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Gagootz78 · 05-17-2012, 02:41 PM

My goal is 700 wheel with a ECS kit or a 2.9 Whipple. how much do you guys trust the Alky kits? Has anybody have one fail under boost? Or is it worth going with a fuel set up to make that power on pump gas without Alky?

CyberPredator · 05-17-2012, 02:48 PM

I don't have the Alky one specifically. I hear it's great though. I have the Snow Performance one and my pump failed after only having it for 3 months and then they said they wouldn't cover it because I didn't still have the invoice/receipt. Luckily the engine was saved by safe injection box and a lingenfelter lnc-002

Gagootz78 · 05-17-2012, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberPredator

I don't have the Alky one specifically. I hear it's great though. I have the Snow Performance one and my pump failed after only having it for 3 months and then they said they wouldn't cover it because I didn't still have the invoice/receipt. Luckily the engine was saved by safe injection box and a lingenfelter lnc-002

So these systems come with a safety feature just incase they do fail?

CyberPredator · 05-17-2012, 03:01 PM

the snow performance you have to buy the safe injection (it didn't come with the kit, atleast the one I bought) and I bought a lnc 002 which is a timing box. set to retard timing 5 degrees. you notice a huge drop in power and there is an orange warning light, which the warning light is from the safe injection.

CyberPredator · 05-17-2012, 03:02 PM

My personal experience wasn't to positive and if i could go back and do it again I would have spent that money on a cam. But I may just be bitter...lol

Sack Rat 2SS · 05-17-2012, 04:44 PM

I am quite sure at the power level you are shooting for that Meth is not needed. Heck, LPE and ADM Perf build up to 1000 without it. Why be tethered to meth if you do not need it. I am at 654 rwhp, 93 octane pump gas, without it now. I do not want any bandaids on my motor. However many guys love it and feel it is necessary. Just my 2 cents.

JDP Motorsports · 05-17-2012, 06:56 PM

It can be a great thing and installing a IAT sensor behind the nozzle is a great way to keep everything in good running order should the meth fail. You basically use the IAT table and if it fails it pulls a bunch of timing. It keeps the engine clean, increases the octane level and cools the charge. The ECS/Alky kit is nice. We have a few A6 Camaros making 650+ RWHP with the ECS kit without meth and we're about to build one with so we'll see where we end up. They both have our Stage 2 Cam package with stock heads and intake manifold.

653.68 RWHP and 595.91 RWTQ on 91 octane**

Please feel free to call, email or PM me anytime with questions.

Kind regards,

Jordan Priestley
888.308.6007

sspaul · 05-17-2012, 09:14 PM

i'm at 720 rwhp and no meth

VADER SS L99 · 05-17-2012, 09:38 PM

I know I would for sure not tune for the meth. Have the tune made for no meth and just use the meth for the "justincase" scenarios. If the meth fails its no big deal because your tune wont be reling on it.

realcanuk · 05-18-2012, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by VADER SS L99

I know I would for sure not tune for the meth. Have the tune made for no meth and just use the meth for the "justincase" scenarios. If the meth fails its no big deal because your tune wont be reling on it.

I agree. The meth is great for cooling the intake air and a little octane boost if you get some crappy gas. There is really no downside that I've experienced. The Ally Control kit is top quality and I wouldn't go with any other personally.

Lethal Racing · 05-20-2012, 01:37 PM

We have installed a lot of Alky kits with no problems. They are a top notch kit.

Gagootz78 · 05-20-2012, 02:16 PM

Thanks guy! I was also looking at the price of the alky kits and really for another 600 I can upgrade the whole fuel system and make 700 wheel on pump gas which guys are doing.

HufferSS · 05-20-2012, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Gagootz78

Thanks guy! I was also looking at the price of the alky kits and really for another 600 I can upgrade the whole fuel system and make 700 wheel on pump gas which guys are doing.

The volume of fuel isnt the issue as much as octane is.

Whipped416 · 05-20-2012, 03:24 PM

i bought the alky kit with 3ga tunk mount setup! it is being installed right now. will provide some feedback once i get it all together.

05-17-2012, 02:41 PM	#1
Gagootz78 Drives: 2010 2SS Camaro Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Boynton beach, FL Posts: 114	How much do you guys trust the Alky kits under boost?? My goal is 700 wheel with a ECS kit or a 2.9 Whipple. how much do you guys trust the Alky kits? Has anybody have one fail under boost? Or is it worth going with a fuel set up to make that power on pump gas without Alky?

05-17-2012, 02:48 PM	#2
CyberPredator 50 Shades of Prey Drives: TT/SS Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Between 10 and 20 PSI Posts: 777	I don't have the Alky one specifically. I hear it's great though. I have the Snow Performance one and my pump failed after only having it for 3 months and then they said they wouldn't cover it because I didn't still have the invoice/receipt. Luckily the engine was saved by safe injection box and a lingenfelter lnc-002 __________________ Futral Motorsports built and tuned

05-17-2012, 03:01 PM	#4
CyberPredator 50 Shades of Prey Drives: TT/SS Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Between 10 and 20 PSI Posts: 777	the snow performance you have to buy the safe injection (it didn't come with the kit, atleast the one I bought) and I bought a lnc 002 which is a timing box. set to retard timing 5 degrees. you notice a huge drop in power and there is an orange warning light, which the warning light is from the safe injection. __________________ Futral Motorsports built and tuned

05-17-2012, 03:02 PM	#5
CyberPredator 50 Shades of Prey Drives: TT/SS Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Between 10 and 20 PSI Posts: 777	My personal experience wasn't to positive and if i could go back and do it again I would have spent that money on a cam. But I may just be bitter...lol __________________ Futral Motorsports built and tuned

05-17-2012, 04:44 PM	#6
Sack Rat 2SS Drives: Silver SS/RS, Man 6 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: DFW area, Texas Posts: 884	I am quite sure at the power level you are shooting for that Meth is not needed. Heck, LPE and ADM Perf build up to 1000 without it. Why be tethered to meth if you do not need it. I am at 654 rwhp, 93 octane pump gas, without it now. I do not want any bandaids on my motor. However many guys love it and feel it is necessary. Just my 2 cents. __________________ Silver 2SS/RS Man/6 CTS-V front 6-Piston Calipers, GM 3.91 Rear Gears

05-17-2012, 06:56 PM	#7
JDP Motorsports Drives: 2011 Camaro SS/ 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Sandy, Utah Posts: 3,256	It can be a great thing and installing a IAT sensor behind the nozzle is a great way to keep everything in good running order should the meth fail. You basically use the IAT table and if it fails it pulls a bunch of timing. It keeps the engine clean, increases the octane level and cools the charge. The ECS/Alky kit is nice. We have a few A6 Camaros making 650+ RWHP with the ECS kit without meth and we're about to build one with so we'll see where we end up. They both have our Stage 2 Cam package with stock heads and intake manifold. 653.68 RWHP and 595.91 RWTQ on 91 octane** Please feel free to call, email or PM me anytime with questions. Kind regards, Jordan Priestley 888.308.6007

05-17-2012, 09:14 PM	#8
sspaul Drives: 2010 ss camaro, imperial blue Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: new orleans Posts: 939	i'm at 720 rwhp and no meth __________________ my youtube my facebook www.myspace.com/1djchampagne www.twitter.com/1djchampagne mods: borla long tube headers, borla atak catback, lingenfelter gt-9 cam, ported heads, ecs base kit running 11 psi on top end, 1" bmr drop spring, aam 3.70 gears, ported throttle body, 160* thermorstat, lethal racing tune 750/641 rwhp/rwtq

05-17-2012, 09:38 PM	#9
VADER SS L99 Drives: 2013 A6 GT 5.0 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 2,909	I know I would for sure not tune for the meth. Have the tune made for no meth and just use the meth for the "justincase" scenarios. If the meth fails its no big deal because your tune wont be reling on it. __________________ BLK/BLK 1SS/RS Ordered 11-01-2009 Took delivery 12-22-2009. Heads/cam/converter/bolt ons. SOLD Feb 2015 to fund 6th gen LT1 SS with 8L90E.

05-20-2012, 01:37 PM	#11
Lethal Racing Drives: LSx Performance Specialist Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Lafayette, LA Posts: 517	We have installed a lot of Alky kits with no problems. They are a top notch kit.

05-20-2012, 02:16 PM	#12
Gagootz78 Drives: 2010 2SS Camaro Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Boynton beach, FL Posts: 114	Thanks guy! I was also looking at the price of the alky kits and really for another 600 I can upgrade the whole fuel system and make 700 wheel on pump gas which guys are doing.

05-20-2012, 03:24 PM	#14
Whipped416 Drives: 2010 CAMARO SS Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 1,515 View My Garage	i bought the alky kit with 3ga tunk mount setup! it is being installed right now. will provide some feedback once i get it all together.