Hotchkis Track Pack VS. Race Pack Stage 3 - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

47AJV8 · 12-23-2012, 07:42 PM

I was wondering if anyone with experience had something to say about either of these two options? The Race pack is about $600 more and I'm wondering whether it would be worth it or not, and since it is all done on stock shocks, would ride quality remain relatively intact? Thanks.

2SS45th · 12-23-2012, 08:23 PM

I don't have experience with that kit, but lowering springs will make the ride quality worse for sure.

47AJV8 · 12-23-2012, 09:43 PM

Ya I'm not too concerned about that, more interested in what you get for the extra money, from what I've read the track pack is really good, so it makes me wonder what the race one is like!

urr2slo · 12-24-2012, 08:44 PM

Im running the race pack under both of mine, love it, great ride and awesome handling.

bajamoon · 12-24-2012, 10:20 PM

The race pack comes with the strut brace and the front and rear endlinks. You would want the race pack or at least the endlinks. What year is the camaro?

47AJV8 · 12-31-2012, 04:14 PM

Thanks for the info, 2010 SS

Norm Peterson · 01-02-2013, 09:29 AM

I would strongly recommend upgrading the shocks and struts with either kit - it looks more like the shocks/struts simply aren't offered rather than the stock shocks really being verified as appropriate for the increased stiffnesses. Stiffer springing wants firmer rebound damping if you want to stay in the same place with respect to best tire grip as a function of that damping. Otherwise, you're throwing away some of what you presumably bought the kit for and moving in the direction away from 'best grip' toward 'best ride'.

Near as I can tell, the front springs are about 40% stiffer than stock (fairly common for aftermarket springs other than coilover springs) and the rear springs about 15% stiffer.

The bars are considerably stiffer than stock, and bar rate adds to the spring rate under either cornering or one wheel bump situations.

Norm

Fast6.3 · 01-02-2013, 08:05 PM

[QUOTE=Norm Peterson;5982005]I would strongly recommend upgrading the shocks and struts with either kit - it looks more like the shocks/struts simply aren't offered rather than the stock shocks really being verified as appropriate for the increased stiffnesses. Stiffer springing wants firmer rebound damping if you want to stay in the same place with respect to best tire grip as a function of that damping. Otherwise, you're throwing away some of what you presumably bought the kit for and moving in the direction away from 'best grip' toward 'best ride'.

Near as I can tell, the front springs are about 40% stiffer than stock (fairly common for aftermarket springs other than coilover springs) and the rear springs about 15% stiffer.

The bars are considerably stiffer than stock, and bar rate adds to the spring rate under either cornering or one wheel bump situations.

A great solution would be to add 1le shocks to that package

12-23-2012, 07:42 PM	#1
47AJV8 Drives: A White Car Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 342	Hotchkis Track Pack VS. Race Pack Stage 3 I was wondering if anyone with experience had something to say about either of these two options? The Race pack is about $600 more and I'm wondering whether it would be worth it or not, and since it is all done on stock shocks, would ride quality remain relatively intact? Thanks. __________________ "From ABS shudder that came on surprisingly early in the lousy brake pedal's travel to a looser rear end than Kim Kardashian"

12-23-2012, 08:23 PM	#2
2SS45th Drives: 11 Seconds or Faster Join Date: May 2012 Location: Arvada, Colorado Posts: 2,797 View My Garage	I don't have experience with that kit, but lowering springs will make the ride quality worse for sure. __________________ I Ain't About That Stock Life.

12-23-2012, 09:43 PM	#3
47AJV8 Drives: A White Car Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 342	Ya I'm not too concerned about that, more interested in what you get for the extra money, from what I've read the track pack is really good, so it makes me wonder what the race one is like! __________________ "From ABS shudder that came on surprisingly early in the lousy brake pedal's travel to a looser rear end than Kim Kardashian"

12-24-2012, 08:44 PM	#4
urr2slo Drives: 2010 2ss ss/rs abm, 2016 2ss/rs hbm Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: N. Phx, Az Posts: 1,332	Im running the race pack under both of mine, love it, great ride and awesome handling. __________________ URR2SLO - If you're not going fast enough, get out the way......

12-24-2012, 10:20 PM	#5
bajamoon Drives: 2014 Subaru WRX Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Whittier CA Posts: 13,730 View My Garage	The race pack comes with the strut brace and the front and rear endlinks. You would want the race pack or at least the endlinks. What year is the camaro? __________________ My Build Thread http://camaro5.com/forums/showthread...=1#post5036900 Maureen@Rodgers Chevrolet...The best prices and customer service period!!(734)676-9600 Gen5Diy.com.....http://www.gen5diy.com/ Wretched Motorsports..www.wretchedms.com/ Pedders USA...http://www.peddersusa.com/

12-31-2012, 04:14 PM	#6
47AJV8 Drives: A White Car Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 342	Thanks for the info, 2010 SS __________________ "From ABS shudder that came on surprisingly early in the lousy brake pedal's travel to a looser rear end than Kim Kardashian"

01-02-2013, 09:29 AM	#7
Norm Peterson corner barstool sitter Drives: 08 Mustang GT, 19 WRX Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Eastern Time Zone Posts: 6,990	I would strongly recommend upgrading the shocks and struts with either kit - it looks more like the shocks/struts simply aren't offered rather than the stock shocks really being verified as appropriate for the increased stiffnesses. Stiffer springing wants firmer rebound damping if you want to stay in the same place with respect to best tire grip as a function of that damping. Otherwise, you're throwing away some of what you presumably bought the kit for and moving in the direction away from 'best grip' toward 'best ride'. Near as I can tell, the front springs are about 40% stiffer than stock (fairly common for aftermarket springs other than coilover springs) and the rear springs about 15% stiffer. The bars are considerably stiffer than stock, and bar rate adds to the spring rate under either cornering or one wheel bump situations. Norm

01-02-2013, 08:05 PM	#8
Fast6.3 Drives: 2016 2SS coupe 2015 3LT Stingray Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: El paso texas Posts: 880 View My Garage	[QUOTE=Norm Peterson;5982005]I would strongly recommend upgrading the shocks and struts with either kit - it looks more like the shocks/struts simply aren't offered rather than the stock shocks really being verified as appropriate for the increased stiffnesses. Stiffer springing wants firmer rebound damping if you want to stay in the same place with respect to best tire grip as a function of that damping. Otherwise, you're throwing away some of what you presumably bought the kit for and moving in the direction away from 'best grip' toward 'best ride'. Near as I can tell, the front springs are about 40% stiffer than stock (fairly common for aftermarket springs other than coilover springs) and the rear springs about 15% stiffer. The bars are considerably stiffer than stock, and bar rate adds to the spring rate under either cornering or one wheel bump situations. A great solution would be to add 1le shocks to that package __________________ Ported intake manifold and throttle body kooks 2" headers no cats