.

I've seen 358 rwhp on the 5.0 as well. All dyno's aren't equal. I don't know what the "average" rwhp. But 370 sounds high.

As far as sandbagging... Um 98-02 Fbody much? I owned a 2002 TA WS6 so I can safely say it was underrated. That car was awesome. Heck who am I kidding all these cars we are talking about are pretty awesome
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Old 05-16-2012, 05:42 PM   #6
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I always figured the 2 cars were virtually identical to each other in acceleration. The extra torque of the SS must help it out a lot.

But isn't the whp loss of the Camaro attributable to it's IRS?

Not sure the 5.0 is really "sandbagging" ...
Yep, it's the IRS. It saps more power than the SRA. That, and the weight difference are the main reasons the GT has the edge over the SS in 0-60 and 1/4 mile. Nobody's sandbagging.
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You did notice which one she chose to drive at tha start and complement right? Camaro wins
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Is that why so many women drive mustangs?
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Yep, it's the IRS. It saps more power than the SRA. That, and the weight difference are the main reasons the GT has the edge over the SS in 0-60 and 1/4 mile. Nobody's sandbagging.
I think the extra bit of torque the SS carries with the 6.2 makes it a pretty even race.
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So clearly the Camaro made more gains...44hp total, while the Mustang made 36hp total....doesn't that make it the winner?
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for sure the reason for the difference is the IRS... with the HP ratings these days you can almost guarantee that are putting out the rated HP. the live axel on the GT is just more efficient.
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So clearly the Camaro made more gains...44hp total, while the Mustang made 36hp total....doesn't that make it the winner?
Yes it does but have you ever seen a Camaro vs. Mustang comparison anywhere where the Camaro wins, even when the Camaro wins? And I don't mean by people here on Camaro5, I mean like MoterTrend and such.
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