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frack · 09-07-2015, 04:28 PM

I am really close to pulling trigger on a cam install. Of course I will need to get a dod/afm delete kit. Just can't decide if I want to do a full LS3 conversion or retain the VVT I have narrowed down to a Night Fury from Lethal or a SS3 from GPI. Does lethal make a Night Fury VVT cam? I will also be putting in a Circle D 3600 stall. I already have TSP headers, CAI, Vitesse and remote tune. For now, I will keep stock gears and heads. Please chime in and help me decide.

CTSVBiggie · 09-07-2015, 04:35 PM

IMO. Hit up Pat G. I plan on asking him his opinion of the night fury and maybe spec through him.

He is VERY good at taking your needs/wants/expectation and giving you a cam that fits.

xXSicSicSicXx · 09-07-2015, 05:04 PM

vvt is better... why drop it? wish ls3 had vvt

sales@510raceengineering · 09-07-2015, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CTSVBiggie

IMO. Hit up Pat G. I plan on asking him his opinion of the night fury and maybe spec through him.

He is VERY good at taking your needs/wants/expectation and giving you a cam that fits.

Listen to this guy! Pat G has spec'd over 100 camshafts for me and I have never had a customer complain about power or drivability. His new Lobe Profiles through Cam Motion offer a very smooth, quiet, and stable valvetrain.

LSX Camaro · 09-07-2015, 07:02 PM

Another vote for a custom Pat G. spec cam.

bionick · 09-07-2015, 07:40 PM

I have read that VVT cam for the l99 has a lot of benefits these days and a lot of people these days are saying stick with it. As others have said, hit up pat g. I was gonna go Nightfury or kaotic and decided to go with pat g. Great cam. Guess it would be considered a "stage 3" cam but it drives great

Josh @ Spartan LSX · 09-07-2015, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by xXSicSicSicXx

vvt is better... why drop it? wish ls3 had vvt

Not always. We have swapped out some of our LS3 "style" camshafts and gone back to some VVT stuff at the request of our customers and the cars didn't go any faster. There are some impressive VVT setups out there but it isn't the end-all of performance for the 5th Gen like the forums will have you believe.

Lots of great choices out there. I personally recommend with sticking with something that generates torque. 5th Gens are heavy pigs and need torque to get them moving. I've tuned a lot of the bigger "flavor of the month" camshafts and the cars always feel soggy on the bottom end vs. something that's designed to build cylinder pressure & torque at low rpm.

SSeniorMoment · 09-08-2015, 12:21 AM

I spoke with Kip at Cam Motion and he supplied what I needed at a very competitive price, a knowledgeable gentleman and great company to do business with.

EnzoR · 09-08-2015, 04:51 PM

NIGHT FURY! Get it and you will be glad you did.

62nalide · 09-08-2015, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh @ Spartan LSX

Not always. We have swapped out some of our LS3 "style" camshafts and gone back to some VVT stuff at the request of our customers and the cars didn't go any faster. There are some impressive VVT setups out there but it isn't the end-all of performance for the 5th Gen like the forums will have you believe.

Lots of great choices out there. I personally recommend with sticking with something that generates torque. 5th Gens are heavy pigs and need torque to get them moving. I've tuned a lot of the bigger "flavor of the month" camshafts and the cars always feel soggy on the bottom end vs. something that's designed to build cylinder pressure & torque at low rpm.

That's odd, I've had 3 cars convert back to VVT every single one gained more TQ and ran faster by 5-8mph and .50 faster then any big boy LS3 conversion. Hell a member had H/C LS-3 conversation and dropped .60 by going VVT.
I would like to see LS3 conversion 5th gens break into the 10s N/A on a hydraulic cam. Maybe one day.

Punisher_ATX · 09-08-2015, 05:33 PM

I wish i could convert my ls3 car to VVT sometimes. LOL

wyo1LE · 09-08-2015, 09:51 PM

How come nobody ever talks about the BTR stage 4? Just because of comp?

frack · 09-12-2015, 03:29 PM

Well, looks like I will go with the SS3 VVT from GPI. Ryan has been patiently answering any of my questions. Just need to decide what converter. I know it will be Circle D. Just trying to decide if I want to go with a 3200 or 3600 stall. I have had both kind in previous cars. Leaning toward a 3600, but just not sure yet.

Avenging Orange · 09-12-2015, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by wyo1LE

How come nobody ever talks about the BTR stage 4? Just because of comp?

Because a lot of people out there play follow the leader.

09-07-2015, 04:28 PM	#1
frack Drives: 2010 Inferno Orange SS Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: United States Posts: 120 View My Garage	Really need help deciding cam. I am really close to pulling trigger on a cam install. Of course I will need to get a dod/afm delete kit. Just can't decide if I want to do a full LS3 conversion or retain the VVT I have narrowed down to a Night Fury from Lethal or a SS3 from GPI. Does lethal make a Night Fury VVT cam? I will also be putting in a Circle D 3600 stall. I already have TSP headers, CAI, Vitesse and remote tune. For now, I will keep stock gears and heads. Please chime in and help me decide.
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09-07-2015, 04:35 PM	#2
CTSVBiggie Drives: 2013 1LE Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: maryland Posts: 800	IMO. Hit up Pat G. I plan on asking him his opinion of the night fury and maybe spec through him. He is VERY good at taking your needs/wants/expectation and giving you a cam that fits. __________________ >>>>>>>>>>>MUST READ DISCLAIMER<<<<<<<<<<<< 2013 Crystal Red Tint Coat - 2SS RS 1LE

09-07-2015, 07:02 PM	#5
LSX Camaro Master ASE, GM, LSX Tech. Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,034	Another vote for a custom Pat G. spec cam. __________________ 2010 2SSRS A6, Custom Pat G. Cam, WCCH Cylinder Heads, Kooks Headers/Exhaust, BTR Valvetrain, Fluidampr 25% UDP, All Engine ARP bolts, Flex-a-lite radiator/Trans cooler, Yank converter, PFADT Suspension, ADM Race Intake/Scoop, Torq tow hook, CFD auto shifter, Dynojet AFR gauge, Aeroforce scan gauge, Brake Performance rotors/pads Prothane bushings, ZL1 wheels, spoiler, Z/28 wickerbill, 1LE Aero/Suspension Package, Anderson Composites COPO Carbon Fiber Hood, LED lighting, Elite Catch Can, Improved Racing oil pan baffle, crank scraper, windage tray 480 RWHP 452 RWTQ + Nitrous Express 150 Shot

09-07-2015, 07:40 PM	#6
bionick Drives: 2010 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 931 View My Garage	I have read that VVT cam for the l99 has a lot of benefits these days and a lot of people these days are saying stick with it. As others have said, hit up pat g. I was gonna go Nightfury or kaotic and decided to go with pat g. Great cam. Guess it would be considered a "stage 3" cam but it drives great __________________ 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS \| 416 LS3 \| FED stage 2 heads

09-12-2015, 03:29 PM	#13
frack Drives: 2010 Inferno Orange SS Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: United States Posts: 120 View My Garage	Well, looks like I will go with the SS3 VVT from GPI. Ryan has been patiently answering any of my questions. Just need to decide what converter. I know it will be Circle D. Just trying to decide if I want to go with a 3200 or 3600 stall. I have had both kind in previous cars. Leaning toward a 3600, but just not sure yet.
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09-07-2015, 05:04 PM	#3
xXSicSicSicXx Drives: 14 1LE Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: 'merica Posts: 261	vvt is better... why drop it? wish ls3 had vvt

09-08-2015, 12:21 AM	#8
SSeniorMoment Drives: 2010 2SS/RS LS3 A6 IOM Join Date: May 2013 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,192	I spoke with Kip at Cam Motion and he supplied what I needed at a very competitive price, a knowledgeable gentleman and great company to do business with.

09-08-2015, 04:51 PM	#9
EnzoR Drives: 2012 1SS6M Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: 38°37′38″N 90°11′52″W Posts: 113	NIGHT FURY! Get it and you will be glad you did.

09-08-2015, 05:33 PM	#11
Punisher_ATX Drives: 2010 SS Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Austin Posts: 439	I wish i could convert my ls3 car to VVT sometimes. LOL

09-08-2015, 09:51 PM	#12
wyo1LE Drives: 2013 SS RS 1LE Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Wyoming Posts: 14	How come nobody ever talks about the BTR stage 4? Just because of comp?