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Ir0nM4n · 02-09-2014, 09:20 PM

When tracking the car would you remove the underside of the insert for better air flow??? Since I think the only reason it is there is to redirect rain water.

Green Machine · 02-09-2014, 09:28 PM

I could probably take mine off permanently since it probably won't see rain to much lol. Unless I'm caught in rain traveling to some Camaro shows over the summer.

I'd like to know what others think about the better air flow too.

karnov · 02-09-2014, 09:38 PM

I took mine off a couple weeks after I got it and haven't put it back on. The only reason it's there is for water diversion.

The only reason I see for leaving it on is if you don't garage it or have to park it somewhere where it might get rained on.

AG1LE · 02-09-2014, 09:40 PM

Electrical connections in the engine bay are waterproof, right? What is the real risk of leaving it off, even if it does rain?

Green Machine · 02-09-2014, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by karnov

I took mine off a couple weeks after I got it and haven't put it back on. The only reason it's there is for water diversion

Looks like that may be the first thing I do when I uncover the car lol.

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Originally Posted by JMWNERW

Electrical connections in the engine bay are waterproof, right? What is the real risk of leaving it off, even if it does rain?

Get the engine dirty? Cold/cooler water on a hot engine?

Nutro · 02-09-2014, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Green Machine

Looks like that may be the first thing I do when I uncover the car lol.

Get the engine dirty? Cold/cooler water on a hot engine?

Maybe if it's parked. I don't run the drain and have driven in some pretty hefty rainfall and it barely got a few drops on the motor or blower.

Ir0nM4n · 02-10-2014, 01:09 AM

Where I live it rains or drizzles this time of year. I notice at speed that the vent on the hood helps engine temps with the cover on. I am thinking with it off that must be a rather large boost of air through the engine bay.
I guess one way to find out is to just do it. This will happen once the sun is out. I guess this is not just for 1LE's as the 2014 SS has the same set up... Curious if the Z/28 will even have the deflector installed.

karnov · 02-10-2014, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ir0nM4n

Where I live it rains or drizzles this time of year. I notice at speed that the vent on the hood helps engine temps with the cover on. I am thinking with it off that must be a rather large boost of air through the engine bay.
I guess one way to find out is to just do it. This will happen once the sun is out. I guess this is not just for 1LE's as the 2014 SS has the same set up... Curious if the Z/28 will even have the deflector installed.

The Z/28 does not have it, in fact I believe the Z/28 only has a partial part of the hood liner. The purpose of the vent on the 2014 hood is additional downforce. With the cover off the air moved more freely so I am assuming you get more downforce with it off as opposed to having it on?

I am guessing this is why the Z/28 doesn't have it, so it can have the added downforce.

Billy10mm · 02-10-2014, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by karnov

The Z/28 does not have it, in fact I believe the Z/28 only has a partial part of the hood liner. The purpose of the vent on the 2014 hood is additional downforce. With the cover off the air moved more freely so I am assuming you get more downforce with it off as opposed to having it on?

I am guessing this is why the Z/28 doesn't have it, so it can have the added downforce.

The Z/28 absolutely has the hood vent:

And it's more about lift than downforce. Without the vent, underhood air pressure lifts the front end. By providing a way for that pressure to exit, the front of the car lifts less. By adding the giant front splitter, it then produces (some) downforce.

AG1LE · 02-10-2014, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ir0nM4n

I guess this is not just for 1LE's as the 2014 SS has the same set up...

The 1LE is an SS

I agree with a previous post, its more about reducing up force than providing down force.

Anyone know why it would be "bad" to leave the tray off always (other than engine bay getting dirty?)?

Billy10mm · 02-10-2014, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JMWNERW

The 1LE is an SS

I agree with a previous post, its more about reducing up force than providing down force.

Anyone know why it would be "bad" to leave the tray off always (other than engine bay getting dirty?)?

No real reason it would be bad except for the mess, but why? The opening provided is enough to relieve the underhood pressure. Remember, this isn't about large volumes of air, we aren't talking about feeding the radiator here. This is just a small opening that allows air pressure a place to escape to.

AG1LE · 02-10-2014, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Billy10mm

No real reason it would be bad except for the mess, but why? The opening provided is enough to relieve the underhood pressure. Remember, this isn't about large volumes of air, we aren't talking about feeding the radiator here. This is just a small opening that allows air pressure a place to escape to.

Maybe it is "enough"

I don't know...but I can see how removing the tray would draw a lot more heat out of the engine bay, and reduce the up force even more.

All of this probably only matters on the track, and the tray is easy to remove for track day, and put back on after.

AGM 1LE · 02-11-2014, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Billy10mm

The Z/28 absolutely has the hood vent:

And it's more about lift than downforce. Without the vent, underhood air pressure lifts the front end. By providing a way for that pressure to exit, the front of the car lifts less. By adding the giant front splitter, it then produces (some) downforce.

It has the vent but not the water drip tray like on an SS. thats what he was referring to, not that it dosent have the vent.

karnov · 02-11-2014, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by AGM 1LE

It has the vent but not the water drip tray like on an SS. thats what he was referring to, not that it dosent have the vent.

Yes, exactly what I was referring to, thanks.

02-09-2014, 09:20 PM	#1
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02-10-2014, 01:09 AM	#7
Ir0nM4n Love me some Tacos Drives: 14 1LE Join Date: May 2011 Location: Washington Posts: 2,728 View My Garage	Where I live it rains or drizzles this time of year. I notice at speed that the vent on the hood helps engine temps with the cover on. I am thinking with it off that must be a rather large boost of air through the engine bay. I guess one way to find out is to just do it. This will happen once the sun is out. I guess this is not just for 1LE's as the 2014 SS has the same set up... Curious if the Z/28 will even have the deflector installed. __________________

02-09-2014, 09:38 PM	#3
karnov Drives: 2014 Camaro 1SS 1LE Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Arizona Posts: 91	I took mine off a couple weeks after I got it and haven't put it back on. The only reason it's there is for water diversion. The only reason I see for leaving it on is if you don't garage it or have to park it somewhere where it might get rained on.

02-09-2014, 09:40 PM	#4
AG1LE Drives: '14 1LE Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: NJ Posts: 2,438	Electrical connections in the engine bay are waterproof, right? What is the real risk of leaving it off, even if it does rain?